https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/prisoner-conscious-deluxe/id636996538

Anyone else looking forward to this? I thought it was going to be called Prisoner of Consciousness?

Surprising no one seems to be discussing it. Or maybe people today only talk about album leaks for two days and then move on to find more disposable music.

He's got a new album coming out and people probably still asking him about that Black Star mixtape that's never coming out.

I haven't listened to anything yet. Hoping it will be good since I haven't been feeling his recent stuff too much.

How are you lames gonna blame this on Chief Keef and Waka Flocka?


http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17943-talib-kweli-prisoner-of-conscious/

Read deliberately, Prisoner of Conscious isn’t that much less provocative a title in 2013 than Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead was in 2006. We're now a little more than three years removed from Waka's infamous "I'm not into being lyrical" comments, and about two and a half on from Flockaveli, a willfully boneheaded album approaching classic status these days. Talib Kweli, then, isn't cut out for these times. Songs like 1998's "Definition" and 2002's "Get By" still deserve all the adulation they inspire, but there's a reason the 37-year-old founding father of conscious-rap is now acknowledging his own antiquity. So when third song “Turnt Up” shows up on Kweli’s fifth solo album, it's probably right to perceive it as an allegorical jailbreak.

And, unfortunately if predictably, “Turnt Up” marks the beginning of Prisoner’s issues. The song knows what it wants to be but doesn’t have the wherewithal to be it. Its piano-lined, uppercutting pop aims for the radio, but, not even factoring in the club-unfriendliness of Kweli’s nose-pinched delivery, I just can’t imagine it fitting in next to “Fuckin’ Problems” or “Bugatti”. The track might be the only flail at relevancy here, but when guys like Kendrick and Miguel show up-- the former laying down one of his best guest verses of late on “Push Thru”, the latter as seductive as ever with his suitably come-hither-y hook for “Come Here”-- their appearances scan as misguided attempts at lending the album a vaguely populist hue. For a record that doesn’t have a binding identity in the first place, that’s a regrettably fragmenting problem.

As great as the jutting, soul-sampling production of 2002’s Quality was, Kweli’s saving grace has always been his well-intentioned lyricism, not his taste in beats. But Prisoner is marred by weak analogies (“colder than Minnesota,” “buzz like Georgia Tech) and Kweli’s bumpy writerliness (“ornithology” and “onomatopoeia” are just two less-than-melodious words used here), leading this to be his most underwhelming record yet word-for-word. And for every few lines that actually do stand up to some of Kweli’s smarter work (“Black Moses when the mic is on/ That’s why these rappers scatter like roaches when the light is on”), there’s a half-cocked concept, like this one from “Hamster Wheel”: “How she runnin’ the streets but still standin’ still/ She needa get up off the hamster wheel.”

Listening to Prisoner next to something like the new Chance the Rapper tape reveals the record’s biggest, most pervasive dilemma. Where Acid Rap is a seamless convergence of local and post-regional sounds, Prisoner takes on a bunch of things one by one without squeezing the most from any of them. Kweli’s absolutely owned his lane when he’s been committed to it but now he's jumping around from style to style with no destination in sight.

Because I hate when critics say stuff like this:

>The song knows what it wants
>to be but doesn’t have the wherewithal to be it.

But this is what I was worried about:

>Kweli’s absolutely owned his lane when he’s been committed to
>it but now he's jumping around from style to style with no
>destination in sight.

I don't want to put anyone in a box, but I do like having a general idea of what I'm looking to hear. These days I don't really know what to expect from Kweli. I respect an artist having range, but for some reason the way he and Common do it, it always seems forced like "I can make these songs too!"

The Roots style can change for album to album, but there's still and underlining consistency that I feel I can expect from them. Like I don't know what their new stuff will sound like at all, but I know it'll feel like "The Roots" to me, whatever that means. I don't really know what to expect from Common or Kweli these days.

