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13337080, High School Newspaper does puff piece on student who does Porn
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 09:17 AM
I heard about the piece from this Atlantic article.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/high-school-porn-stars-cry-help/590986/

I read the article and was wondering what type of fuckery is this? Why would they allow the article to published (bullshit free speech arguments aside)?

Then I read the story here

https://bruinvoice.net/6014/feature/risky-business-starting-a-career-in-the-adult-entertainment-industry/

And when I saw her picture and saw that she was black I was like, oh, I see it. I just think if it were a white girl, they would have found a way to squash the story and keep this girls name out the press. Because she was black, some folks idea of progressivism allowed them to put the first amendment issue ahead of the girl at the heart of the story. And when you read the story it's clear this girl is in a baaad place.

I hate it and folks who defend it make progressivism and feminism look bad.





**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337082, Why does she think a 2.8 is bad as a Freshman?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-06-19 09:27 AM
It’s not the best but damn. She made it sound like she was a D student.

and why the hell is she paying rent? Who does that to a HS student? I guess if it’s other teens it kinda makes sense but if it’s a friend with parents that’s fucked up.

She sounds so young and dumb too.
13337087, Funny, I wondered the same thing about the grades.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 09:54 AM
Didn't seem that bad to me.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337102, Yeah, I don't even think that would keep someone out of college
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jun-06-19 10:17 AM
At least a local public university
13337122, I know right... ain't nothin wrong with average lol.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jun-06-19 11:04 AM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13337084, she need to get on that IG thot/onlyfans wave.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-06-19 09:39 AM
13337089, I don’t understand what’s wrong with the article
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jun-06-19 09:58 AM
We stigmatize a lot of things because ... reasons?
13337098, Because Porn is a f'd up industry for....
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 10:09 AM
an essentially homeless 18-year-old with Self-Esteem issues to be working in.

It only took 6 posts I see.




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337103, You’re doing a bit of extrapolating and also some diagnosing
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jun-06-19 10:20 AM
But let’s just skip past that
Does not talking about things make them better?
I was 25 when I decided I’d never do heroin
I don’t like needles, I don’t like overdose risk ... but I could see a world where heroin could’ve been something to try
Wanna know what stopped me? I read a book called Dandy in the Underworld
And the man described his CONSTANT constipation due to heroin and that right there sold me
Nothing else could’ve been as persuasive, I needed something tangible
This young woman will either live a tragic life or something relatively normal, but she’ll be free to learn from it and not totally compartmentalize it
And the people in her school will be able to demystify another peer that peruses something most only speak about in hushed tones.

This isn’t advocating porn
This is saying stigmatizing things hasn’t proven effective of a way of dealing with things.
13337212, The highschool article is 100% promoting her choice.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 03:04 PM
And the reason we know this in the most basic terms is because we all know that her Pornhub following will increase dramatically because of the publicity around the newspaper deciding to publish the story.


And I am not at all saying that we should hide the fact that an 18 year old is doing porn. I think it's definitely something that should be exposed to young people. However, I don't think the 17 year old reporter who wrote the story is anywhere near equipped to handle such a weighty topic. And you can tell based on the article that it doesn't nearly explore the issues that are obviously clearly on display in the article. The school newspaper is way in over its head and the result is that it published and article that does indeed glamourize to some extent her choices.

I don't kow the book Dandy in the Underworld, but I would wager the adult who wrote from their own experience did the work of going into the depths and ugly moments of drug use (like the constipation).




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337218, You want a nuanced take on porn
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jun-06-19 03:16 PM
The writer, editor, and academic advisor wanted a nuanced take on a human.
13337226, Whet? Where did you see a nuanced take on a human?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 03:48 PM


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337227, Don’t do this man. This is not an adult.
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jun-06-19 03:53 PM
It’s an 18 year old, being written about in a student paper
They have limited interesting things and limited life definition ... it’s not condemning her nor extrapolating her extremely brief life to mean more
Nuance.
13337845, Again, there is an important story that should be told....this ain't it.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 10:13 AM
It ain't nuanced. It looks like every high school profile of a kid talking about their future careers (She's following her Dreams!"), except this article fails to mention how dangerous the choice she is making. She is entering an industry predominated by mental abuse, drug use, human trafficking and suicide. But the article doesn't mention that.

