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2657080, Classic Soul Train Moments/ Thank You Don (Links) Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 02:19 PM
Soul Train is my absolute favorite television show of all time. I have religiously collected ST footage since I copped my first Japanese VHS imports at a mom and pop record shop here in DC 12 years ago. I watch these tapes/DVD's day, noon and night, much to the chagrin of my roommates.
The first episode I have memory of (I'm 34) was #394, from season 11, which aired June 12, 1982. The musical guests were Deniece Williams and Junior. Some of my favorite moments from the series are listed below:
Episode #34/ Aired September 30, 1972 Eddie Kendricks doing an acapella version of "Can I" (song starts at 2:06) http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg69on_eddie-kendricks-interview_music
Episode #39/ Aired November 4, 1972 The Sylvers "Wish That I Could Talk To You" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQg10VVQAdA
Episode #46/ Aired January 13, 1973 Stevie Wonder "Superstition" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjsVWSHw5fQ
Episode #49/ Aired February 10, 1973 James Brown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsVyPAVBzRQ
Episode #56/ Aired April 14, 1973 Aretha Franklin "Rock Steady" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOj9lPbp1I4
Episode #60/ Aired May 12, 1973 Don going down the ST line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFBo5hHMUZM
Episode #69/ Aired September 1, 1973 Mandrill "Hang Loose" (one of thee greatest musical performances on the show) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnwKaI1im4Q
Episode #77/ Aired November 3, 1973 Michael debuting his robot during a performance of "Dancing Machine" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--w9u0S2Dho
Episode #89/ Aired February 16, 1974 Marvin "Distant Lover" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9BSjRCN0cQ
Episode #93/ Aired April 6, 1974 Al Green "Jesus Is Waiting" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CslaDEc2PS8
Episode #105/ Aired June 29, 1974 Sly & The Family Stone "Thank You" (I was pissed when this performance was edited when included in the Time-Life Soul Train DVD box set) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ptrc2cWRxU
Episode #108/ Aired September 14, 1974 James Brown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wztjtD4i02k
Episode #111/ Aired October 5, 1974 Michael Jackson "If I Don't Love You This Way" (when Motown scrapped plans for a 1974 solo album from Mike this cut was added to the J5 Dancing Machine LP) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo4gMpPJu-E
Episode #119/ Aired December 14, 1974 (this is running neck and neck with James Brown's '73 appearance as the best episode of the series ever) The Isley Brothers "Summer Breeze" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRL6Q1PTLJ0
Episode #120/ Aired December 21, 1974 Jose Felicino and Minnie Riperton were guests http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QUWMDv940 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbMw2fIL_e0&feature=fvst
Episode #125/ Aired January 25, 1975 The Lockers (before Fred Berry and Toni Basil left) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpkkPXFfm68
Episode #135/ Aired April 5, 1975 Al Green "Love" (specifically the drum solo that starts at 4:50 in the clip below) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYooJOWH_60
Episode #141/ Aired May 17, 1975 Elton John "Bennie & The Jets" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vLlpJc9mW0
Episode #152/ Aired October 4, 1975 The Pointer Sisters "Sleeping Alone" http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoaft_Xf.html
I'll post some more later. Feel free to share your ST memoires as well.
RIP Don Cornelius
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2657086, Wonderful thread Brother Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-02-12 02:31 PM
i love the Jacksons episodes, Al Green, Marvin gaye, Smokey RObinson, Aretha Franklin, Barry White,Commodores, War,Tower of Power,Sly and the Family Stone, and everyone else you mentioned
however my personal ones are
Minnie Riperton right before she died and that something else to have her on soultrain. just was emotional 1)
Rick James Tributes and there was nothing like Rick James and Don Cornelious going in the round they truly had a vibe with one another and talk about Irony because yesterday was Rick's birthday. anytime RIck James was on there that was something else. 2)
the Whispers, Shalamar and O'Bryan because those were special for Don and those were acts he really went to Bat for. 3)
Richard Pryor this was a trip when he was on there. my uncle was working on soultrain during this time and he told me how cool Pryor and Pam Grier were and the great times had by all. 4)
Marvin Gaye,Smokey Robinson and Don all playing Basketball on the stage classic episode. 5)
a white act performing on soul Train meant you were being felt and that was a special honor there. Gino,Lady T,Elton, Bowie. 6)
Soul train history books was always a highlight for me always enjoyed that. 7)
Stevie Wonder specials on there always meant so much. 8)
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2657090, RE: Wonderful thread Brother Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 02:38 PM
>i love the Jacksons episodes, Al Green, Marvin gaye, Smokey >RObinson, Aretha Franklin, Barry White,Commodores, War,Tower >of Power,Sly and the Family Stone, and everyone else you >mentioned > >however my personal ones are > >Minnie Riperton right before she died and that something >else to have her on soultrain. just was emotional 1) > >Rick James Tributes and there was nothing like Rick James >and Don Cornelious going in the round they truly had a >vibe with one another and talk about Irony because yesterday >was Rick's birthday. anytime RIck James was on there that was >something else.