>But this is what I was worried about:
>
>>Kweli’s absolutely owned his lane when he’s been committed
>to
>>it but now he's jumping around from style to style with no
>>destination in sight.

his early rep was the whiny judgmental hip-hop purist (who, as is still the case, talks a lot about "wack" cats but never ever under any circumstances has the guts to name names)

i think he just is obsessed with not being the guy that he was judged to be when he first came in the game...he desperately doesn't want to be the "backpacker" that all the white kids like

and i don't know him personally so i don't know what's a real reflection (lol) of him as a person, but he just comes across as trying to serve many masters at once with his music, which makes his "old" fans not care and his "new" fans look at him as kind of just a novelty...

plus, he really just comes off as a prick so often it's hard to care...

>and i don't know him personally so i don't know what's a real
>reflection (lol) of him as a person, but he just comes across
>as trying to serve many masters at once with his music, which
>makes his "old" fans not care and his "new" fans look at him
>as kind of just a novelty...

You are troubled and in search of direction.

Good god.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

i might could be considered mad if i actually *wanted* new talib kweli music, but since ive moved on to better, more quality & moving music i have no reason to have an emotion on his shit in any way...just was on my peanut gallery shit

and yeah, i'm getting old ... it happens to almost everyone eventually

I'm being serious

You got paypal?

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

holla

Because if you're not, then you'll like this album.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

tell me more about what i should and shouldn't like or expect to like

lol

tell you what...i hate downloading w/o paying any longer and i hate streaming albums as well...this is why i pre-judge what's worth my time and money nowadays...

when it drops, buy me a cd or vinyl, send me an inbox and i'll give you the address you can mail that and my new gymbag to...

deal?

>when it drops, buy me a cd or vinyl, send me an inbox and i'll
>give you the address you can mail that and my new gymbag
>to...
>
>deal?

I'm that kind of nice dude

Really am

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

What music do I have to pre-determine I like/dislike?

I might actually start a post about this.

The rules: you have to listen and not be mad.

I'll think of which albums soon.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

I was diggin Push Thru and had high hopes for this album but then I got worried when I heard Upper Echelon. I liked both Gutter Rainbows and Attack the Block, I just hope this doesn't turn into Beautiful Struggle 2.

I'm gonna withhold judgement, but I'm not hyped for this project...cat use to be a favorite, but has been slippin, on some Common type ish. Hopefully this project is a pleasant surprise...Nelly being listed as guest is not promising...LOL...

I feel you on the Common comparison. Besides the corny metaphors, both are two of my favorites ever, but it's like they've tried too hard to get out their boxes that they don't have an identity to me anymore.

...would have loved to see both of them go more toward the route of where The Roots have decided to take their talents...

>I feel you on the Common comparison. Besides the corny
>metaphors, both are two of my favorites ever, but it's like
>they've tried too hard to get out their boxes that they don't
>have an identity to me anymore.


Kweli has tried too hard since Quality Control

It made me throw my hands in the air in disgust. Some of the beats are good but the lyrics are cringe worthy.

that rza joint w/ busta sounded nice...but it sounds like kwe and bus recorded their verses about 10 years ago for the beautiful mixtape or something...they're dope but i'm suprised dudes that talented haven't found some new flows to rock or new content to put out there...

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

n/m

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

just listening now.. i like it! will listen to this alot over the summer

>just listening now.. i like it! will listen to this alot over
>the summer


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

turned me off.

Its true.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

the bed he made.
didn't say i wasn't going to listen to it though

>the bed he made.
>didn't say i wasn't going to listen to it though

You're not going to listen. You're going to hate it
off cuff, because you already told me that you hated
it, even though you haven't listened to a single song.

I mean, the point about "the bed he made" isn't even
correct.

Like, nothing about you is smart or correct. Zero.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

spent countless hours trolling against 'the lesson'
if being bright means being anything you i'll be dim, thanks.

You the one mad at an album title.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

probably shouldn't question other people's intelligence.

But you are the maddest mardigan in the lesson

Literally

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

: - )


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Granted, a "great time" for you means mumbling a Simpsons quote to a girl and then running away.

