Back in the day was who was she on the level of? Like in the last 10 to 15 years, what female artist that's been around was she the equivalent too? I'm real interested in knowing more about her time as an artist and her story after the whole TLC story and all. Of course I've grown up listening to records by her years by way of the radio and whatever my pops had playing on the radio but what were her albums like? Was she really big as an artist? Did she hit her apex and if not is she like an Unsung type artist?

I was born the year she first made her mark as an artist so forgive me for not knowing, lol.

Class in session!

i was gonna say Keyshia Cole but i think Keyshia has more hits than Pebbz had.

Pebbles had 6 or 7... even if they were "hood hits." I'm not gonna look up actual chart positions or sales figures, but

1. Mercedes Boy
2. Girlfriend
3. Backyard
4. Giving You the Benefit
5. Love Makes Things Happen
6. Always

am I forgetting any?

She was kinduva big deal for a quick minute there...

this is crucial info here, man.

thanks for including it b/c the ppl need to know.

>thanks for including it b/c the ppl need to know.

Millian is more like Robyn S level if you going there.

you turkeys don't impress me much peebles was the pre cursor faith evans

Pebbles and Christina Milian are both gorgeous, but Christina hasn't
had any #1 hits yet, and Pebbles had 4 #1 songs. Plus, Pebbles has written songs for other artists too.

I tend to exaggerate Christina's success. I figure she must have had a hit or 2 though I don't know them or even their names. Bc her name keeps popping up and she was even on DWTS. Lol. But I have Google and I have used it and found that Christina doesn't have any hits, really. I agree that Pebbz had a few more. Still, her popularity was brief and I don't agree that she was on Faith's level. Faith crossed over in a way Pebbz never did. Sure she was featured on her biggest hits but that's a level of success Pebbz never had. But I agree Pebbz was bigger than Christina.

though Charli Baltimore got as much of that, thats another day and story.

Ashanti and Ja RUle were on that Grease tip which while cute was no Peebles and Babyface. Whip Appeal alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all them songs on Murda inc

that is the link alone turkey. Puffy married her off to Bigggie.

Faith wrote for Mary J Bliege early on.

faith though was always a 2nd/3rd tier act.

you gonna act like Faith had a song on her own as big as whip appeal? turkey Please.

or brought an act as big to a label like TLC? TUrkey Double Please!!

Peebles had a run that was tougher for black acts to cross over believe that one turkey.

Faith is the first lady of Bad Boy like Peebles was the first lady of Laface except Pebbles had a piece of the action.

How many singers can say they had four #1 songs? Plus, Pebbles wrote songs for other artists like Con Funk Shun and Babyface. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

we done put that turkey in check, broke the breaks off that Gobble head turkey. Peebles had a decent little run.

>How many singers can say they had four #1 songs?

a lot.

I would consider a singer successful to have achieved one #1 song in their career. Most singers wish they could get just one #1 song. Pebbles had several #1's. She was a success. There is no question that she was a successful solo artist. The TLC issue tainted her career and reputation but that does not take away from the fact of what she achieved as a singer and writer for many artists behind the scenes. She also helped La Reid and Babyface mold their artists at their peak of LAFace Records.

because you spoke nothing but the stone cold truth

nice little run. any jive turkey thinks its easy to have 4 number 1 songs let alone won is tweaking.

you're always spot on, maxxx. everything you post is absolutely correct and unassailable. reasonable ppl will always agree w/you.

"YoU GOT SERVED"

so clever.

you're the best ever, man.

like a puppy with a bone and a blank smile. turkey you ain't slick you got served and handled on this thread about peebles

you can shove that turkey shit up your fucking ass, you slow bastard.

frog lip, glassy eyed, Jimmy JJ Walker bugged chin Liver juice dranking turkey.

you don't want none of me, I'll hurt your feelings you jive hack.

now go take your behind to a St Louis Greyhound and turn some tricks that is all you got.

i'd dap you up if you were here. that was a good one. lol

near the Airport. cold kicking by the Ozark.

that late-80's thing that people say Luther never really achieved.

Pebbles first hit "Girlfriend" was very big with the suburban white kids I was around in the late 80's (I moved to the suburbs in my 11th grade school year).

