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Topic subjectTalk about 'non-existant' music you'd like to hear
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2792861, Talk about 'non-existant' music you'd like to hear
Posted by imcvspl, Tue Apr-02-13 11:29 PM
Interpret this however you want but stick to a sound or sentiment you have yet to find in music. I'll start:

I'd really like to hear music that at its heart is dance based. When you hear it it automatically makes you want to move your feet. But it's a slow build. It pulls you in right away but that's the catch because there's still more to come. This is where it gets tricky though, because I want it to be so infectious you're automatically addicted to it. It's the only thing you want to hear and feel and move to. But then a few minutes in it completely fucks with you by lyrically turning to a level of social introspection that makes you reevaluate yourself. It's a level of introspection that so real you're uncomfortable, almost afraid of it and if you could you would turn it off, but the music already has you moving and you are trapped in its groove for the duration. So much so that even after its done and you've been through the emotional rollercoaster it takes you through you still don't hesitate to play it again.



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2792862, sounds like you're describing everything "IDM" should be
Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Apr-02-13 11:41 PM
2792865, clean material with strong music
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Apr-03-13 12:06 AM
and it reflected having a black president in the white house and it was uplifting,if you had that earth,wind and fire/frankie beverly and maze vibe with the obama's in the white house it would be very moving
2792877, RE: Andrew Bird and Vini Reilly collaboration.
Posted by Austin, Wed Apr-03-13 01:22 AM
Pretty much impossible at this point because of Vini's health, but yeah. . . talk about music that's so beautiful it's indescribable.

And something new from David Axelrod, obviously.

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2792886, RE: Andrew Bird and Vini Reilly collaboration.
Posted by Funkymusic, Wed Apr-03-13 03:21 AM
Andy Stott's music is kind of similar to what you are describing. I think Sepalcure can also do what youre saying being that they are "dance" based first and foremost but i dont think they do the build on the original foundation that you are describing. their music is pretty consistent throughout.
2792888, trap post-punk
Posted by Reuben, Wed Apr-03-13 03:46 AM
instead of post punk ppl taking funk and disco

re-do it taking trap sounds

but proper ironic scathing song lyrics



2792889, ain't you describing this stuff (slo-mo house, disco edit)
Posted by Reuben, Wed Apr-03-13 03:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxKlR-wRRyU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRVOTr1zbE

http://youtu.be/Y7OiTeT7Nas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur83aq0x7Vo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbLRQGJwX4


etc
2792894, Sounds like you're describing Fela's tunes
Posted by ProgressiveSound, Wed Apr-03-13 07:42 AM
2792898, tehehehehehehe
Posted by imcvspl, Wed Apr-03-13 08:01 AM
Press 'reply with quote' on the original post.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
2792899, FTR I wasn't using "dance based" to denote today's 'dance music'
Posted by imcvspl, Wed Apr-03-13 08:02 AM
Not necessarily electronic based, just music that makes you dance.
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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
2792909, a strait up narrative
Posted by stone_phalanges, Wed Apr-03-13 08:38 AM
I would love a rapper that doesn't rap as himself at all similar to doom but even more of a strait narrative. Deltron 3030 is similar to what I'm thinking of but a more coherent stronger narrative, I mean almost like those radio shows they used to have before tv got big but with rapping.
2792928, For some reason Aesop Rock's No Regrets immediately came to mind
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Apr-03-13 09:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0VQEfbMwb4
2793041, i love that song
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Apr-03-13 01:44 PM
2793069, something like brenda's got a baby?
Posted by Selah, Wed Apr-03-13 02:34 PM
trying to grasp what you're getting at
2792920, Prog Reggae.
Posted by Errol Walton Barrow, Wed Apr-03-13 09:05 AM
In a saner world that "Dub Side of the Moon" would have sparked that sub-genre. Just songs to drift and smoke to that are arty and over-wrought at the same time.
2792942, hip-hop sampling African music
Posted by SsenepoD, Wed Apr-03-13 10:27 AM
sort of how Timbaland was raiding Indian archives for his "sound". I remember there was talk of Kanye being inspired by African & potentially putting an album out in that vein (I want to say this was around the time Love Lockdown dropped) but it would be dope for that to be the mainstream sound for a year or so
2792994, Hip hop built from manipulated field recordings
Posted by stylez dainty, Wed Apr-03-13 12:28 PM
With rap vocals that sound like they're field recordings as well, meaning lofi outdoor kind of ambiance, but all of it mixed and chopped up into something hazy yet rhythmic, even if only in the loosest sense of the term.
2793002, what do you mean by field recordings?
Posted by lonesome_d, Wed Apr-03-13 01:12 PM
ambient field recordings?
or field recordings of the Lomax style?