The story doesn't decrease her liklihood of being bullied or exploited, it increases it.

I get the idea of not shaming sex workers but this article glorifies it in a dangerous way.


>It’s an 18 year old, being written about in a student
>paper
>They have limited interesting things and limited life
>definition ... it’s not condemning her nor extrapolating her
>extremely brief life to mean more
>Nuance.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337136, RE: Because Porn is a f'd up industry for....
Posted by Damali, Thu Jun-06-19 12:01 PM
>an essentially homeless 18-year-old with Self-Esteem issues
>to be working in.

they arrive in NYC & Hollywood every day to become actors and actresses, singers, dancers etc. and?

>It only took 6 posts I see.
>

and it only took 1 post for you to show how uninformed and unoriginal you are.

d
13337228, I don't even know what you are saying here (and am not sure you know)
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 04:02 PM
>>an essentially homeless 18-year-old with Self-Esteem issues
>>to be working in.
>
>they arrive in NYC & Hollywood every day to become actors and
>actresses, singers, dancers etc. and?
>

What does this even mean or have to do with anything?



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337166, That kinda depends on who you're working for
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Jun-06-19 01:00 PM
With the rise of cam sites and online store s that allow you to sell your on material there's more options for making money without working outside producers
13337318, it'd be better if the HS newspaper covered safe, reputable industries
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Jun-07-19 11:47 AM
like football.

they wouldn't harm their employees and lie about it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13337587, huh. buddy suddenly has no energy to discuss HS newspapers
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jun-10-19 03:27 PM
promoting industries that are inherently unsafe.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13337135, you are the WRONG person to make this post
Posted by Damali, Thu Jun-06-19 11:59 AM
the only other thing i will say is feminism is protective of and inclusive of sex workers. period.

if you don't understand that, you don't understand feminism. talk about some shit you actually know about.

d

13337189, Please, tell us more the one Point of View all of Feminism has on Porn?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 01:50 PM
I wouldn't even refer to myself as a feminist but I know enough about feminism to know that there are too many difference voices in the movementto try to argue that the movement as a monolith would say that it is a good thing that this girl is doing porn. (Sheesh I even added an article by a prominent woman essayist making thay very point).

And you are making my point, if you are trying to argue that this girl doing porn is a good thing that should be promoted by the school newspaper in the name of feminism, then you are making feminisn look bad. I say that not as a feminist, but someone from the outside looking in. It feels like peak White Woman Feminism to promote this girl as a sex worker damn well knowing the people who promote her would never let their daughters do it.

I would also say glamourizing sex work to high schoolers is the opposite of being protective of sex workers but whatever.


BTW, why in particular am I the wrong person? Do we really want to get into taking personal shots?


>the only other thing i will say is feminism is protective of
>and inclusive of sex workers. period.
>
>if you don't understand that, you don't understand feminism.
>talk about some shit you actually know about.
>
>d
>
>


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337220, Soon as she brought up Feminism.. lol
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-06-19 03:23 PM
That WWW

white womenz world
13337233, Check and mate lol
Posted by isaaaa, Thu Jun-06-19 05:16 PM

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
13337623, I said what I said. Debate yourself.
Posted by Damali, Mon Jun-10-19 05:38 PM
13337153, Welp
Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Thu Jun-06-19 12:41 PM
If she wasn't getting enough page views on Pornhub before, she sure will now.
13337164, Initially it's alarming to hear about a HIGH Schooler in porn
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Jun-06-19 12:58 PM
Just because of the idea of a minor doing a sex work

I'm hoping she was actually 18 when she started (most 18 year olds look like little kids to me, but if that's where we're setting the age of consent then it is what it is)

The writing in this article is overdramatic as hell, I'm not understanding their take about acceptance of porn somehow being a right wing position despite recent efforts by Republicans to get pornography classified as a public health crisis and stuff like SESTA actively making life more dangerous for sex workers
13337180, I thought the writing was bland
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-06-19 01:28 PM
Typical HS newspaper bland.