Then follow up hits like "Mercedes boy" and "take your time" were very big with R&b radio (not too sure how much "Girlfriend" was big with R&B radio, but pop audiences loved "Girlfriend")

Pebbles was big with the Babyface LA Reid scene. Pebbles was the person who gave Babyface the idea for the song "Whip appeal" because Pebbles brought up the phrase: "she got him whipped" while she was in the studio with Babyface talking about some guy infatuated with some lady.

Pebbles was interviewed on Arsenio show a couple of times late 80's early 90's. Then her 2nd album was released and it had some hits like "backyard", "giving you the benefit" and "always" that were big with R&B radio and it seemed like she made a good sophmore album, not a fall-off situation.

Then..........Pebbles married LA Reid, and......seemed like....that wasn't good for her career.

Not even sure she did a 3rd album.

Yet, she was working with TLC but now it is known she and LA weren't too "together" while she was getting TLC off the ground (I say this because LA supposedly didn't know how "bad" Pebbles contracts with TLC were around then) so.........

Between working with TLC and marrying LA Reid that seemed to be it for Pebbles musical career.

She is now a preacher.

... not only will it be one for the books, it will be a good schooling lesson. Especially if he brings up any of the TLC debacle the rags been talking about.

can't compare nobody out now to peebles because she had the right connections and had enough cross over without crossing over.

yeah she is unsung because she came along during a time that the door was opened by a Janet Jackson, a Jody watley which allowed a Peebles to cross over.

yeah the facts

she had some big hits and she took "girlfriend" from vanessa Williams and in some ways they mirrored one another as artists though Williams got more talent overall IMO.

what some folks don't know is that peebles was on the ground with La and babyface before they really took off.

gotta remember girlfriend hit right around the time the deeles two occasions and the other stuff Laface had out at the time.

Peebles got with LA Reid and her ex hand a price tag on LA's head and him and face hauled booty to the ATL in fear.


Peebles had some Suge Knight in his guts and she pimped TLC and got that get back.

Peebles was a low 2nd tier high 3rd tier act at best, however assocation made her seem more of a threat.

she did have a 3rd album however it went wood.

and no money was on her once TLC took off and she broke up with LA.


yeah she co write "Whip Appeal" for Babyface and they wanted to give it to Prince who turned it down.

anyway that song hit big time and again Peebles being in the right place at the right time.

Love makes things happen hit as a duet with her and Face and again timing and selling them off as duet couple.

rewind for a minute her ex paid out of pocket every Producer and writer on her debut album.

he had crazy cake and street cred, Peebles got turned out long ago.

"Loves train" by COn funks shun is about her. crazy stuff.

Peebles hooked up Tracy Edmounds on to Babyface and that was another company production if you will.

anyway Peebles got TLC and had a deal that linned her pockets up. had she and LA made it together longer she and him would have gotten there SUgar Hill records on. Peebles was all street on that paper work.

when la and babyface split up ad Laface got sold Peebles got taken care of nicely.

her first two albums went gold and i think the 2nd one went platinum.

TLC had to pay her 3 milion to buy the name back so i know she got some serious cake and bank. Peebles got some Pimp in that blood stream and she ain't nothing nice.

if the true story of LA and Babyface ever came out it would be a motion picture and book you couldn't put down.

i call her the ELi Manning because she been hit and miss and then throw a haymaker and wins and Win big.

right place, right time and the artists and songs,etc..

peebles helped put laface the Producers on the map and as a label on the map as well so her story is compelling though as a artist one of those acts that you would dig a few things, but the sum ain't as deep as the parts except when you put in association and then she becomes a big time player.

Like I said, I've known of her singles for quite some time but she was one of those artist to me (being that I'm only 27) who had a couple of catchy tunes but I would probably only check out a "best of" album if I ever took the time to check out her music.

Her story seems like a very interesting one and right off the bat after hearing more and more about her since the whole TLC movie along with recent interviews she's done and then thinking back on the Vh1 Behind The Music, she reminded me more and more of Suge Knight, so I get that comparison. Because it seems like she's more of a hustler and all about her bread but all the while she has a vision and knows what it takes to get things cooking.

I'm always amazed at how someone like Pebbles or Suge can be so smart when it comes to knowing what works in the business.

Man, thank you again for this post. This is just astonishing and very interesting!

the music business is a hustler's paradise and like any young act it ain't how it seems and acts tend to cash in on other's mistakes.

she made more cake off of whip appeal and tlc than her career combined.

she was in the right place,right time situation.

the suge connection was gangstering "girlfriend" from vanessa williams and she practically sounds like her on the track.

peebles was about that money and keeping it hood.

the business like life who you now not what.