Agreed. Rick always took control during the interview segments and all Don could do was look and listen lol.
2) > > >the Whispers, Shalamar and O'Bryan because those were special >for Don and those were acts he really went to Bat for. 3) > >Richard Pryor this was a trip when he was on there. my uncle >was working on soultrain during this time and he told me how >cool Pryor and Pam Grier were and the great times had by all.
I remember when Richard Rryor guest hosted and was inerviewing Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes. That was a blast, lol.
>4) > >Marvin Gaye,Smokey Robinson and Don all playing Basketball on >the stage classic episode. 5) > >a white act performing on soul Train meant you were being >felt and that was a special honor there. Gino,Lady T,Elton, >Bowie. 6) > > >Soul train history books was always a highlight for me always >enjoyed that. 7) > >Stevie Wonder specials on there always meant so much. 8) > > >
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657098, Question... Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 02:45 PM
Does anytone know why neither Earth, Wind & Fire or Parliament/Funkadelic appeared on the show in their prime? ?uest explained to me in a Soul Train post years ago why Prince never made any appearances in his heyday but I've always wondered about the first 2.
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657113, EWF i believe it was about crossing over Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-02-12 02:56 PM
i mean they did tv shows,etc.. but they wanted to be bigger and perhaps management told them not to be doing no soul train.
believe me there are other acts who aovided soul train for that very reason especially when cross over was king and queen.
as for P FUnk, i wonder if they didn't feel they fitted that scene.
yeah Clinton and Crew were part of the sound of Black America back in the day, however Soul Train had a Lushy laid back manner and vibe and I don't know if they felt like they belong there.
i might be reaching but seeing P Funk with Wolfman jack on the Midnight special or something considered risque seemed more in line.
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2657117, it was the playing live v. lip-syncing thing I thing.... Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Feb-02-12 03:05 PM
when P-Funk was at the height of their success....by then Soul train wasn't doing the live performance thing...the major ones..your Al Green...James Brown Sly..etc all those were before P-Funk was huge
although the "Funkadelic without George" line up did appear on soul train once.... and even maybe P-Funk may have been too racy for Don's taste
As Don said in the documentary putting on the live performances cost a whole lot of money..which is why they stopped doing it eventually..
EWF had a pretty large set up by the time they were real big so it may have been a cost effective thing..
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2657126, blame Barry White Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-02-12 03:17 PM
when Barry brought his whole love unlimted set and wanted it to be live that all added up and back then Barry had a dime section of Orange county playing for him live.
that was kinda the end of the live set on soultrain.
Warren that is also true about Don he liked a certain type of act and certain other acts he wouldn't give the time of day.
he was a picky cat like that. My uncle told me alot about working in that enviroment and how some things went down and that was one of them and also you better not do Bandstand and ask to be on Soultrain if you were Black.
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2657128, RE: it was the playing live v. lip-syncing thing I thing.... Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 03:19 PM
#Edit I see you beat me to it Maxxx, lol
Warren, I was thinking the same thing (concerning cost effectiveness of lip-synching) but I saw this Barry White and Love Unlimited Orchestra appearance from '75 where Barry brought damn near a 30 piece orchestra. Who knows, perhaps Barry footed the bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQio2iCfnh4
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657162, plus remember that there were other venues to perform live on tv Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Feb-02-12 04:04 PM
back then...
Don Kirshner's Rock Concert...... The Midnight Special..... Mike Douglass show.. (Mike had James Brown and Sly Stone co-host an entire weeks worth of shows with him back then)
Not to say more successful artists thought of soul train as lesser..but from a cost effective point of view with Soul Train....EWF or Cameo could perform live elsewhere where it was affordable to do so.
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2657390, Brother Warren i remember Mike Dougless turning the set Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-02-12 10:16 PM
over to them and also Dinah Shore having Marvin Gaye and other R&B acts on her show, etc.. and all those shows make my cross over point. not saying they weren't about loving R&B,based shows etc..
however appearing on Mike Dougless, Dinah Shore, Midnight Special, etc.. other shows it was clearly a bigger market and the record companys put money in them for that pop look.
Cameo wasn't going to be on any of those shows except Soul train and Midnight Special until about 84 onward.
early Cameo was a Black thang just like the Bar Kays and Con Funk Shun.
back in the day you had funk bands that were a SOuthern thing and then you had bands geared toward the east coast,etc..
Earth,Wind and Fire after thats the way of the world had access to it all and the Irony of that is that the film to thats the way of the world went Burnt Popcorn, but the soundtrack was huge and arguably the most Underrated soundtrack ever IMO.
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2657133, RE: EWF i believe it was about crossing over Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 03:24 PM
Maxxx, I would've thought the same thing about P-Funk but Bootsy's Rubber Band was on there in '77 or '78. I guess it's similar to Prince letting The Time get booked for the show but not appearing himself. However, his reasons for not appearing I'm sure are quite different from George's.
