>as for Quincy Jones as far as putting the right songs
>and arranging and getting the concepts, etc.. that is his
>Greatness, however on the hands on and doing anything or
>actually creating things, then he is vastly overrated.



at least it was.
the idea of the producer making the entire track and then handing it over to the artist
is a hip hop thing.

before that, it meant what you just described.

Quincy is the one that told MIke to redo the vox
on the lady in my life over and over again and to dig deeper
until he pulled out the best take.


Quincy is the one that had Mike sing in lower registers on OTW.

Quincy is the one that said Billie jean had to have a unique sonic quality
in order to be on "thriller"


everything you're describing is a producers job.