Still think it’s a terrible idea.

I’m sure there will be more now that this one is out.

13337187, Not the HS paper article
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Jun-06-19 01:40 PM
The one from the Atlantic
13337221, Damn.. lol.
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-06-19 03:24 PM
13337176, I wouldn’t want this type of article in my kids HS newspaper
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-06-19 01:24 PM
A lot of kids will read $475 in a few hours or free trips to San Fran and think shit is sweet.

13337178, Yeah I have to question the wisdom of the faculty advisor
Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Thu Jun-06-19 01:27 PM
Who greenlit this article
13337181, I remember hearing about the battle over this article.
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-06-19 01:30 PM
A lot of people tried to stop it from being printed.

13337834, my advisor would've kicked whoever pitched this mess off the paper
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jun-12-19 09:29 AM
im not saying this aint a newsworthy story, but a damn HS paper shouldn't be covering this. its a terrible look and that "advisor" is gonna catch a fuckload of heat for it.
13337182, Sallie Mae more predatory and illusionary
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jun-06-19 01:31 PM
I’m only half joking
13337462, are kids really that dumb?
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Jun-10-19 09:07 AM
I'm living that single childfree life. So clueless here


This is the most sex positive and sex educated generation. Id like to think most kids know what that money entails
13337238, There's value in the article. It doesn't have to be a referendum on pron
Posted by GOMEZ, Thu Jun-06-19 06:19 PM
it's a high school profile of one of their students. You know every one in the school already knew she was working in the adult industry to the point where they're probably sharing vids and pics, and everyone had their little opinions. So the student journalist who decided to interview her gave her a voice and humanized her. Like, yo this is who you're talking about, and here's the facts from her point of view.

It didn't seem like a 'puff piece' that encouraged pornography to me. She still has to work part time as a dish washer, and she got ripped off and other grimey shit. She was just talking about her life and her experience. I'm pretty fine with that.

I'm not 'pro pron' but i also don't think there's any sense in making this girl hide who she is, or saying that there's nothing to learn from another person's pretty unique experience.

Also for the 'what about the kids' crowd, if your daughter would do pron based off this article, you already fucked up real bad as a parent.





13337243, This article ruins her chance of ever having a "normal" life.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jun-06-19 09:21 PM
This shit could have been some stuff that was just only gossiped about in her high school, but now, thanks to the article, her name will forever be associated with porn...even though it seems the most she has done so far is send some nude pictures and strip. What do you think the likelihood is that an 18 year old who decided to strip and send nudes will regret one day that she became a national news stories because her high school news paper wrote an article about her being a porn actress?

This is where progressivism doesnt meet common sense. I think there is a simple test to figure out whether folks are being TOO progressive, just ask yourself, would I be advocating so hard for this if it were my own child?


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337246, bruh, porn follows you no matter what
Posted by GOMEZ, Thu Jun-06-19 10:32 PM
also as far as the students knew when it was just going to be a local story. Then a bunch of fuck wads blew it up and tied it to agendas - either pro or anti. I don't blame the article for that - the internet can blow up any dumb thing. It's also doesn't diminish the value of sharing experiences.

Belle Knox was doing her thing to pay for school and got outed. Might as well control your own narrative and put the facts on the table.

Plus what's a 'normal' life any more. The stigma of porn is still there i guess, but it isn't what it used to be. Whether this story is a positive or negative for her remains to be seen. Porn is full of pitfalls and isn't the road i would choose for this girl, but i also wouldn't make her hide in shame. This way she's at least free to exist as who she is, without hiding or worrying about being found out.

13337259, A story about a high school kid doing porn wasn't going to go viral?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Jun-07-19 07:27 AM
And again, she hasn't done porn yet. She sold some nudes and maybe stripped. The vast majority of girls who do that never have their real name associated with that stuff.

If this girl had a parent who gave a damn about her, this story would never be printed.




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337316, who knows what goes viral? it was an interview w/a student
Posted by GOMEZ, Fri Jun-07-19 11:42 AM
who had a pretty unique experience. To me that's worthy of an interview/story - especially in the way it could serve to humanize her.

