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2867589, i went over that in post 32
Posted by philpot, Tue Jan-28-14 08:34 AM
>Dre & Snoop both sold way more than Biggie ever did. Even the
>biggest Snoop detractors would admit that Snoop was a highly
>skilled MC in those days. G Thang was the damn Hip Hop anthem
>for a couple of years.

no, it was an MTV anthem for a couple of years LOL

still, none of this speaks to Biggie, considered a singularly skilled MC & no matter how much you scream "west coast" in the context of those says a hard & skilled NY street rapper crossing over to top 40 was unheard of


>>yet they never went pop & neither of those dudes made pop
>>records, big was the first legit true skilled NY MC (again
>the
>>perception was tilted to the East for so called "real"
>>hip-hop) to break a big pop record (run dmc were a group)
>....
>>big poppa was fucking huge, my 13 year old white sister had
>>that shit thats how i got a good non radio dub of who shot
>ya
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>That's incorrect too and why this article is so annoying. It
>not only tries to simplify history it also tries to rewrite
>it. LL was making pop records back when Big was in high
>school. I've long said that Walking With A Panther was the
>blueprint for many of the flossed out, fly NY MC's that would
>blow up in the next decade. Champagne popping, booties
>wiggling in videos, obvious attempts at crossover to wider
>audiences...LL did all of that and sold shit loads of records
>long before Big Poppa. That doesn't even include BDK who did a
>lot of the same thing, to lesser success obviously, before Big
>as well. Like I said this article comes across as an outsider
>discussing something he has minimal knowledge about and trying
>to come across as an expert on it to whoever his followers
>might be.
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dude, no matter how many precursors there were for the crossover move, NONE, not LL, not Kane, NONE of them crossed over to top 40 & white audiences like Biggie did w/ Big Poppa & One More Chance (and ultimately Hypnotize)

none were anywhere near as influential on the rise of Jay Z

i think you just dont like the premise, you are making assumptions about the author & therefore your being "annoyed" is more important than what the author is trying to say about Big's role in the dismantling of clandestine hip-hop culture

its so weird to see ppl proudly declare "im not reading further" bc of *insert nitpicky burr up someone's ass* like they dont even realize it makes them look like an intolerant snob who would rather hold on to their dogmatic preconceptions instead of engaging a wider ranging and logical analysis

cats cant let go of their emotional reactions to certain ideas in hip hop

time to grow up

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>>>>im not saying this is correct but even the "traditional"
>>>>rappers from LA & the Bay looked to NY to get true school
>>>>"cred"
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