https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmTfK6_aM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMED7GERpeQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTvudepf1k4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryIjCkw3Jfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFibI_1ZPV4

you know what they say about first impressions, you only get to make them once.

i'll be actively avoiding this guys music for the rest of my life.

besides the scooby doo one. ugh.

>besides the scooby doo one. ugh.

(btw... Killer Mike's El-P related output poo poos over ALLADAT. continue to sleep)

>(btw... Killer Mike's El-P related output poo poos over
>ALLADAT. continue to sleep)

i will, thanks.

>i'll be actively avoiding this guys music for the rest of my
>life.

So you're willfully checking out on good music because you think he once made bad music? You're entitled, but I think that's a dumb way to approach things. Dude has been an integral part of four of the best hip hop albums of the last five years and I'd still own them even if he was a former member of Right Said Fred.

it's just interesting how first impressions can sour people to your music.

or conversely, get you an unlimited amount of "get out of jail free" cards.

i mean, look at nas' career.

If you don't want to listen, don't listen, but what's the motivation to tell everyone that you're NOT listening to something?

to initiate a conversation.

in this case, killer mike's past indiscretions and as stated in reply 6: the bigger issue of first impressions marring your future output.

these issues are mildly interesting to me, so i posted them.

thanks for contributing.

it's an interesting tactic to suppress dissent.

of course, an internet "troll" is someone who posts things they may or may not believe in an attempt to conjure humor/shock/outrage, i.e. attention.

for example: desus was the quintessential "troll" poster of okayplayer.

in my opinion, espousing and articulating a genuine opinion intelligently (perhaps an unfavorable one) is not "trolling".

we don't believe you dun, you need at least one person

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

have a nice weekend.

your post is just silly prejudice.

you don't want to listen to RAP music or the two RTJ albums?

your loss, dickhead.

this post is just another one in the endless stream of pompous offbase bullshit that comprises your entire okp presence.

>your post is just silly prejudice.
>
>you don't want to listen to RAP music or the two RTJ albums?
>
>your loss, dickhead.
>
>this post is just another one in the endless stream of pompous
>offbase bullshit that comprises your entire okp presence.

thanks for sharing your thoughts.

we all know this is david bammer and whatever other names there have been

he keeps coming back to bless us with his love of music

he's a cyber-masochist

>he's a cyber-masochist

Can't front on the Whole World either. I love his verse on Poppin Tags - I'm obviously happy that he's evolved as a rapper and human but I do miss his old persona

The other tracks I can take or leave but if you're missing out on some of the better hip-hop music of the last few years that's on you. There's plenty of music people could potentially miss out on b/c of a poor first impression

I can even excuse Marvin for Sexual healing

I can excuse Mr. Biggs for being Mr. Biggs.

Because they all made great music in their careers...

a few misteps here and there are not going to make me throw away they whole catalog.

I can even excuse Jay Z for "Sunshine" and the Video as well..

i unfortunately don't view the guy from "the whole world" in the same league as stevie wonder, marvie gaye, ron isley, or even jay-z.

you really can't tell where an artist will go.

You'll be missing out on some great music.

fyi

thanks for letting me know.

Other more important things to know- http://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU

Because it doesn't fit into the narrative he's already created in his head where Killer Mike is some kind of joke rapper because he made a few lighthearted songs with Outkast, titans of Southern hip-hop. God forbid a guy jump on a track with his idols, knowing full well it would be on the Scooby Doo soundtrack? lol. Definitely a legit reason to dismiss his entire output.


And for the record, there's not a damn thing wrong with any of the songs you posted, OP. Are they fucking pantheon classics of hip-hop? No. But they're not abominations either.

In fact, I like them better than the El-P songs, though I also enjoy those.

@rob_starrk

Because of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDT8OOkS_dc

does killer mike have a fleet of 7 other brand new, all-star rappers backing him?

Who made something wack in the past is precluded from making something worthwhile. I mean, RZA is credited as the driving force behind Wu-Tang.

if not, you're just making a false equivalency.

36 Chambers as you're gonna get nowadays.

because i mean, i can still listen to those right?

See, you're attempting to make this about whether Run The Jewels is on par with 36 Chambers (or any other Wu project folks hold dear). That's not the point. This is actually about your original comment that you cannot listen to anything by Killer Mike based on your first impressions of him.

So, if you thought "Oh We Love You Rakeem" was wack, then you likely would not have given anything he did after that the time of day. Likewise with Jay-Z because of Hawaiian Sophie. Or, Bob Marley if you didn't dig ska. Or, Parliament if you weren't into doo wop. Did you think the Fugees first album was subpar? If so, no The Score for you.

Or, you can just let it be known that you just don't like an artist. Or, you can actually allow an artist to grow. Or (god forbid) actually let them express themselves in different ways on different projects.

…Personally did not really feel Killer Mike's ish before, but can't deny how he evolved as a MC…brother comes correct over EL's ish…Love the fact that he goes in on dudes on the sly too….like Jay/Kanye and Cannibal Ox. Brave enough to call names, somewhat of a lost aspect in Hip Hop…refreshing….

"Sea Legs"…."cannibal animal rappers I eat'm…"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GAIkESrQr0

Why would he call them out randomly? They've been out of the public eye for over a decade

...Mike is just showing he got EL's back, and don't think it's a stretch at all...It wasn't all that long ago that cornball vast aire was still trying to come at EL-P...

el-p best record is still cold vein

and vast raps laps around el

And I love the Cannibal Ox joint....without EL though, Vast/Ox is nothing...they had released some project that was pretty weak, and Vast tried to come at EL from various angles. Anyway, we all see the greatness EL is turning out, and nothing of quality from Vast, who was basically a one trick pony...as far as lyrics, I disagree completely, will take EL all day over Vast....

As in just a nasty rhyme & he just eats up rappers.
Never crossed my mind but I guess not that far fetched.

I mean whatever. It's your loss if you're actively avoiding albums that are so incredible and that are so critically acclaimed at this point. RAP Music, RTJ and RTJ 2 were each strong candidates for the best albums from those years - and despite your first impressions (which again, only two of those are solo Killer Mike songs), I'd think that if you're a music fan that you should at least give them a listen to see what the fuss is about.

I know how first impressions can be, but if I see a lot of acclaim - especially from people whose opinions I trust to a certain extent - I'll give the new material a chance, or even give the old material a spin with fresh ears. Audio Push had given me a terrible impression early on, but one of my homies told me that their album Come As You Are was one of the best albums of that year. I gave it a spin, and they sounded like completely new artists. Some artists are able to grow/reinvent themselves - hell, that's often how the best artists manage to stay around for a while.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmTfK6_aM8
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMED7GERpeQ
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTvudepf1k4
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryIjCkw3Jfg
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFibI_1ZPV4
>
>you know what they say about first impressions, you only get
>to make them once.
>
>i'll be actively avoiding this guys music for the rest of my
>life.

lol you saying his new shit doesn't compare to the greatness that you linked to?

in 90% of your posts

i mean at some point, don't you begin to wonder, "maybe it is JUST ME, with this OPINIONS"

and "I actually don't like music"

i post them because i simply want to voice them.

i don't have the time to respond to everyone, but i appreciate all interest.

thank you.

That track was fire.