Not many are so gifted

I'd be mad if I was you too

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Gimme a hug

Seriously


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

I'm serious


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

why not take your time and write something actually funny?

http://tinyurl.com/ccex8d4

lol...he really does need it, especially a white, eyes closed loving hug...he just needs to know someone cares, and that liking Hip Hop, while still being white is ok. If he could just slow down on trying to school brothers on ish all day, we might give him a pass...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2799138&mesg_id=2799138&listing_type=search#2800438


That being said, I'm glad you and OE found each other.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmZiqTLj3pU/UHOXj9lp9eI/AAAAAAAABck/AOBwhPHMDAA/s1600/Eating+Alone.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmZiqTLj3pU/UHOXj9lp9eI/AAAAAAAABck/AOBwhPHMDAA/s1600/Eating+Alone.jpg

I mean, this is Okayplayer.

The only place where trailer trash thinks they stand
a fighting chance.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

You guys have a real "Of Mice and Men" vibe going.

Literally

If you'd just give me a damn hug, bro

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

maybe devote even more energy to online persona cultivation. You should ask Spidey to start laughing at your jokes!

>maybe devote even more energy to online persona cultivation.
>You should ask Spidey to start laughing at your jokes!


http://tinyurl.com/cah6zgg <--- me and you, nobodies
momma and cousin too

Too late, bro

We're bffs for LYFE and you betcha bite a chip I mean LYFE

I'm dumping alllll my other bffs for you

I don't know what it is about you

you're just so witty

so intelligent

insightful

So insightful, I think you might be white, hence the
image in my head

and you like, really break down this rap game better
than anyone I know, like, seriously

literally even

what do you think of the status of break beats?

Like, what's your take?

...and is the all knowing source for what is, and what is not great Hip Hop...simply submit, he knows all..lol...Once in awhile he will throw up some wack ish he calls that hot next ish...usually it's tired, retread type wanna be hard core stuff that most have heard before. Never anything that pushes boundaries, or is really creative. Basically a follower type personality, still very confused by his own love of anything Hip Hop, clashing with his ideals as a white man of what society expects him to be. Next will come something to the affect that I follow him, and that you and I somehow have some connection (wait for it, the witty, white tinged comment is coming soon, which usually has an undertone of racism, for example, something about herpes, which is a huge issue in the black/latino community-not to be joked about imo)...when actually, he is just so easy to figure out after years of just being on this board. Cat is mad, confused, and condescending...

When dudes shit on her, at least she gets $200 bucks. You just get mad.

Keep trying. You'll get a laugh eventually.*

















































*Not really

I don't get these smart references

School someone from lower on the evolutionary scale

I'm serious

Serious about us being BFFs too


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

http://newyork.ucbtrainingcenter.com/

Plenty of hipster girls for you to be intimidated by in those classes too!

I like most songs on this album, there are also a few that I didn't like very much.

So far I've liked almost all of the release/leaked tracks.

Starts off great though. Overall I like this a lot more than Gutter Rainbows. I think most of my favorite track were the ones that were already released/leaked. Other than those the first 2 tracks were great and I actually really liked the one with Nelly.

I'd throw it a 3 out of 5.

I think if you cut 2-3 songs off of Eardrum, it would be a masterpiece. Liberation was also great.

But everything since then has been lukewarm. RPM was good, but not great. Admittedly, had it been billed as a Kweli album, I wouldn't have felt so let down by it.

Gutter Rainbows was very meh and Attack the Block was cool for a mixtape.


I'll give this new album a spin because Kweli is one of my all time favs, but I'm worried. I dont understand why an artist this late in his career is so caught up with labels. No artist wants to be told he should stick to a certain lane, but he's one of the best in that lane. Plus he's been able to make some pretty cool pop-rap songs "Get By" "I Try" "Hot Girl" "Soon the New Day" to name a few. This whole thing just feels very contrived, but this is all speculation becasue I haven't heard the album yet.

And I agree with the Common comparisons, but he has yet to put together something together as awful as UMC.

This is actually pretty good. Much better than Gutter Rainbows.

The Nelly song is pretty good, and Nelly delivers a pretty good verse.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1560702/talib-kweli-prisoner-of-conscious-exclusive-album-stream?utm_source=twitter

On par with Eardrum. It's no masterpiece, but who could expect that? This makes me want to hear more collaboration between him and Oh No.