>If this girl had a parent who gave a damn about her, this
>story would never be printed.

If this girl had a parent who gave a shit she probably wouldn't have wound up selling nudes and auditioning for pron in the first place. She's legally an adult now, though.

Seems like you and i are running into a difference in values/philosphy, though. You think it's better to silence her for her protection, and I think it's better to let her have a voice and share her struggles. Neither route is perfect or without consequences, though.



13337322, I didn't share it.
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Jun-07-19 12:08 PM
the only person here who thought this was worth sharing is...wait you.

just you.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13337282, why are you spreading this story?
Posted by mista k5, Fri Jun-07-19 09:33 AM
this site is the only place ive come across it.
13337765, Negro it's in the Atlantic. Just cause it doesn't pop up in your IG feed
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-11-19 03:50 PM
don't mean people aren't talking about it.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337768, two separate things my man
Posted by mista k5, Tue Jun-11-19 04:04 PM
1. you seem to be saying that her situation shouldnt be given light yet you are spreading the story giving it more light. potentially exposing her to more people. ive done similar before, i see a story about something that i dont understand. that i dont think people should be spending time then i go and forward it or make a post like what is this???? then i realize maybe i dont need to be spreading this.

2. me being oblivious to this story is just my experience. i dont know how many other people in this post have seen this story outside of this post. i still havent. i check google news quite often during work and havent seen this on there once. i see so many headlines that make me shake my head on there too. again, this is just my experience though.


secondary comment on 1, i do think it is a good thing for articles to be more considerate about the things they post. to make sure they share more information that could help people in tough situations. that being said i have not read either of the articles you posted so i cant speak on the merit on any of this. just what has been posted in this thread.
13337825, My G. Maybe 20 people visit this website daily. This argument is silly.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 09:00 AM
The Atlantic has a circulation in the millions. I am not arguing that her story shouldn't be spread because the story is already out there. It's already too late. The horse is out the gate.
Every person (employer, potential person dating her) who ever googles her real name will find these stories even if she regrets these choices and one day wants to put this all behind her. It doesn't matter that the few people who visit this site don't read the Atlantic (shocker) but alot of influential and smart people do.


So now that the damage is done I think the important thing to do at this point is question the decision making of putting her story out there and would they have done this to a white kid.

My goal is for people to see what was done to her was wrong (which folks can't seem to agree on) and hope that it never happens again.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337830, have you written to the hs newspaper?
Posted by mista k5, Wed Jun-12-19 09:26 AM
whats their response?

i can see your argument that the newspaper exploited her for...okay im not sure what the hs newspaper gains but i can see how the story might not be a good thing for her.

it was brave of her to speak on this though. what consequences will this have on her future? i wouldnt know. i dont think its automatically negative. did atlantic just do a "look at the story this hs did" kind of article or was it critiquing the hs article?

i would expect the atlantic to be much more"responsible" than a hs newspaper. i dont know how well managed hs newspapers typically are and how much adult filtering there is.

regarding the white vs black thing, i dont know. i would need to dig into it more. i get where youre coming from though, it would not be surprising if they treated a white girl doing the same differently.
13337840, Why would I write the newspaper. It's done. Many people before
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 09:55 AM
me have more eloquently criticized the newspaper (there was a lawsuit I think) including the atlantic article (just read it dawg), don't ask me to summarize.

I am sure the author of the article will put it in her college application the struggle she went with trying to publish the article. I think the school didn't really have a lot of choice about publishing based on first amendment stuff (i think they tried to not publish it). At any rate, I am exhausted by the topic and ready to move on. My big take away from this post is that none of the people defending the publishing of the article can articulate why this is a net positive for this girl or whether they would want all this for their own daughter.

It may be brave of her to do the story, but a lot of brave stuff is dumb to do and doesn't help people in the long run.

Im out.


