>>>>The word "previously" is the key. Obviously expectations
>>>>change. That doesn't make them less real, does it? Nor any
>>>>less important in the definition of form. So, what's
>false?
>>>
>>>By your rationale there was something wrong with atonality
>>>before it was an accepted norm.
>>
>>I never wrote that. Never wrote anything like that.
>
>You said expectations change, implying that prior expectations
>weren't wrong.

First, I think you meant "were wrong." Second, I implied nothing. Expectations change. Period. I've written NOTHING about right and wrong. That's all you.

>In other words before atonality became
>accepted it was not music because it did not meet 'our'
>'expectations' of 'music'.

Again, you've got to get some reading done. When I use the terms "genre" and "expectations" I have very precise theoretical meanings in mind.

>>>The time from then back to the first person to sing isn't a
>>>long time? Yeah okay.
>>
>>You didn't specify. I was talking exclusively about
>digitally
>>generated music. Address what I wrote, not what you wish I
>>wrote.
>
>Actually I did see:

What?

>>>Peak doesn't have to mean best.
>>
>>LOL...well, WTF does it mean then?
>
>The peak is the summit, the highest point, the farthest a
>thing can go.

Well, it's certainly arrogant to suggest that whatever sort of electronic sounds you have in mind are somehow the "-est" of anything at all. Arrogant, and ironically short-sighted.

>Then why start with a swipe on Kenny G? Why emphasize the
>47-minute held note?

LOL @ "emphasize." You wrote "to the max." Well, that's one example of "max." I see you STILL haven't addressed any existing explorations of the technique, despite my prompting you with actual examples.

>>So no. I asked what YOU mean.
>
>Said

I don't follow.

>>>But what if the techniques explored weren't in the how
>>>long, but in the what else can be done while?
>>
>>Such as?
>
>The particular example I'm thinking of is a solo tenor
>performance in which while a note is held

This, within a few sentences of complaining about my held-note example!

>while playing a
>percussive drum and bass like rhythm that produces an
>improvised melody.

Why would such a thing depend on the existence/influence of electronic music?

>Specifically the playing of dnb parts rhythmically on the sax
>while circular breathing.

So really, you're just saying saxophonists could make dnb sounds on their saxes.