The world is a brighter place

Give it a chance

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

in the last few days ive put all the random tracks i have on my hard drive along with official albums i got onto a playlist on itunes - over 300 tracks.. 21 albums.. majority of his music is good.. i cant think of anyone else who releases as much as he does. i was hoping for more from a kweli/seu jorge collabo.. maybe itll grow on me

>in the last few days ive put all the random tracks i have on
>my hard drive along with official albums i got onto a playlist
>on itunes - over 300 tracks.. 21 albums.. majority of his
>music is good.. i cant think of anyone else who releases as
>much as he does. i was hoping for more from a kweli/seu jorge
>collabo.. maybe itll grow on me

The VAST majority of his product is good

His batting average is actually among the highest in the
game

This the Lesson, though


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

yeh but theres no point arguing with them about it mate.. not one of them could make a better album themselves i guarantee it

>yeh but theres no point arguing with them about it mate.. not
>one of them could make a better album themselves i guarantee
>it

>yeh but theres no point arguing with them about it mate.. not
>one of them could make a better album themselves i guarantee
>it


yet it is frequently seen in music message boards. why?

yo bro you cant act so don't have a negative opinion on his acting
yo bro you cant make sandwiches well so don't get mad when your girl puts the shit you dont' like in yours

just horrible

that being said. i dug the last kweli album. eventually i will sit down and listen to this one

So he's not entirely wrong

Plus, the anti-Kweli arguments are worse and deserve
more of your wrath

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

I don't want to argue about something I haven't heard yet, thats silly

But yes, I do not share the same opinion of the people who have not liked Kweli's past few albums. I have enjoyed most of his material, I think he has a pretty solid catalog. Kweli has only really horribly disapointed me one time: the recent Reflection Eternal album

There is no way you can be objective.

Hate to break it to you, but its true.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

its probably a phase

if this place is so bad why not leave?

>its probably a phase
>
>if this place is so bad why not leave?


*rapid-fire snapping of fingers*


Give and take perspectives

Some earthly, some from the heavens

I'm more like a teacher than a reverend

Never preaching to my brethren



*snaps fingers, re-lights incense*



But this is Lesson, full of men that need mendin'


So when I scan and press send, I don't mean to offend


Just offering a hand to the man at the end


Ebonies and Ivories, maybe we can all be friends






































And maybe you won't be mad.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

You are often off base with your whole 'the lesson loves/hates this' thing

Very rarely do I see any consensus agreement to anything on here.

and this is on top of the fact that I think your lesson manifestos are simply off base to begin with.

>Very rarely do I see any consensus agreement to anything on
>here.


but he will call you mad for pointing out facts like this lol

equates okayplayer with hipster culture...though its not exactly that

but in his mind it is

and thats weird

I think it comes from a disconnection with actual reality, maybe he is too old

or maybe he is younger and just doesn't want to accept said reality lol

no idea

Cut him some slack.

I was counting on having one friend

Don't jump ship

I need this


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

http://www.amazon.com/Simpsons-Complete-Guide-Favorite-Family/dp/B0006V3QAY/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368044294&sr=1-2&keywords=simpsons+episode+guide

: - (

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

In other words, you're a loser.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Kudos for Kweli for keeping at it and not half-assing it like Mos with his music. Unfortunately, he's just not sounding good on most of these songs. He's dropping too many "dad jokes" here (see the Pearl Jam line). Should have cut this down to a decent EP.

...the white delegate has spoken, bow down darkies!

As always, thanks for the incorrect ellipsis usage.

...duke is so white, he looks pink...but continue to teach us! What was your take on the Mos "Black on Both Sides" project?...was it black enough for you? And again, I ask, out of interest, what do you do for a living?

you should have said "duke is so white, he's translucent."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/translucent

All in all, I'm not much of a Black on Both Sides fan.

Per my occupation, I sell herpes medication over the black market to cheating wives. You got any new customers to refer to me?


>...duke is so white, he looks pink...but continue to teach
>us! What was your take on the Mos "Black on Both Sides"
>project?...was it black enough for you? And again, I ask, out
>of interest, what do you do for a living?

You are a funny dude...combine that with a little drive, and you could escape the internet and actually do something productive besides trying to school BLACK people on primarily BLACK music in the condescending manner that you do...Peace and Love....

*Not really.