>whats their response?
>
>i can see your argument that the newspaper exploited her
>for...okay im not sure what the hs newspaper gains but i can
>see how the story might not be a good thing for her.
>
>it was brave of her to speak on this though. what consequences
>will this have on her future? i wouldnt know. i dont think its
>automatically negative. did atlantic just do a "look at the
>story this hs did" kind of article or was it critiquing the hs
>article?
>
>i would expect the atlantic to be much more"responsible" than
>a hs newspaper. i dont know how well managed hs newspapers
>typically are and how much adult filtering there is.
>
>regarding the white vs black thing, i dont know. i would need
>to dig into it more. i get where youre coming from though, it
>would not be surprising if they treated a white girl doing the
>same differently.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337634, and what exactly is a normal life? we don't all want that anyway.
Posted by Damali, Mon Jun-10-19 08:01 PM
>This shit could have been some stuff that was just only
>gossiped about in her high school, but now, thanks to the
>article, her name will forever be associated with porn.

and some people are ok with that. It's also ok to be ok with that.

even
>though it seems the most she has done so far is send some nude
>pictures and strip. What do you think the likelihood is that
>an 18 year old who decided to strip and send nudes will regret
>one day that she became a national news stories because her
>high school news paper wrote an article about her being a porn
>actress?

people regret lots of things about their teen years. So?

You do also realize that the world is a big place? That not everyone everywhere thinks the way you do, right? I mean, you viewpoint on this is very specific and narrow and while it may be the mainstream where you come from, her life is not doomed by any means.



>This is where progressivism doesnt meet common sense. I think
>there is a simple test to figure out whether folks are being
>TOO progressive, just ask yourself, would I be advocating so
>hard for this if it were my own child?

Bruh trust me when I tell you that "would i let my child do this?" isn't always the best moral compass lol . you clearly haven't met my mother LOL

d
13337643, the girl's 18. she can join the military and get her body blown apart
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jun-10-19 11:40 PM
but she can't have an article written about the way she makes money?

in fact, if she joined the military and died, there'd be an article written about her that *actually would* glorify her choices and encourage her classmates to follow her.

but buddy wouldn't have a problem with that because white supremacists wouldn't tell him he should.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13337778, omg exactly.
Posted by Damali, Tue Jun-11-19 05:23 PM
13337826, I really thought you were better than falling for this youtube comments
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 09:01 AM
section troll argument. SMH.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337822, WTF? What in god's name does the military at all have to do with this?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 08:52 AM
When did I ever mention the military? What kind of shitty youtube comment strawman argument are you trying to make?


Again, I wonder if you are really bad at this or you are just typing nonsense trolling BS to distract from the topic at hand.

Stay on topic, if you are capable, and answer 2 questions which I think gets to the heart of the debate. If you can't answer these questions we all know everything else you are doing in this post is noise:

1. Do you think the HS publishing the article is a net benefit for this girl?

2. Would you want your daughter doing porn and if by some chance she was would you want such an article published about her?

If you can't answer those comments straightly, then the gig is up.



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13338001, I knew buddy was a dumb motherfucker
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jun-12-19 03:13 PM
but ever since I pointed out he's never shown up anywhere irl, he suddenly forgot how to read entirely.

WHAT DOES THE MILITARY HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING

says the guy screaming about how a particular job is too dangerous for an 18 year old to talk about.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13337831, A normal life is where the potentially bad choices you make as a kid
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 09:27 AM
Don't follow you for the rest of your life.

We've all done all sorts of dumb shit and made mistakes as young people that was character building and didn't affect us for the rest of our lives because it happened in anonymity. I thank god I got to live my younger days in anonymity. My social media from my teens would have been ridiculous.

And you kow this is true ESPECIALLY for sex workers. There is a reason they all don't use their real names and have aliases. They of course want to separate their professional life from their personal life.

And 90% of people who experiment in sex work can try it out, figure out if they like it or not, and walk away from it. Even girls who do video stuff. BUT This girl doesn't have that option because all over the internet is her real name associated with her stage name. Not an issue if she stays in sex worker but probably problematic if she ever regrets the decision and wants a "normal life".

BTW, how did you decide for her that she doesn't want a normal life?

