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2302158, growth at times requires a broadening of definition
Posted by imcvspl, Sun Jan-17-10 02:07 PM
>Well I can see why Nosaj Thing is not considered Hip Hop. From
>what I have heard, there are way too many electronica
>elements, sounds and production techniques employed to
>classify that music as Hip Hop. The sound is just way too
>trippy and not in a soulful way at all.

Nosaj Thing is hip-hop. He's not just hip-hop, but he is hip-hop. One day hip-hop will be able to embrace it (especially if he goes from remixing rappers to working with them). Fortunately he doesn't HAVE to get the full embrace to keep doing his thing.

>As far as Exile goes, though I like some of what I have heard,
>I'm not hearing anything too different from what Dilla was
>doing when he was alive. Unfortunately, that is the case with
>alot of these cats who proudly claim they were influenced by
>Dilla. They don't seem to be building on his legacy at all. To
>my ears, many of them are only imitating and copying...often
>times in a very bad and mediocre way. I'm not hearing the
>progression within the Hip Hop context at all.

There is newness that Exile brings to the table, and a handful of others. I don't see him in the imitators category at all. The fact that he also has live chops alone is an addition. But technique wise he's got somethings. Getting the average fan to talk about them is another story. I'd articulate them here, but not without listening again to point out specifics. Unfortunately can't do that right now.

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