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13492765, RE: i mean...
Posted by IslaSoul, Thu Oct-12-23 10:14 PM
>no disrespect, im not looking to fight over this cause i am a
>jew who is anti-zionism, but your saying:

>"israel is a zionist, fascist and terrorist state and has
>nothing to do with Judaism or the Jewish people."
> is obviously wrong. it clearly does. zionism just isn't
>reflective of all jews in the diaspora and within israel
>subscribing to it. it is the notion and movement that the
>jewish people should have a land for jewish people in their
>"ancestral homeland" (i give zero fucks about fighting over
>THIS land because then it devolves into a back and forth
>arguing about who was there first, who there next, how did
>they get next, who got it after that, and on and on, but who
>got kicked out of that land most recently is the biggest loser
>at the moment)

Jewish people were living in Palestine before Israel.
Israel is a white supremacist project sponsored by the United States & Europe. There's enough pictures about the evolution from 1947 til today showing how Israel systematically took and still takes land from the Palestinian people to the point they were pushed into the open air prison that is Gaza.

>"genocidal settler-colonists."
>who is this describing? when? which time? just curious.

It is describing Israel, its inception from 1947 onwards
The IDF, the enabling & actively supporting nations

>
>"There's a lot of (mis)information circulating, i'm trying to
>follow trusted accounts & news outlets, but the israelian
>propaganda machine is ruthless."
>isrealian isnt really a word, just israeli

Thank you for correcting that

>"I'm fully in solidarity with and for the total freedom and
>liberation of the Palestinian people. Their resistance is
>legit and legal."

>-good we agree. hamas is not reflective of the palestinian
>people, and is a terorrist organization. this is not a
>deflection from your point, its just the point right now
>because hamas tortured 1000+ people indiscriminately in israel
>this weekend. the palestinians as a people did not do that or
>endorse it. just as the majority of israelis protested and
>despise and called for the demise and imprisonment of
>netenyahu. the jewish people do not call for what is happening
>to palestinians just as i hope and know the palestinian people
>do not pray for the destruction of jewish people.

Yea, let's not forget the systematic and always present torture and violence towards the Palestinian people spanning decades. Also I'm not condoning torture, it's a very clear war crime.

>"Also there are no innocent civilians except children in a
>still expanding settler-colonist state. These people know very
>well what they're doing."
>-im sorry, and i know this is massively emotional, but i think
>the media your consuming has poisoned you. this is an
>inflammatory and deeply troubling thing to think let alone say
>out loud. please understand this is unhealthy.

Yea no, again, Israel is an actively expanding settler & apartheid state. Israeli settlers actively & violently take land and housing from the Palestinian people. There's no innocence to be found there. They need to leave. And I'm not talking about the Jewish people here. There's a huge difference. Israel needs to be abolished.

It's been intense to see all these terrorist nations (united states, majority of european nations, australia) back Israel and shows once again how violenty white supremacy will protect its interests at all times.