They are more marginal "singer-songwriters" than folk IMO. I'd like to see a modern day and trendy equivalent to Pentangle: dudes who play their asses off with cool arrangements and instrumentation and shit. Unfortunately, stuff like that isn't compatible with indie-/post-punk values that seems to praise mediocrity in musicianship, singing etc. above everything which is strange because those genres were originally the playground for excentrics with killer ideas. Whatever, old man rant over. If anyone can recommend some stuff that is NOT Bon Iver-style whiny and miserable dude with guitar stuff, let me know...