You getting mad defensive like you are being personally attacked (hence you personally attacking) but I am not arguing sex workers are bad people. I am arguing having this article published is a bad thing because it is exploitive and does her no good and has huge potential downside. Take two seconds, use them fancy degrees you have and respond to those points if you can. Specifically:

1. Do you think the publishing of this article will be a net positive in her life?

2. Would you want an article like this published about your own daughter?

You dodged the second question but I'd genuinely like to hear you elaborate about on what you started if you can.

Peace Goddess.






>>This shit could have been some stuff that was just only
>>gossiped about in her high school, but now, thanks to the
>>article, her name will forever be associated with porn.
>
>and some people are ok with that. It's also ok to be ok with
>that.
>
>even
>>though it seems the most she has done so far is send some
>nude
>>pictures and strip. What do you think the likelihood is that
>>an 18 year old who decided to strip and send nudes will
>regret
>>one day that she became a national news stories because her
>>high school news paper wrote an article about her being a
>porn
>>actress?
>
>people regret lots of things about their teen years. So?
>
>You do also realize that the world is a big place? That not
>everyone everywhere thinks the way you do, right? I mean, you
>viewpoint on this is very specific and narrow and while it may
>be the mainstream where you come from, her life is not doomed
>by any means.
>
>
>
>>This is where progressivism doesnt meet common sense. I
>think
>>there is a simple test to figure out whether folks are being
>>TOO progressive, just ask yourself, would I be advocating so
>>hard for this if it were my own child?
>
>Bruh trust me when I tell you that "would i let my child do
>this?" isn't always the best moral compass lol . you clearly
>haven't met my mother LOL
>
>d


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13338010, huh. interesting thread about choices made at 18
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jun-12-19 03:48 PM
that have life-long consequences.

https://twitter.com/USArmy/status/1131704927963766785


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13337898, 18 yo me and you are different from these 18 yos now
Posted by Mafamaticks, Wed Jun-12-19 11:25 AM

The internet made the world a whole lot smaller metaphorically speaking, which is why cyber bullying is an actual thing now. Generally speaking, you're going to have a hard time convincing a teen who grew up with social media that somebody retweeting some shit you did/said 200k times isn't a big deal. We've all done shit that we regret, but the majority of that shit doesn't follow us around every time we do something. Porn is one of those things. And it's not her fault, it's the consumer's fault.

Shit, college debt will follow your ass around and PTSD and all of the other fuck shit that comes with military could follow you around as well, come to think of it.

And with all of that being said, at 18 yo you have to have the foresight and the mental fortitude to make a potentially life changing decision, and be ok with it for the rest of your life.

I mean hey at 18 you might have your shit together, but imo that's the exception and not the rule.

13337829, yo, what the fuck is wrong with US?
Posted by double negative, Wed Jun-12-19 09:26 AM
we consume the fuck out of porn, pornhub is ranked 27th most visited site GLOBALLY. It's above Microsoft, Bing and Ebay

Porn addiction is on the rise


YET

we fucking hate sex workers and you're marked for life if you perform in any video
13337877, This is a whole 'nother post
Posted by Mafamaticks, Wed Jun-12-19 10:56 AM
>Porn addiction is on the rise
>
>
>YET
>
>we fucking hate sex workers and you're marked for life if you
>perform in any video


and unfortunately it's more common than not
13338011, there's something funny there
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jun-12-19 03:50 PM

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13337239, Dis finna be a big azz bowl of Cinnamon POAST Crunch!
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Thu Jun-06-19 06:27 PM
Wit da BIG SPOON too!

Deez joints:
https://www.google.com/search?q=big+spoon+pic&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS843US843&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=XR7iBc1zY-UQjM%253A%252CHq2HVDqXwwRhaM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kS8T-h7GjwTlF_OkaaHmVgo4tO89A&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizmPjLgNbiAhVXqp4KHfIMArgQ9QEwAHoECAYQBA#imgrc=XR7iBc1zY-UQjM:




*Grabs milk*
















13337245, Just saw some screen shots ... she’s not gonna make it as a model or
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jun-06-19 10:20 PM
An actress. She’s LOOKS wild young.
13337258, She sounds young in her quotes
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-07-19 07:26 AM
13337269, There’s zero remarkable about her looks
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jun-07-19 08:39 AM
And normally I wouldn’t mention her looks but she wants to get into the looks business
I hope she has a special skill.
13337279, Buddy tried to tell y’all this ain’t a good look
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-07-19 09:28 AM
None of it.

