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13311921, 1. A fashion question 2. Really really old heads answer this.
Posted by double negative, Tue Feb-05-19 05:26 PM
Trends are funny in that you have trends that are remembered for a long long time long after the trend falls out of favor and at the same time there are trends that are completely forgotten.

I'm talking about a forgotten trend that I'm trying to understand a bit.

I didnt notice it at first but now I kinda can't ignore it when I look at old photos.

What is the explanation with black men wearing cowboy hats in the 70s and maybe even 80s? I have family photos with my uncles wearing them shits and I thought it was kind of their thing until I started seeing it in other places.

Would this shit ever make a comeback?

http://www.iloveoldschoolmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screen-Shot-2015-12-05-at-2.09.05-PM.jpg

https://www.citynews1130.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/9/2018/08/16/NYDK513-417_1978_000000_hd.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/photo-of-soul-clan-and-joe-tex-and-ben-e-king-joe-tex-and-ben-e-king-picture-id85841469

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/James_Brown_Soul_Syndrome.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/22/69/442269085d898f703f3ffc75ee54d4d0.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/soul-clan-with-peter-wolf-of-the-j-geils-band-at-the-savoy-in-new-picture-id553136171?k=6&m=553136171&s=612x612&w=0&h=DdaSwUW3WDLIxfnvOW6b-gGmcYhGd7WCwE8S__DeYZw=


just....what?

13311923, Don't let Cam Newton or Russel Westbrook see this post.
Posted by GOMEZ, Tue Feb-05-19 05:35 PM
13311924, My Dad got us a matching set in 1980 for Christmas
Posted by Lil Rabies, Tue Feb-05-19 05:37 PM
It's one of my cherished pictures. I can't look at it without tearing up. See you later Space Cowboy....
13311925, his name is von miller...hes holding down for that look
Posted by tomjohn29, Tue Feb-05-19 05:38 PM
harden from time to time too
13311926, Every uncle in my fam had one
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Feb-05-19 05:45 PM
13311928, my dad used to rock the hats and the boots in the 70's & 80's
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-05-19 05:47 PM
13311929, Moe Dee
Posted by PG, Tue Feb-05-19 05:53 PM
https://youtu.be/auhwI00iKWg

13311936, thst's the one trend i've been waiting to return.
Posted by rl9, Tue Feb-05-19 06:31 PM
i have yet to see somebody to rock it with a hoodie and sneakers.
that's the new wave lol.
13312010, hoodie and sneakers though?
Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-06-19 10:14 AM
i hate how we've been on a decades long slide into being comfortable all the time.
13311938, Gap Band
Posted by rdhull, Tue Feb-05-19 06:36 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Gap_Band_V.jpg
13312011, jesus, prime fucking example. I totally forgot about them
Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-06-19 10:16 AM
13311944, Camp Lo count?
Posted by infin8, Tue Feb-05-19 08:00 PM
all my uncles had one...all the older uncles that were in their 30's 40's 50's when I was a kid.


I feel like it still pops in the midwest/south/texas



13311951, I think it would be harder for men...
Posted by Trinity444, Tue Feb-05-19 08:53 PM
like. there isn’t really any versatility in that style. I hated back then and hate it now lol
then again. I remember when the ladies went through the cowgirl hat stage. Hated that too...

13312003, No Isley Brother Pic?!?!
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Feb-06-19 09:56 AM
https://cdn-s3.allmusic.com/release-covers/500/0001/539/0001539744.jpg

Great observation by the way.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13312022, an actual answer: the late 70s-early 80s urban cowboy era
Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-06-19 10:45 AM
there was a period where that whole country-chic thing was in parallelling an increased popularity for country music (several country variety shows, the popularity of folks like Kenny ROgers, Barbara Mandrell and their ilk)

hence you had all kinda famous people (not just Black) wearing cowboy hats, cowboy boots, tight-a$$ jeans, and even clothes with fringes and whatnot

see also: Rick James "fire it up" cover as yet another example of us doing what we do and being super-extra with it

i have pics from my mother's hangouts where several folks are going that route

also consider: in certain southern locales (Houston for sure) there are people non-ironically wearing this type of gear to this day
13312026, Country kinda was the thing ....
Posted by TR808, Wed Feb-06-19 10:56 AM
I was just a kid then...but my dad who was a DJ told me that it was kind of a reset after they killed off disco and before boogie....

think Barbara Mandrell and the Oakridge boys...