Either one would be interesting. Not sure anyone has tried the previous; a few sample-based artists have gone the latter route, but I don't know that I've hear much that sounds successful (as imcvspl & I have discussed at times).

Here's one that comes kinda close though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPuEHDWGQwY
2793070, Mostly ambient field recordings like you'd find on the Touch label
Posted by stylez dainty, Wed Apr-03-13 02:39 PM
For example:

https://soundcloud.com/experimedia/chris-watson-el-tren-fantasma (you can hear on the fourth segment that he's actually edited the music into a rhythm.

Combined with Lomax type vocals (but not sampled, just recorded primitively).

Here's an example of something that approaches what I'm talking about, but doesn't quite work, although I still find it enjoyable (while others find it an embarrassing mess):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hyhdBiIbMY

The link you had kind of has the opposite effect of what I'm looking for. They're taking field recordings and dragging them into the modern age, where I want the modern stuff (rapping) dragged back into the field recording age.

This is also a recent example of something that approaches what I'm thinking of, too. I'm not necessarily looking for something this absolutely stripped down and real time, but I like the philosophy of it, and the fact that it's a skilled rapper doing it.

http://alpokodon.bandcamp.com/track/all-i-know
2793088, Gotcha
Posted by lonesome_d, Wed Apr-03-13 03:17 PM
>For example:
>
>https://soundcloud.com/experimedia/chris-watson-el-tren-fantasma
>(you can hear on the fourth segment that he's actually edited
>the music into a rhythm.

or edited the random sounds into music?

It's not clear to me that it's edited though ... lots of rhythms come out of machines (like trains). I've beatboxed along to our deskjet printer plenty of times. Poorly, of course.

>Combined with Lomax type vocals (but not sampled, just
>recorded primitively).
>
>Here's an example of something that approaches what I'm
>talking about, but doesn't quite work, although I still find
>it enjoyable (while others find it an embarrassing mess):
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hyhdBiIbMY

I can see what you mean by the primitive recording and can understand why it appeals to you. WEB didn't do much for me though.

>The link you had kind of has the opposite effect of what I'm
>looking for. They're taking field recordings and dragging them
>into the modern age, where I want the modern stuff (rapping)
>dragged back into the field recording age.

hmmm... but the rapping WAS the field recording there. Makes a weird juxtaposition, but I wasn't trying to muddy the waters.

There are several acts that have tried to mix the very old/rootsy with the new, but it's always been remixing old instrumental and vocal stuff with 'beats' (Charlie Chamberlain, Tangle Eye) so yeah, more or less similar to what I posted above from Clothesline Revival.

>This is also a recent example of something that approaches
>what I'm thinking of, too. I'm not necessarily looking for
>something this absolutely stripped down and real time, but I
>like the philosophy of it, and the fact that it's a skilled
>rapper doing it.
>
>http://alpokodon.bandcamp.com/track/all-i-know

Offc mgr in the room right now... will listen later.
2793077, the latest demdike release approaches it
Posted by bearfield, Wed Apr-03-13 02:58 PM
kind of a dirty drum 'n bass, like photek meets actress/andy stott. lots of space between the dusty percussion for droney noise and obscured melodies
2793097, lol why does it sound like sex
Posted by 3d1gg4, Wed Apr-03-13 03:42 PM
>Interpret this however you want but stick to a sound or
>sentiment you have yet to find in music. I'll start:
>
>I'd really like to hear music that at its heart is dance
>based. When you hear it it automatically makes you want to
>move your feet. But it's a slow build. It pulls you in right
>away but that's the catch because there's still more to come.
>This is where it gets tricky though, because I want it to be
>so infectious you're automatically addicted to it. It's the
>only thing you want to hear and feel and move to. But then a
>few minutes in it completely fucks with you by lyrically
>turning to a level of social introspection that makes you
>reevaluate yourself. It's a level of introspection that so
>real you're uncomfortable, almost afraid of it and if you
>could you would turn it off, but the music already has you
>moving and you are trapped in its groove for the duration. So
>much so that even after its done and you've been through the
>emotional rollercoaster it takes you through you still don't
>hesitate to play it again.
>
>
>
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>Big PEMFin H & z's
>"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1
>thing, a musician." © Miles
>
>"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
I get the picture though

for me I already stated it here but I'd like to hear more hip hop/electronic beats incorporating echoes and wordless vocals

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