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Topic subjectfam youre sounding more and more like a low info young turks follower.
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13314570, fam youre sounding more and more like a low info young turks follower.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Feb-20-19 02:46 AM
>You’re going full establishment lately.

yeah you def sound like a stereotypical 'bernie bro' here. no disrespect. ive seen others call you out on it but i resisted dogpiling. its really hard to ignore now tho.



>That Amazon deal was horse shit. And you are severely
>over-rating their image. Lol at people “trusting” the
>institution of Amazon. Especially in a district that’s
>70-80% Dem. Youre just making up shit.

nah fam. making shit up is telling other people that theyre making shit up while not *looking* shit up lol.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/10/25/18022956/amazon-trust-survey-american-institutions-ranked-georgetown
https://www.geekwire.com/2018/amazon-holds-top-spot-brand-reputation-survey-third-straight-year-apple-google-see-big-drops/
https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/319314/amazon-most-trusted-retail-brand-applebest-buy-m.html

as far as democrats (scroll down to 'INSTITUTIONAL CONFIDENCE, DEMOCRATS ONLY')...dems put more confidence in amazon than colleges and the military.
https://bakercenter.georgetown.edu/aicpoll/

if i assert something...its because i can back it up with evidence/data. you should consider holding yourself to the same standard in the future.



>Low turnout in the primary? Lol, when was the last time
>Crowley even faced a primary? What are you comparing
>it to?


other primaries. what kinda question is that? lol.

only 13% of registered dems participated in the primary (partly due to the disjointed primary scheduling). some congressional primaries are in the 30s and 40s.


>Lol their campaign worked on getting non-voters to
>vote. Why does that upset the establishment so
>much?


youre living in a fantasy narrative land again. over 80% of eligible dem voters stayed home. she rode a trend of overall voter apathy and caught a comfortable rep flat footed because he wasnt expecting a real challenge.

stacy abrams energized non-voters in her competitive primary win. andrew gillum energized non-voters in his competitive primary win. beto did it on steroids. aoc did nothing close to that.

she may have gotten some new registrations or emboldened some young people to participate in the process for the 1st time.
but she actually did more good by locking in on prime voters (like white progressives in gentrifying neighborhoods) who already voted for bernie in the 2016 primary.

its funny that you take shots at the establishment when aoc literally used the same low turnout environment that establishment incumbents (and republicans) have been using to stay in power for decades.

she won a lethargic low turnout election and she (and her supporting organization 'justice democrats') thought the best way forward for progressive candidates was to replicate the formula nationwide starting with kerri harris in delaware.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/12/tom-carper-delaware-senate-primary-features-working-class-challenger-kerri-harris-against-corporate-funded-incumbent-tom-carper/
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Harris has invested heavily in building a volunteer army and knocking on as many doors as possible, knowing that in a low-turnout environment, a relatively small number of votes could be enough to unseat an institution.

One of the difference-makers for Ocasio-Cortez was her ability to motivate people who voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary to vote again in the 2018 midterm primary, an election that most of them would typically have skipped. In Delaware, in April 2016, nearly 37,000 people came out and voted for Sanders in the primary (a contest that was won by Hillary Clinton with some 55,000 votes). If Harris can find and turn out that Sanders cohort, her chances of winning are much greater than widely believed.

Rojas told The Intercept that the campaign thinks its “win number” in the September primary is 26,000.
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nothing screams being confident in your winning message like...hoping for low turnout. is that the electoral strategy you want progressives to hang their hopes on for an entire generation?

btw de primary voters actually turned out and the harris/ocasio team got wiped out.



>I see you’ve moved the goalpost on her polling
>too.
>
>So do national polls on congress reps matter or not?

how did i move the goalposts? im not saying theyre the end-all-be-all but gauging voter sentiment is generally a good practice.

either way...you shouldnt dismiss the fact that she is just as despised as congressional leaders who have been in congress for at last a decade. they didnt become as unpopular *until* they lead their caucus. her already being in the dumps with voters should be treated as a warning sign to correct course.



>You keep making claims with no real support, “That’s
>how you get a pink slip” etc...do you have examples?

are you purposely shooting yourself in the foot? lol. you never post a single link or reference any real life data to support any of your claims. you accusing me of doing the same is some o.d. projection.


>Reeq, you should take some time off from your bubble. Talk
>to some non Dems, etc. Youre slipping.
>
>Your “I want her to stay, I’m on her side, she should just
>play
>nice and/orshut up” is some bullshit man.
>
>Like I’ve said, the way y’all shit on the base is unreal.
>Then
>you wonder why the GOPs bass is more loyal.


you keep saying im the one in the bubble but youre the one who fails to do basic research on easily-accessible facts and just runs off your own personal opinions/emotions based on popular narratives among your online social circle(s).

seriously...from now on just take a few minutes on your pc/phone and just casually browse for information on the subjects you try to argue about. thats the very least you can do. when you reply to me...post some actual links to back up your claims (and refute mine) instead of just frothing at the mouth with a bunch of disinformation that sounds good to you.

i dont mind educating folks and opening up their eyes to objective reality (even when its inconvenient to my own desires) but you really shouldnt be so indignant/emphatic while being so uninformed.

sorry if im being heavy handed but youre starting to come off loud and wrong like niggas like kira and bentagain (while being equally factually lazy). seriously take a step back and re-evaluate things.