Even John Travolta who had did Saturday Night Fever did a 180 and did Urban Cowboy...



13312043, Interesting...I'm remembering stuff now...
Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-06-19 11:26 AM
as an 80s baby...I'm recalling the things you mentioned.


13312792, lol yup. my pop went through his country music phase in the early 80s
Posted by dapitts08, Sat Feb-09-19 09:41 PM
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13312103, Theory: Is it because cowboys were the “manliest” men?
Posted by JFrost1117, Wed Feb-06-19 12:35 PM
Like, pre badass TV cop, or 70’s 80’s kill-everything-moving cop, didn’t that generation grow up with Gunsmoke, Bonanza, etc?
13312811, this is my vote. every brother i saw rocking one was usually some
Posted by mikediggz, Sun Feb-10-19 04:20 PM
big macho type cat
13312105, Any brotha walking into a bar with a cowboy hat on in the 70’s
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-06-19 12:41 PM
was not to be fucked with.

Who is going to test a man in a cowboy hat in the hood?


13312115, Where you from? Bros in Louisiana and Texas still rock'em especially at...
Posted by Creole, Wed Feb-06-19 12:55 PM
the zydecos and trail rides.

One of the things I've always wanted were some boss ass cowboy boots.

And my grandfather, who was a big zydeco fiend, wore cowboy hats and boots til the day he died several years ago.

Boozoo was one of his favorite artists...
https://64parishes.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/boozoo-chavis-1261.jpg

These are just some other zydeco artists or fans...

https://folkmama.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/jefferybroussard11.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/efsinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Nathan1.jpg

https://alexandriapinevillela.com/sites/default/files/Events/13507101_734841006659143_4170514021657927246_n.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/po88DP0pfEU/hqdefault.jpg

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/26/67/61/5995609/3/gallery_medium.jpg

Edit:
Sometimes, I wish I'd been able to really become a man in Louisiana. I left too early to really get to know the "country" vibe which is really a significant part of the Creole culture. When I visit, I can't talk about the music that my cousins listen to nor can I speak the language that my elders held dear. I'd have to move back and then deeply immerse myself to really know what I've been missing.

13312123, alright so, actually funny you mention Louisiana
Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-06-19 01:06 PM
because one of the founding thoughts for this post started once I saw this film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_River_(film)

its a lost film about a creole dude who falls in love with a black woman. there were a lot of white cowboy hats in the beginning of the film which then made me remember the old family pictures which then made me remember the photos of famous folks which all made me ask "wait, was this a thing?"
13312158, Yeah, DN! It's alive and well. Creoles were the first Cowboys...
Posted by Creole, Wed Feb-06-19 02:23 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/sep/21/creole-cowboys-calvert-texas-louisiana

https://kreolmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/cowboy.jpg

https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2016/03/20/were-creoles-first-cowboys/80818350/

Since that's what they're saying, I'm taking it as the gospel. LOL

13312164, since we are doing history time....
Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-06-19 02:35 PM
see also: Lu Vason and Bill Pickett

both discussed here: http://www.billpickettrodeo.com/index.php/about-us/founder

Happy Black History Month
13312171, Yup! And as I suspected, he was from Louisiana. Born in NO to be exact...
Posted by Creole, Wed Feb-06-19 03:01 PM
His last name was the first sign that he might be. It's French for flowerpot. Then, further down in the link, it's noted that he was born in NO.

13312124, alright so, actually funny you mention Louisiana
Posted by double negative, Wed Feb-06-19 01:06 PM
because one of the founding thoughts for this post started once I saw this film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_River_(film)

its a lost film about a creole dude who falls in love with a black woman. there were a lot of white cowboy hats in the beginning of the film which then made me remember the old family pictures which then made me remember the photos of famous folks which all made me ask "wait, was this a thing?"
13312133, We the original cowboys, so why not?
Posted by The Real, Wed Feb-06-19 01:21 PM
Plus some of those cowboy hats are dope.