Awesome.

I knew Pebbles co-wrote "Whip Appeal" by Babyface when I looked at the song's credits on my Babyface greatest hits albums. I was thinking, most people don't know they wrote this song together. "Whip Appeal" was the song back in the day.

Pebbles was definitely no one hit wonder.
She had 4 primary chart topping songs -
-"Girlfriend" (#1 - R & B, #5 - Pop)
-"Mercedes Boy" (#1 - R & B, #2 - Pop)
-"Giving You the Benefit (of the Doubt)" (#1 - R & B, #4 - Pop)
-"Love Makes Things Happen" (Duet w/Babyface)" (#1 - R & B, #13 - Pop)

Those songs have held up over time and still sound great today.
I think she was pretty successful as a solo artist if you ask me.
She still look fine too!

This was my favorite song on Pebble's 3rd album "Straight From My Heart" which was a pretty good album with cuts also produced by Diddy, Organized Noize, Chucky Thompson, and Mario Winans.
She did the song justice and it was a great remake that should have been a single.

Pebbles
"I Can't Help It"
http://youtu.be/o2lLra5UY30

Thanks for the link.

I bought that cd when I was a freshman at Howard and "I Can't Help It" stayed on repeat. They should have centered that Pebbles album around that song. People would be surprised how good the song is.

drops the mic and leaves the stage

think about the career, side projects and business blueprint and hustling

It's a great example for me because I grew up on 90's R&B and Hip Hop so it makes the picture all the more clearer for me. Thanks maxxx.

and the other irony they both got hustled by Clive davis in different ways.

I mean she was cute and all...but to me I never viewed her as super talented...more taking advantage of opportunity...which is all good for her..

but again..as a singer and an artist I was never super impressed with Pebbles.

but with more talented. Well maybe not quite Vanity looks wise, cause there's only Vanity, lol. But she still seemed like the type of chick niggas would've kept posters up of or proclaimed their "dream girl" back in the day.

I was just watching this performance of her's from Soul Train the other day, she was fine as fuck too! The performance was really good. Here's a link to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7md8rases5A

But judging by way of her songs and all, she sounded pretty good on record. I agree with what maxxx said in that she's like Faith Evans because Faith has a good voice and can sing. But she's also no Whitney or Mariah for that matter. Nevertheless there is talent there and I respect when a songwriter can sing and write their own shit. It ain't never been enough of that in the game; a pretty woman who can write and sing. Nice a triple combo right there.

I miss (cause even the era I grew up in -- the 90's) when you had a woman who was equally as talented as she is beautiful. Now it's just all image with no real great singles.

Babyface was gettin' it in for Pebbles on that Soul Train clip. He was dancing hard too. I always wondered why Pebbles married LA Reid instead of Babyface.

wasn't nothing there at all. business and show.

Whitney Houston and Pebbles were real close at one point.
Here are some cool videos of Whitney and Pebbles back in the day

Pebbles, Whitney Houston, & Babyface on Arsenio Hall
http://youtu.be/x7BGHJk56aU

Pebbles and CeCe Winans Praying for Whitney Houston
http://youtu.be/cRRMrYvTXtE

Whitney Houston and Pebbles - Friday Night Videos Part 1
http://youtu.be/8Xsv9oZ5-O0

Whitney Houston and Pebbles - Friday Night Videos Part 2
http://youtu.be/LX0lM9EVPZA

Whitney Houston and Pebbles - Friday Night Videos Part 3
http://youtu.be/_hcT_r5gUHM

that vibe she gives off in songs like "Mercedes boy" and "always"

very melancholy....like Cherelle too

that's what makes some of her hits timeless (definitely not "Girlfriend"). Just the right touch....

Sort of like the melancholy vibe Patrice Rushen gives on "forget me nots" and "watch out".

A little bit of soul, restraint and melancholy can take songs to the stratosphere...

Aaliyah had that too...ability to communicate some melancholy

they is cousin and you hear that tone

Pebbles was her sexiest and finest in her music video
"Giving You the Benefit (of the Doubt)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChvLHqmX27o

but then she was also so sexy in
"Love Makes Things Happen" (duet with Babyface)
http://youtu.be/5egURt6AKPk

She is a Beautiful woman.

in my adolescent FAP directory for a solid 2 yrs.