13337284, That’s not what he was saying.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jun-07-19 09:37 AM
But imma let you cook
13337291, look where it led you tho
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-07-19 10:04 AM
Now you are saying she isn’t pretty enough to be a model or actress

I just don’t think anything good comes from a HS newspaper doing this.

13337303, I’m not following what you’re getting at.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jun-07-19 10:57 AM
13337306, Don’t do this man, she’s not an adult.. she’s 18
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jun-07-19 11:06 AM
You said that above to Buddy

This story just made you go look at her pics and judge her looks and were off her chances of making it in Hollywood.

It’s the reason I don’t think this is a good story for a HS newspaper.

There isn’t anything really to be gained by this story.
13337330, LOL!!!! Full Jedi technique right here....
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Fri Jun-07-19 12:48 PM
...and dude ain't see it coming!

Dis shit is hilarious!






13337827, there's a big market for that.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jun-12-19 09:24 AM
13337317, PROGRESSIVISM AND FEMINISSSSSSMMMMMM
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Jun-07-19 11:46 AM
buddy out here reading high school newspapers

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13337320, caitlin flanagan argues that HSers can't discuss porn
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Jun-07-19 11:51 AM
she also claims that other 18 year olds aren't old enough to decide what they don't like to hear about.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/

"Still, there’s always a price to pay for walling off discussion of certain thoughts and ideas. Drive those ideas underground, especially the dark ones, and they fester."

huh.

you'd have to be the dumbest motherfucker in the room to fall for a con artist like that

oh hey buddy, how you been?

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13337457, Real Talk: I legit think you operate at an 8th grade reading level.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Jun-10-19 08:52 AM
Which I guess is sufficient for playing video games, even the more adult ones, but yeah, not good enough to know when you are out of your depth.

Anyway, speaking of con artist, you still doing this sham ally posting to make amends for this:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=18&topic_id=2595&mesg_id=2595&listing_type=search


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337583, right, you gotta ignore what I said.
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jun-10-19 03:17 PM
because you got tricked by one of the dumbest people in the entire world.

still imagining me?

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13337611, You didn't say anything worth responding to ya big dummy.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Jun-10-19 04:48 PM
Do you really think the text you quoted equates to claiming "that other 18 year olds aren't old enough to decide what they don't like to hear about."

You barely make sense. (E.g., why the word "other" in the quoted text)


I use to give you the benefit of the doubt in thinking you were doing some form of trolling where you knew the shit you was typing was dumb and off topic but I am questioning that now.

This is you doing critical reading of a text? You think its controversial to say college campuses are difficult places for less PC acts to perform? No wonder you stick to one sentence snarky replies.



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337612, imagine being the dumbass
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jun-10-19 04:53 PM
crying about college campuses as a hard place for "less PC" acts to perform


because some white supremacist tricked you into believing it.

I've never met a single person in my life with less intelligence than buddy.

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13337708, Now Chris Rock is a White Supremacist?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-11-19 12:45 PM
It's not controversial for folks to acknowledge that college campuses are difficult places for comedians to perform. Chris Rock, Carlin, Seinfeld have been talking about it for years. I think you know this and are just trolling, but dude just google it:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chris-rock-colleges-conservative_n_6250308

You really calling people dumb? So now you are doing the Trump thing of just criticizing people with the legit criticism people give you?




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337759, CHRIS ROCK SAID IT
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jun-11-19 03:39 PM
is literally a white supremacist's favorite argument.

has anyone actually met buddy to find out if he's black?

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13337763, Your Avi is you literally surrounded by white folks. LOL.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-11-19 03:45 PM
And have the nerve to question folks blackness.



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337783, yes. I've been in rooms with white people.
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jun-11-19 06:47 PM
that's an interesting thing for you to focus on instead of mentioning whether or not you exist as an actual person.

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13337838, *smacks forehead* I've fallen for the troll trap...again.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 09:45 AM
You got me. I thought you were legit trying to have a conversation on the topic at hand but all you are interested in is trolling (and I guess keep me responding to you).