Also, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/keyboard

and i needed that

god bless yall

I hope it was amusing to read as it was to write.

Glad we could help...Stay Black, it's the cool thing to do...or at least I think it's still all the rage...

...it's not a diss to this brother...it's just a general statement. Stop being so insecure, we accept you for you. I feel no need to attack...calm down, relax...turn down the Slim Thug, loosen up the bandana, and try a little Common (he is still black, just not as angry, and you won't lose any thug points, no one will really know) There is another side to black music, you know this right???

...you stay twisting what people say...it's funny, but to be expected...white men have been doing that for hundreds of years...carry on white chocolate...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2781287&mesg_id=2781287&listing_type=search#2781555

get a room, jeez

Agreed, this needs to stop...but the only way we would get a room is if we were locked down, you know, like all those darkies are/should be...I would make duke a princess, he loves talking sideways over the net, it's easy...but in the real world, he would be church mouse status...

I'll just leave you to your prison-rape fantasies.

>Kudos for Kweli for keeping at it and not half-assing it like
>Mos with his music.

those shitty freestyles of late make it seem like he doesn't really care anymore.

but when and if he drops a new album i'll be there

**Like, really huge fan. And still okay saying that, while many on here for some reason hate the very artists that brought us to the site (Com, Mos, Kwe, etc)

Anyway

Is Mos' catelog really better? Or even to meet you half way, is it so much better its not even close?

Because, off the top-

1. Train of Thought
2. Ecstatic
3. Blackstar
4. BOBS
5. Quality
6. Liberation
7. Eardrum
8. New Danger
9. Beautiful Struggle (this would be a lot higher had they trimmed the fat and kept that Killer Mike track)
10. Write About Now
11. RPM





12. True Magic


13. Gutter Rainbows


Maybe its about even, but I definitely don't think its a clear Mos Def victory. And I'm a stan of dude.

I feel like I'm forgetting one or two releases. I was also going to cheat and include that fist Beautiful Struggle mixtape that had some joints on it, but I won't.

I really do think that many people need to drop their grudge of Kweli. So he's a pr!ck online? Aren't most of us??

>while
>many on here for some reason hate the very artists that
>brought us to the site (Com, Mos, Kwe, etc)

well, first, it's not hate...a lotta time has passed in lives & careers...personally i don't enjoy talib kweli music like i once did...AND THAT'S OK bc im actually NOT upset at what he does bc its HIS ART & he can & should do what he feels...that said i dont have to forcefeed myself the art bc i lived blackstar, RE & Quality...

>Anyway
>
>Is Mos' catelog really better? Or even to meet you half way,
>is it so much better its not even close?



>Because, off the top-
>
>1. Train of Thought
>2. Ecstatic
>3. Blackstar
>4. BOBS
>5. Quality
>6. Liberation
>7. Eardrum
>8. New Danger
>9. Beautiful Struggle (this would be a lot higher had they
>trimmed the fat and kept that Killer Mike track)
>10. Write About Now
>11. RPM
>
>

mos' catalog is better to me bc hes consistentw/ his sound & what hes tryna do...apart from RE, Liberation & Quality (& the beautiful mixtape) i dont see any compelling statements from talib, he makes albums full of songs, not albums in the sense of cohesive projects & WHEN HE DOES notice that there's typically a sidekick involved (Madlib, Mos, HITek, Kanye to an extent on Quality)

>
>
>12. True Magic
>

you dont know how i feel about this widely mocked & dismissed album...

>13. Gutter Rainbows
>
>
>Maybe its about even, but I definitely don't think its a clear
>Mos Def victory. And I'm a stan of dude.
>
>I feel like I'm forgetting one or two releases. I was also
>going to cheat and include that fist Beautiful Struggle
>mixtape that had some joints on it, but I won't.

loved that mixtape, played it tons

>I really do think that many people need to drop their grudge
>of Kweli. So he's a pr!ck online? Aren't most of us??
>

its not a grudge fam, i dont know the dude, but in interviews, online AND IN HIS RHYMES he comes across typically as smug, overly critical & dismissive of others and a fence rider not willing to commit to what he professes in his raps...also, he seems like a very smart dude & i feel he genuinely loves his people

>
>

That initial comment wasn't aimed at you at all, was just a general statement on how **some** seem to approach him.