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657386, well don knew about George CLinton from way back when Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-02-12 10:11 PM
because CLinton was a staff writer for Motown, however the imagery,etc.. made Don do a wait and see and then when P Funk hit and it was Bootsy turn then he said cool.
Don was funny about the Funk because he had strange take and dig towards Rick James until was so hot that Don had to bow down and kiss the Punk Funk Pinky Ring.
Don was about the straight and Narrow. though he took risks, Don was modeling aspects of Soul train off of Motown. asembly style in image and music and content.
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2657103, Mo' links Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 02:47 PM
Episode #118/ Aired December 7, 1974 LaBelle "Lady Marmalade" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWHkIz5BomA
Episode #161/ Aired December 6, 1975 Average White Band "School Boy Crush" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvJ5f6uvMGY
Episode #162/ Aired December 13, 1975 Rufus Ft. Chaka Khan "Sweet Thing" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksRrVlqRjKE
Episode #165/ Aired January 3, 1976 David Bowie "Fame" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW9x7OkwpxA
Episode #168/ Aired January 24, 1976 Jackson 5 "All I Do Is Think Of You" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQxZS9NxHQ
Episode #217/ Aired April 2, 1977 Roy Ayers "Searching" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvccotKOvIo
Episode #222/ Aired May 7, 1977 Marvin Gaye "Got To Give It Up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75BlzjqGVcc
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2657270, this might be the greatest post in Lesson history. Posted by Binlahab, Thu Feb-02-12 06:49 PM
thanks bro
im still waiting on Part II to that classic mixtape u put together in the stone age
do or die
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2657273, good lord i cant decide which clip is funkiest! Posted by Binlahab, Thu Feb-02-12 06:53 PM
ea. one is funkier then the last...funk overload
do or die
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2657274, RE: Classic Soul Train Moments/ Thank You Don (Links) Posted by Thanes1975, Thu Feb-02-12 06:53 PM
Dope thread.....thank playa!
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2657276, James Brown doing Superbad with a chick dancing on stage... Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Thu Feb-02-12 07:02 PM
Seems like she's doing some kind of robot at times, fun stuff:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLDaQ1VhFM
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2657335, RE: James Brown doing Superbad with a chick dancing on stage... Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 08:43 PM
That would be Damita Jo Freeman. I think she's the best female dancer that's ever graced that dance floor. Here she is dancing with Joe Tex. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qT4zTv_vVY
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2674271, oh wow...i never knew her name. she's dope. Posted by MISTA MONOTONE, Fri Mar-16-12 01:44 AM
>That would be Damita Jo Freeman. I think she's the best >female dancer that's ever graced that dance floor.
i agree. she turned it OUT w/JB!
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2657426, RE: James Brown doing Superbad with a chick dancing on stage... Posted by Getyohandouttamypocket, Fri Feb-03-12 12:30 AM
I came in here to post this.
Also, she was in the film Private Benjamin.
Thanks for love Don!
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2657280, ok, JB in 74 takes the Funk crown. nm Posted by Binlahab, Thu Feb-02-12 07:04 PM
do or die
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2657301, agreed Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu Feb-02-12 07:47 PM
>damn!
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2657334, RE: ok, JB in 74 takes the Funk crown. nm Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 08:41 PM
*Edit* Oops, posted in wrong spot
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657367, Some mo' from JB's '74 appearance Posted by BootyGreen, Thu Feb-02-12 09:29 PM
Don Cornelius, James Brown, Al Sharpton interview (1974) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-ByEzJ7qc
Hell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8IBW__SHCo
Papa Don't Take No Mess & My Thang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKeY88YLBUU&feature=related
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657284, i was waiting for this post Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu Feb-02-12 07:15 PM
good shit
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"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
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2657371, Rick and Teena on Soul Train Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Feb-02-12 09:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4w2wOtKXMQ
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2657658, Maze Ft. Frankie Beverly "While I'm Alone" Posted by BootyGreen, Fri Feb-03-12 02:14 PM
http://youtu.be/dHMbOaodOjA
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657665, sweet Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Fri Feb-03-12 02:34 PM
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"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
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2657662, Run-DMC "Proud To Be Black" Posted by BootyGreen, Fri Feb-03-12 02:17 PM
http://youtu.be/JYCcYvPfzOk
_______________________________________ "I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick." - Joe Jackson
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2657736, Did mighty mighty own the soul train??? Posted by revolution75, Fri Feb-03-12 05:22 PM
Or strokety stroke??
Joking with stroke but it did get lots of play lol
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2674215, RE: Classic Soul Train Moments/ Thank You Don (Links) Posted by delariean, Thu Mar-15-12 09:50 PM
Well....somebody finally found the Soul Train performance of Foster Sylvers Misdemeanor...warning...low volume...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck1p-WiDkD8
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