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13313505, Smokey Robinson man..... Posted by Airbreed, Wed Feb-13-19 02:33 PM
Bro is caping hard for his girl. Still out there calling his fans stupid. Are they fucking or something?
https://www.eurweb.com/2019/02/smokey-robinsons-still-pissed-at-you-jlo-haters-motowns-not-just-for-black-people/
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13313514, FOH Smokey..... Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 02:39 PM
"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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13313515, Smokey tried the old "Y'all are setting us back" line Posted by flipnile, Wed Feb-13-19 02:39 PM
Nothing but shaming tactics and snark in his post. Not one solid point about why J.Lo and not a Black artist.
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13313521, bottom line. folks TIRED of Black women getting shitted on.... Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 02:42 PM
and it hurts the most from our own people. Motown wouldn't be SHIT without Black women... FOH Smokey.. & FOH NEW Motown if they can't see the fallacy...
"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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13313532, Yup. Posted by Airbreed, Wed Feb-13-19 02:49 PM
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13313539, agree Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-13-19 02:55 PM
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13313637, End of Discussion! Posted by Mori, Wed Feb-13-19 07:15 PM
Thank you for saying this.
It is an underlying theme in our music. Black, and I do mean the dark skinned, kinky haired variety, have created amazing music, lyrics, culture and a whole entire mood. It only becomes appealing when a mixed/biracial/light skinned version performs it to the masses. How would anyone feel about something they created from depths of their soul gets sold out and displayed by someone who doesn't even remotely acknowledge, respect or resemble them.
I don't think people realize how deep the resentment, anger, pain and backlash that comes from this impacts our identities.
So many other artists that could have done Motown.
Black women will continue to persevere. But don't think we will keep supporting bullshit.
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13313522, It's a GRAMMY tribute. Posted by bentagain, Wed Feb-13-19 02:43 PM
I've been to a couple of these things...and the academy always forces their darlings into these specials
Brandi Carlisle at the Aretha tribute
Ed Sheeran at the Stevie tribute
This isn't Motown 25.
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13313524, that don't make it right...by any stretch.... Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 02:45 PM
"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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13313527, I'm not disagreeing Posted by bentagain, Wed Feb-13-19 02:47 PM
My point...when you let Clive Davis point these tributes...you're gonna get Clive Davis artists
Folks want a real Motown tribute...Motown has to do that.
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13313531, gotcha.... still...Smokey need to sit his ass down on this one..he gonna Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 02:49 PM
fck around and get me-too'd out here...
"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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13313575, This is what I tried to tell my girl... Posted by Marbles, Wed Feb-13-19 04:04 PM
The Grammy's always try to wow everyone by putting together artists that you might not expect to collaborate.
So the Grammys having J-Lo do this isn't a shock. She's still a pretty big name, by mainstream standards. She brings star power.
But there are bazillion better people they could have picked. There may even be even a bazillion better white or latin artists they could have picked.
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13313579, I have more of an issue with Motown, TBH Posted by bentagain, Wed Feb-13-19 04:13 PM
I don't remember a 50th TV Special...?
There was a Motown broadway musical around the same time that would have been a built in setup for a 50th...?
They should be in control of a tribute to Motown
JLo doing a 60th grammy tribute is a symptom of Motown letting other people control a ceremony
So I don't think the issue is solely with JLo, it's more about expecting yt people to do better
...and we know better...
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13313589, There were commercials for a 60th anniversary show coming up. Posted by Marbles, Wed Feb-13-19 04:38 PM
I'm gonna bet that one will be more to our liking.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/music/2019/02/06/smokey-robinson-host-motown-60-special/2795232002/
And you're aboslutely right about us not being able to control our own thing. But despite all the criticisms, the Grammys still hold a lot of pull in the music industry.
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13313593, RE: Little Big Town Posted by bentagain, Wed Feb-13-19 04:40 PM
It's on CBS, which goes back to my original post
They'll force their darlings into it
I agree it will be MORE to OUR liking, but it still won't be OUR thing.
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13313529, https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEduSjq9BxP0ysJwc/giphy.gif Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-13-19 02:48 PM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEduSjq9BxP0ysJwc/giphy.gif
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13313538, while I don't agree, I kinda get where his head is Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-13-19 02:55 PM
just spitballing here but I wonder if its a case of old outlook mismatched with new perspectives.