I don't think his recent output sees his older stuff at all either, I just don't think its as bad as some make it out to be.

I also think overall their catelogs are more even than even I thought.

when it first game out it was faster
looks like it was slowed down to the tune of 45 seconds overall
sounds really lethargic now

ill be subbing out this version for sure

this shit flame.

is weak minded & kind of sad/pitiful

ABOUT WHAT I SAID EITHER.

wasnt nobody tryna argue w/ u anyway u sensitive bitch

kinda pissed me off

dude's opinion.

i like it. Favela Love is my SHIT

or u just bootlegging & spreading links around while claiming to be an unabashed fan of the dude ur stealing from?

What u got to say now? Now keep cryin u bitch ass muhfucka.

hopefully the folks you hooked up with a link will choose to buy it too, if they like it anyway...

you still a lame, generic, bitin' ass motherfucker though, buying a cd won't change that

TO THE NEW TALIB KWELI ALBUM

LEAVE KWELI ALONE!!!!!!!!!

the days where u could intimidate folks from speaking their minds w/ vague empty accusations of being haters are DONE, my lower case g

yall a little too sensitive and note that it was UR BOY who came in thos post on some anti shit, whinin in all caps abt other ppls opinions

This good

Keep it going

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

and always remember that only children get enjoyment put of making ppl mad

And now you're replying to me.

So that's 2 instances where you're trying to engage cats that don't care about your opinion.

Now, nobody is trying to intimidate you or punk you or any of that.

What it does sound like, is you're bringing your own shit into this conversation.

If you got picked on when you were little or now, shit got nothing to do with me.

I just came in here to see what's up with the Talib album.

"I'm sorry if I made you sad." (c) Dame

in this case i replied to this loser's clear response to anyone who dared say anything negative about his boo talib's music...i was involved in this discussion so his post WAS directed at me amongst others, albeit minus the balls of responding directly

weak, bitchmade tactic w/ the intent of negating any criticism as just "lesson hate"

i called him on it, cause there's no reason not to esp. when ive seen him post enough to know his online persona is one of a hoe ass dude, a biter & a follower...

>And now you're replying to me.
>
>So that's 2 instances where you're trying to engage cats that
>don't care about your opinion.

nah, my lower case g, you passively agressively came at me w/o replying directly, now trying to hide the hand u threw the stone w/

i dont know u but that's hoe ass, bitchmade, passive agressive posting at its finest

>Now, nobody is trying to intimidate you or punk you or any of
>that.
>
>What it does sound like, is you're bringing your own shit into
>this conversation.
>
>If you got picked on when you were little or now, shit got
>nothing to do with me.
>
>I just came in here to see what's up with the Talib album.

then why u posting about how kweli "brings em out" instead of the album my lowercase g?

u lying even to urself??



>"I'm sorry if I made you sad." (c) Dame

ditto

>in this case i replied to this loser's clear response to
>anyone who dared say anything negative about his boo talib's
>music...i was involved in this discussion so his post WAS
>directed at me amongst others, albeit minus the balls of
>responding directly
>

I doubt Geah was directly talking to you or challenging you. He might very well be like me and not know shit about you.

His statement was about liking the album and nobody being able to sway him from that stance.

>weak, bitchmade tactic w/ the intent of negating any criticism
>as just "lesson hate"
>
>i called him on it, cause there's no reason not to esp. when
>ive seen him post enough to know his online persona is one of
>a hoe ass dude, a biter & a follower...

You filling another man on a message board gauging his posting patterns? Lol...c'mon.


>>And now you're replying to me.
>>
>>So that's 2 instances where you're trying to engage cats
>that
>>don't care about your opinion.
>
>nah, my lower case g, you passively agressively came at me w/o
>replying directly, now trying to hide the hand u threw the
>stone w/

I was hollering at Geah YOU butted in on some "ooooh I wanna be involved" shit. Nobody wants to involve you though. And thus is making you sad.