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13312176, Huh? Pretty sure Mexicans brought it here
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Wed Feb-06-19 03:09 PM
Look up vaqueros
13312165, Maybe it's just regional now. I walked through an airport on Saturday.
Posted by Cam, Wed Feb-06-19 02:38 PM
In Denver, every third man headed to baggage claim had on a cowboy hat, even some of the black men.
I was caught off guard.
I also saw this https://www.instagram.com/p/Bta1QfvBOSg/.
13312175, prolly coincided witth this (swipe)
Posted by Selah, Wed Feb-06-19 03:04 PM
DENVER, CO, January 27, 2019 – The 113th National Western Stock Show celebrated the best sixteen days in January with the third highest attendance, hosting 701,656 visitors. The attendance record sits at 726,972 guests and was set in 2006 during the 100th Anniversary. “We appreciate every person, young and old, from near and far that came out to celebrate Colorado’s longest standing western tradition with us,” said Paul Andrews, President and CEO of the National Western Stock Show. “To host over 700,000 guests in sixteen days for the second straight year is tremendous.”

The Junior Livestock Auction had an epic sale, setting an all-time record of $1,027,750 raised. A percentage of the auction total goes to fund the Scholarship Trust, along with two other funding events. The Citizen of the West dinner, honoring Robert G. Tointon, sold out the Events Center arena floor, and the Coors Western Art Exhibit & Sale had another successful year. “All three of these amazing events will produce enough revenue to fund a projected 100 scholarships for students studying in the fields of agriculture and rural medicine,” said Andrews. “We are grateful to all the supporters that contribute to these events, which fund the future of ag studies in Colorado and across the country.”

Andrews also contributes the success of the Stock Show to the dedication and hard work of over 800 volunteers, the support of the City of Denver, the WSSA Board of Directors, sponsor partners, the livestock and rodeo committees, and the amazing rodeo and Stock Show fans that come out every year to celebrate the western traditions of the National Western Stock Show.
13312184, makes sense
Posted by Cam, Wed Feb-06-19 03:18 PM
13312300, I don't think my dad had a cowboy hat
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Wed Feb-06-19 10:47 PM
But my mom bought my brother and I cowboy boots at one point. Used to wear them instead of dress shoes at church.
13312458, Marvin Gaye
Posted by double negative, Thu Feb-07-19 02:35 PM
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/742727521.jpg?quality=90&strip=all
13312788, The show Dallas
Posted by Cam, Sat Feb-09-19 08:50 PM
During an era of only 3 television stations, and luxury being defined by the heirs to Ewing Oil empire, my money is on that show being the trend’s catalyst.
13312791, historically black cowboys were everywhere
Posted by eclipsedInI, Sat Feb-09-19 09:20 PM
13312797, real ones, yeah, but uncle cleavon wasn't ropin no steer, man
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat Feb-09-19 11:29 PM
13312796, lol no idea but recently AF i saw two examples
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat Feb-09-19 11:28 PM
seen a black dude at the mall wearing a real shiny silk shirt and tight ass white jeans, a bolo with a big ass diamond (uh, i think) in the center, cowboy boots with some sort of reptile skin print and a cowboy hat. under it dude was rocking a mean ass s curl. i whispered to my wife "is he auditioning for urban cowboy or american pimp?"

then just yesterday i was dropping off some packages and drove by the yard sale to end all yard sale, shit being sold grab-bag style, $3 a box, hundreds and hundreds of boxes. i seen a black dude in a shitty old darren woodson dallas jersey with a fuckin cowboy hat on. that would be like me, an eagles fan, walking around with a big ass set of wings.
13312798, Was at a graduation party and somebody Uncle was rocking it.
Posted by Castro, Sat Feb-09-19 11:39 PM
He was clean af, going to a show with his lady. It didn't look dated- he looked like Frankie Beverly about to go captain a yacht in America's cup.


If you go to a Zydeco show in the deep south, you gonna see that right today and its not going to look out of place.


The fur coat thing has been gone the way of the Dodo bird, courtesy of these bootie ass rappers.