What happened to Fredwreck? Do people really fall off from making beats?

Was noddin to this today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aOTpVeilCg

>Do people really fall off from
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>Was noddin to this today:
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Producers that fall off probably don't maintain good relationships with artists and managers/agents. Or, probably got some ego/complex that makes niggas not wanna fuck with you.

He was untouchable on the west in the 90's and then disappeared...

...so he's not really a 00's producer, he's produced for tons of artist, and he's still producing, he's recently produced a track for WC, Snoop Dogg, and for Everlast, so I wouldn't call that falling off or disappearing but more like getting unnoticed by you all.

yup.. also, he used to mix on KMEL in the late 80's/very early 90's if I remember correctly..

Also RIP to Disco D, loved 50's Ski Mask Way & AZ's City Of Gods.

and how could i forget SuperProducer Solar?

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Fergie's "The Glamorous Life" single is my favorite song produced by him, followed by Ciara's "Promise".

i guess thats my bad, Polow

Because he was everywhere years ago. Last time I saw him was on Donald Trump's reality tv show.

I'd say his record label problems was the biggest thing that cooled him off, when he couldn't lend his voice on hooks to the beats that he did.

I also think a white crowd "discovered" him via Chappelle Show, while his original audience (niggas) just wanted to pigeonhole him into that joke.

Rockwilder was the shit, but was he any more of a one-trick pony than the cats who are out now?

if he's still around I haven't heard any of his shit.

M.I.A - Bad Girls

Last year had placements with Chris Brown, Usher, Tank, Brandy.

but any word from Supa Dave West?

And uses an army of ghost producers (often from Toronto) to do so.

cuz I see Jermaine Dupri on the marquee at playhouse in hollywood every other weekend

If nothing else, people wanna party. Worldwide.

And a lot of these dudes got priced out of the market, at least in rap music.

They were used to the era of $30,000+ producer fees, plus the back end stuff. Those days are long gone.

Instead, artists started using new producers they (or their label, management, etc.) found online who would sell a beat for damn near nothing, just to get their foot in the door and to get the shine of being on a label.

Of course, when those same producers then tried to start to monetize their music and charged reasonable rates, they got phased out and the new Soundclick or Twitter producer was brought in.

There's a reason dudes like Just Blaze or Lil Jon do DJ gigs these days instead of make beats, and it's not because they all of a sudden lost the ability to make dope shit.

he said the reason you don't hear his beats anymore
is because there's only "3 to 4" people that can
afford him, in his words.

and much of his reasoning is he insists that
young producers "giving away" music on mixtapes
messed up everything, but yeah he didn't really
address the fact that the sales & budgets changed.

because i get where his frustration stems from,
but when you compare that to a guy like alchemist
who's seemed to have done the complete opposite
in recent years & pretty much opening the flood gates
on his beats. i'm sure most of these projects have
limited to no budgets, but that hasn't stopped him.

~~~riedy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hell, it prompted me to buy it. His and Brook D'Leau.

just got a maschine myself actually, last month. love it so far

I still bump the hell outta his 2005 instrumental album "Ge-ology Plays Ge-ology"

he's got so much amazing new music. i know he wants to get it all finished and unleash it on the world

does he have a site?

i suppose i could google..

I love your music btw!

Even though I had the majority of the songs on it from 12inch joints he produced for other artists, to have those instrumental joints all on one cd was perfect plus it was continuously mixed was a dope.

Can't wait for that new album cause after he released that I thought he would be getting calls from underground rappers all over the place, so I'm eager to hear what he's been working on.

lately, but they have still made music.

Battlecat hasn't had many songs that get radio play, even here, since maybe "Cali is active."

Meech Wells been ghost.

Rick Rock was a MONSTER in the Hyphy movement, he's made music since but nothing as big

G-One has been pretty ghost.

Jelly Roll had HEATERS in that early 2000 period.

Soopafly had some bangers back then, he's still making random stuff for DPG and had a solo a few years ago.

L.T. Hutton was in that DPG camp...he's been ghost

Jellyroll NEVER had heaters.

THIS wasn't a banger?????? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3amxsFWCT0

Or THIS???? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSXkVXz_oys

THIS?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWeTqPgkSls

Even laid back underrated tracks like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4MFxA5dlrU

And most of all....THIS????? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLIVstm6rE

*calms down....while Cripwalkin*

I even liked his experimental tracks like "I can't swim." "Stoplight" was kinda experimental in a way. He was one of the originators of that slightly off beat L.A. sound, especially in the "Gangsta" lane...Dilla influenced the more progressive Boom Bappers. But shit I'd argue that folks like Flying Lotus were even influenced by Jelly Roll.

Don't touch 'em, hoe.

He had some dope shit on one of them Xzibit albums I copped.

>And most of all....THIS?????
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLIVstm6rE
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>*calms down....while Cripwalkin*

this is my SHIT. that is one of the best records from the west coast period.

Best tracks in that period. For sure better than what Meech Wells had.

it drops next week...and it's a waste of good beats.

>JellyRoll just did an EP with Lil' Wyte....
>it drops next week...and it's a waste of good beats.

When I saw it I was thinking the same thing too, it's a shame but yeah that's how it is these days, dope producers will sell beats to anybody who wants them, can't be picky these days.

I wonder if those beats were old joints that Snoop & Xzibit turned down when Jellyroll was giving them heaters?

he did 50's "hustler's ambition" & the intro on kingdom come
pretty sure i never heard from him again.

granted i could google his name,
but i kinda like the mystery lol

~~~riedy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

He's currently producing, deejaying and blogging...
http://waxmurdaraz.com/content/b-money/

At his peak, dude was responsible for Beyonce, Amerie, and J. Lo's arguably biggest hits, respectively. He was kinda the go-to guy for R&B cats tryna get they lil jump-off street joint for a hot minute. Now? Milk carton status..

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