it's out there. thoughts?

Its a great 1.5 in there. I might like it more later but he def released some heat this year.

Him rhyming over 2 classic songs was ambitious as hell. He still 2 earnest imo

I added cartoon and cereal to start it off with it but the rest stayed the same

Listening here--

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/j-cole-born-sinner-full-album-stream-mp3.html

FUEGO.

Don't ever touch a Kast track again nigga!

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That one kinda worked.

came on..... wow.. 2nd song in and i'm borderline mad lol.. dude needs to start letting other ppl produce for him..

Keep seeing comments every where saying how much better this is than his first and such (even here, already). I thought his first album was really good. So much that after a few listens I'd say if I end up liking this new one more, it won't be by much.

Besides that bullshit track with Missy and the one that track that followed I thought Cole World was great.

I didn't. He's not strong enough a producer to carry an entire album IMO.

IT was not a good overall album and he left some heat off it

Not really. The first album was dope. This is just typical OKP stuff. If you made a post right now about how Good Kid Maad City was dope the at least the first two posts would be about how it was waaaay overated.

But I don't revisit it much either.

I thought the singles were cool, but not as dope as the highlights of the album. I thought the production was boring; too many songs sounded so much alike that I couldn't tell them from one another. I've grown more sympathy after learning that much of Cole World was supposed to be Friday Night Lights, but that he had to take the L and drop a free tape to keep his buzz from going away; I thought FNL was incredible. Off of one listen, Born Sinner does seem more entertaining.

I think Cole's perspective is one that's very necessary in the mainstream rap perspective, and I REALLY want to see him win. I think there are rappers out there who are less technically skilled than him who are making better records in general though. Going to run back Born Sinner though.

Never understood how somebody that likes hip hop music could not love this album. I can't argue it because it's a matter of taste but I truly am shocked when i hear somebody say Cole World is a bad album. For me, it's one of the best hip hop albums in a long time. Haven't listened to Born Sinner enough yet to judge but if it's better than Cole World, sounds like a classic.

>Besides that bullshit track with Missy

You mean "Nobody's Perfect"? That's the only track I still play consistently
independent of the album. The rest I kinda have to be in a Cole mood
for. Come to think of it, I think that's the result of his overall sound
and vibe being very unlike anything currently out.

i'm about to add a few tracks from the recent EP to make things more interesting

The Nas comparisons this guy gets are so ridiculous. People are far too desperate to create 'this generation's X'. And it's so unnecessary, when there are so many great rappers out at the moment, why do people even try and force themselves to latch onto J.Narcolepsy.

Its sad that hip hop is such a zero sum game. No he isn't the next nas, or even the hottest out right now, but he still makes dope music. I like this album and the first was dope too. He talks about stuff that a lot of rapper don't (which isn't that much of an accomplishment in and of itself) but his music isn't defined by his subject matter. He just tries to make dope music.

>too. He talks about stuff that a lot of rapper don't (which
>isn't that much of an accomplishment in and of itself)

because i aint hearing shit that isnt derivative of Kanye & Drake. shit even Wale.

He talks about his life, accomplishment, worries, failures successes,
etc.

He actually went to college and graduated. Seein' as how he graduated,
he can't be taking that from Kanye, because Ye talked about being
a dropout.

He talks about that and his desire to succeed and be a good man
and make his moms proud. Not sure who you're saying he took that from.

I'm not really sure what you're saying he took from Drake unless it's
talking about women, which would be ridiculous because he's a
hetero male too.

And Wale? No idea.

Feel free to try and explain.

The decision to have an abortion or keep the baby even though you know you are not ready for it.

The only thing I meant it that he talks about things other than money, hoes (not women), and violence. It isn't much, but that still puts the variety of his subject matter 100 miles beyond 90% of rappers. It is a sad comment on hip hop but still true.

what you say bad about Cole?

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Please let it be so!

So do you not like him because you don't like the music, or because you feel he doesn't deserve the Nas comparisons?

I actually was a huge fan of his second mixtape. But I feel like he's got worse and worse since then. Or maybe just hearing him more has opened my eyes to how fucking boring his flow is, and how he tries way too hard with everything.

The raps are passable...decent stuff here and there. Nothing too mind blowing. But the production/mixing/mastering are excellent. Pure ear candy. Doesn't really sound like too many other albums out there right now. The song compositions are pretty catchy too. Huge step up from the last album, which I thought sucked really bad.

Just saying his beats should hit more.
Lecrae makes harder music.

I can respect his writing ability, but his subject matter and overall vibe/persona just bores me. i turned it off after the 5th song and went back to albert einstein.

Though I liked his first album I can definitely agree that a lot of the songs sound the same, beat-wise. Definitely enjoyed this one just as much as the first though. Only track I'm not that into is the track with Miguel.

was dope.

The idea for the song is wack, however.

"I mean you made 'You Owe Me' dog, I thought that you could relate"

when he NoID tells him what nas says, i could literally hear nas saying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQDF3NUheZM

The new album is pretty damn solid.

Cole is one of the best out today. Mainstream w/ heart....

I listened to this straight through today and it is the first J. Cole release that has grabbed and kept my attention production wise and lyrically.

He was spittin on this shit and it was ALOT more fluid he has up to this point.

That being said......that Outkast sample....ehhhhh. Not as bad as Lupe spittin over T.R.O.Y. though. lol.

Lupe is a much better rapper and actual made a great song whereas Cole took essentially the same OutKast beat and spit rhymes WAY inferior to Kast's on the same beat.

I could barely stand to listen to the J. Cole track...

I wasn't impressed at all. I def see this thing MAYBE getting one more listen and that's a big maybe :)

They have a strong 2-step garage vibe to 'em.

Diggin' this so far, and I've never been a big J.Cole fan. I may cop this.

Drake also buys The Weeknd's Trilogy cd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hp4xV3KWckA