I should have figured out this sooner but I just got it now because you are going down a road with gone down at least twice before. You start questioning my authenticity and I prove it not to make a point to you but to show other folks you are an insincere coward with zero intellectual depth. Here we go again,

this is me and my family:

http://i63.tinypic.com/faamgj.jpg

But who the fuck the are you? Show us you and yours?

Last chance to show us that there is more to you than a troll. I'll ask the questions again and if you don't answer I am out. Here it is:

1. Do you think the HS publishing the article is a net benefit for this girl?

2. Would you want your daughter doing porn and if by some chance she was would you want such an article published about her?


I know you will have to respond with some dumb snark but I wanted to at least prove to the other folks here who are seriously trying to discuss this that you are more than a troll.

I am done. I can't keep giving the attention you seem to need from me. Do your snarky bit and let's call it a day.

PS

Damali, this is your ally in this post. SMH.








>that's an interesting thing for you to focus on instead of
>mentioning whether or not you exist as an actual person.


The mentioning of the profile pic is that you get to pick any picture you want to express who you are and what's on your mind....and for some reason the pic you choose is a picture of you surrounded by white folks. Why I wonder? To show you belong? I think it says alot about you.



>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337842, This is some bugs bunny shit
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jun-12-19 10:07 AM
13337843, I only blame myself. SMH.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jun-12-19 10:08 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337901, Lmao
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jun-12-19 11:32 AM
13337999, it's weird how buddy can't answer the question that was asked
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jun-12-19 03:11 PM
and has to change the subject entirely.


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13337911, https://i.imgur.com/2gsBM80.jpg
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Wed Jun-12-19 11:45 AM
https://i.imgur.com/2gsBM80.jpg










13337998, I don't need to see your pictures. just one person who has met you
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jun-12-19 03:10 PM

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13337458, NorCal has some of the highest rates of Human Trafficking
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Jun-10-19 09:00 AM
in the entire country... I'm thinking we need more articles like this to raise awareness around the isssue
13337460, An article that describes entering porn as "pursuing her dreams and
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Jun-10-19 09:05 AM
does not at all mention the risk of human trafficking?"


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337599, How the hell does HS article help with trafficking?
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Jun-10-19 03:57 PM
You guys just be typing shit sometimes.
13337616, It doesn't really relate to THIS girl's story
Posted by Adwhizz, Mon Jun-10-19 05:15 PM
but a lot of town's have those sheisty "Make Money NOW!" flyers hanging up that are directed towards late teens/early 20s.

I heard them joints are a set up.

They probably SHOULD be warning against that type of shit.
13337640, they aren't a setup for anything except cutco.
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jun-10-19 08:59 PM
which is lumped in to make "human trafficking" seem like a much more widespread issue than anything you'd think of as actual human trafficking.


literally zero people are getting kidnapped off those flyers.


they are getting roped into those pyramid scheme legal insurance meetings, which isn't great, but like...not as bad as being sold into prostitution.

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13337646, Well THAT's good to know
Posted by Adwhizz, Tue Jun-11-19 05:24 AM
13337760, "anti-human trafficking" speakers and organizations
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jun-11-19 03:40 PM
are basically a whole scam, sometimes working with the police and sometimes not.



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13337711, This girl is a prime target for human traffickers
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jun-11-19 12:55 PM
including pimps.

She is young vulnerable, low self-esteem, damn near homeless, hopes to be a model and has shown a willingness to have sex for money.


I responsible news story would have spoke about that.

Without intervention, her being prostitued by a pimp is a real concern for her future.






>but a lot of town's have those sheisty "Make Money NOW!"
>flyers hanging up that are directed towards late teens/early
>20s.
>
>I heard them joints are a set up.
>
>They probably SHOULD be warning against that type of shit.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13337718, She gets to go to different cities “for free”
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jun-11-19 01:25 PM
At least that’s what she thinks.
13338002, so is there anyone who has ever met Buddy Gilapagos in real life?
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jun-12-19 03:15 PM
he's been posting for how many years?

dude ever run into anyone at a concert or something?

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