Until Marvin Gaye pushed to release 'Whats Going On' MoTown was largely focused on making apolitical music
Smokey was of the time were people he witnessed music bringing people together
So, in the time of hardlines being laid down - i.e. you either with us or against us, i.e. fuck waiting for a turn, the time is NOW - his old perspective is I think getting caught up in the times.
That is not to say there were never overtly political/vocal performers of his time...I just think hes coming at it from a perspective thats not being counted.
That said...when my wife told me about the performance I scratched my head because non of it made sense..then again, I can't think of a modern artist at the mainstream level who would fit with a MoTown performance, lesser known folks for sure - well actually, shit, Raphael Sadiq would have been a good choice since he made that album or even Sharon Jones...wait, no...or maybe Charles Bradley...shit, wait...Ralphael Sadiq then.
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13313541, RIP Sharon Jones and Charles Bradley Posted by bentagain, Wed Feb-13-19 02:56 PM
Stans won't be happy with anything less than Bey...let's be honest.
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13313543, Janelle Monáe woulda kilt that.... Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 03:00 PM
"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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13313595, Hmm.. not if she is doing those wack robotic dance moves Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-13-19 04:47 PM
voice is cool but her moves are a turn off.
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13313546, Jill, Ledisi, Erykah, Carol Riddick, Jazmine Sullivan, etc... Posted by Creole, Wed Feb-13-19 03:04 PM
were all available.
Now, could they have danced as well as J-Lo did? Prolly not but they'd have brought the house down with some serious Motown renditions.
It was a head scratcher for me too but I ain't up in armas about it. Shit! If you were really watching, Alicia mentioned all types of names except for Barry Gordy's. He was looking stupid standing there.
Then again, I'm getting old and can't hear too well anymore. Maybe they did say his name and I'm mistaken. LOL Was gon off that Ripple.
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13313547, this would be an easier sell if she had actually been good Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-13-19 03:04 PM
what she did was pretty much a las vegas revue kinda deal
she cain't sing
the dancing - which is the thing she supposedly does best - had no SOUL
you can't "we are the world" past that
*shurg*
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13313551, nah, I can't condone shading her dancing. That's the ONLY reason I could Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 03:07 PM
find for her even being considered.... she can dance her ass off...but amazingly it stays on....
"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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13313560, did you see her @ the grammys Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-13-19 03:20 PM
that wasn't good dancing player
i've seen her dance well
that won't it
she looked like shirley maclaine or something during that routine
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13313578, Ain't she like 50 years old though?? Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-13-19 04:12 PM
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13313596, You aren’t doing a good job for JLO Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-13-19 04:49 PM
if she can’t dance.. welp.
She still bad den a mug tho.
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13313603, now YOU caping for her too?? Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-13-19 05:13 PM
her age aint an excuse cuz she took her behind out there
she stay on social media doing workout videos and talkign about how fine she is
i aint mad at none of that
but she damn sure don't get to have it both ways
I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt ahead of time based on her flygirl street-cred (maybe she'll just dance over the songs....), but THAT performance at the Grammy's was wacksauce
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13313571, Her singing was A LOT better than I exepected Posted by handle, Wed Feb-13-19 03:55 PM
>what she did was pretty much a las vegas revue kinda deal Yup, that's what The Grammys are.
>she cain't sing i think she can sing - but by no means is she a good singer.
All I could think of during the tribute was "Just put Stevie out there behind a keyboard and have him to the entire thing."
Note:I saw Ne-Yo perform with Stevie about 8 years ago and Ne-Yo is the world's biggest Stevie fan/stan. He was so respectful and he talked about how much he loved Stevie's music and how much he loved Stevie.
Stevie should host and do all musical numbers.
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13313591, nope Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-13-19 04:39 PM
>>what she did was pretty much a las vegas revue kinda deal >Yup, that's what The Grammys are.
this was last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeFwtA3p4Mw
this was the year before:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5bmdh2
>>she cain't sing >i think she can sing - but by no means is she a good singer.
*blink*
>All I could think of during the tribute was "Just put Stevie >out there behind a keyboard and have him to the entire >thing."
I hate to say this, but Stevie's voice is gone these days
the "I wish I wrote this song" dual piano performance was the best performance on the show
why didn't she (Keys) do the Motown tribute?
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