>i dont know u but that's hoe ass, bitchmade, passive agressive
>posting at its finest
>
>>Now, nobody is trying to intimidate you or punk you or any
>of
>>that.
>>
>>What it does sound like, is you're bringing your own shit
>into
>>this conversation.
>>
>>If you got picked on when you were little or now, shit got
>>nothing to do with me.
>>
>>I just came in here to see what's up with the Talib album.
>
>then why u posting about how kweli "brings em out" instead of
>the album my lowercase g?
>

Cuz Talib makes cornballs extra mad for some reason which is shown by your heavy interference with others talking about the album.

If you don't fuck with the album, cool. Say what you gotta say and chill. It's only Okayplayer. If somebody doesn't fuck with you, then allow them to not fuck with you.

Lol...I don't wanna build with you on this album, so be out.

passive aggressive stone throw

hidden hands & denial

deflection of blame to opposing party



thanks for the verification, my lowercase g...

Six tracks in and I like what I hear so far. I like Kweli's flexibility over different types of beats.

I bought it, unheard. I hadn't listened to any singles, leaks, etc. so it's all new to me.

So far I'm liking it. But I have to sit through it some more. I listened at the gym which isn't really a fair listen.

I realized what's been annoying me about him. I feel like no matter my mood, I used to be able to play his stuff and enjoy it.

But now, with his seemingly forced identity/trend hoping, he may make good stuff, but I'm not always in the mood to hear it.

"Quality" had a good balance of what I like from him. Conscious stuff, straight spitting stuff, and a little R&B sounding stuff to balance it out. "Eardrum" too to an extent.

That's not a knock on his current output, just my personal tastes. Coming off a bad break up I'm not trying to hear all his R&B stuff right now lol.

It's like when you're chasing styles, you end up doing too much, and your music becomes disposable because it's only relevant to certain situations.

For example, I can like club music when I'm in a club. But I don't listen to the radio because when I'm not in a club I don't want to hear that.

If I felt like dancing, some of his recent stuff would be dope. But when I just have on my headphones walking around NYC, I'm looking for something I can relate to which he used to make more of.

Again, that doesn't mean his recent stuff isn't good. I'm just realizing it's not always for me at this point in my life. His older stuff I felt like I could throw on no matter what I was doing. Still one of my favorite MCs though.

I've only heard Come Here live @Fallon with Bilal =, thought it sounded good

the one with Nelly
the one with Marsha
Upper Echelon

Other than that, this album is VERY solid.

Human Mic
Turnt Up
Come Here
High Life
Hamster Wheel
Rocket Ships
Outstanding

All dope. Most of these songs will work well in his live show.

Didn't really the last four tracks at all. A lot of the stuff before that was pretty damn good. Overall, not as good as Gutter Rainbows, and probably "Eardrum." But certainly nothing to be ashamed of.

Love the RZA joint. Might have been even better if he cut a track or two, thought it dragged towards the end, but overall it's a good listen.

Also gotta give him props for the album booklet, that thing is THICK.

though this one still has some dope cuts. it kinda dissapointed me.....i'd give it like 6-6.5/10

things i loved: "high life" "favela love" "rocket ships"

And I must say that I'm disappointed at the reception that its receiving on here.

I was looking at the "1st half" post and some of the bullshit people were posting in there was sad while this album was noticeably absent.

The only bad song on here is Upper Echelon.

I really don't see Kweli trying to please everyone at all. This is a very soulful hip-hop album and it doesn't accomplish that by sampling soul records.

The album starts off strong as hell from 1-5.

Push Thru with Knedrick is dope.

Hamster Wheel is excellent.

RZA comes through hard.

The Nelly collabo is nice.

The Seu Jorge feature is perfectly sequenced.

And the closer is an actual closer.

Production is right throughout.

Songwriting is strong but I do get the complaint about some of the borderline wack punch lines that Kweli and Com are know to do at times.

The packaging of the album is real nice as well. I'm assuming most people didn't purchase the physical album though. Much more thorough piece of art than Gutter Rainbows was.

I will say this though, this post was just yet another disaster due to the completely ignorant OE who leads a sad existence of a life.

If you want to do a remix to that Miguel joint, I've had a verse that I've been waiting to use that couldn't line up any better!!

I know it will never happen but shit, throwing it out there lol.