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13305582, Rap songs where the POV switches or is not always first person
Posted by double negative, Wed Jan-09-19 12:08 PM
Listened to Lupe Fiasco's 'He Say She Say' and was reminded of the fact that this song starts from the perspective of a parent or adult observing the main character btu then the second part is the main character repeating each line from the first but the perspective has switched to first person.

Then I was reminded of Kendrick Lamar's 'FEAR' where it's a three part story of Kendrick as a kid, a teenager and an adult.


What else matches that style of storytelling?

I want to say Nas' 'I gave you power' but thats still first person

13305586, Redman-Green Island and Souls of Mischief-Live and Let Live come to mind.
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Jan-09-19 12:10 PM
13305676, Tell Me Who Profits from Souls of Mischief counts as well.
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Jan-09-19 02:16 PM
13305593, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO5SeHQa7g
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jan-09-19 12:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO5SeHQa7g
13305599, I blame the ADHD.
Posted by double negative, Wed Jan-09-19 12:25 PM
That one was front of mind when I was writing the post and I forgot to include it.
13305598, Gravediggaz - fairytalez
Posted by c71, Wed Jan-09-19 12:20 PM
yep
13305604, Eminem - Stan
Posted by Ray_Snill, Wed Jan-09-19 12:45 PM

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13305607, Does Biggie-Gimme The Loot count?
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Jan-09-19 12:47 PM
*edit*

Along that similar type of song, Del has that song Worldwide where he raps with himself with his voice sped up as a Unicorn just like Biggie in Gimme The Loot.

Did Madlib have any songs with himself and Quasimoto on the same time?
13305610, I love and hate that Lupe song. Shit is too real.
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jan-09-19 12:49 PM
13305613, Gang Starr - just to get a rep
Posted by c71, Wed Jan-09-19 12:54 PM
yep
13305633, GOOD ONE!
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jan-09-19 01:30 PM
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13305615, Wayne's Mona Lisa w/Kendrick is a good recent one.
Posted by GOMEZ, Wed Jan-09-19 12:57 PM
Edit - i guess it's two different MCs doing first person accounts of the same event, rashomon style. So not sure if that qualifies under the original posts definition. Still, interesting storytelling.
13305620, KMD - hard wit no hoe
Posted by c71, Wed Jan-09-19 01:05 PM
yep
13305623, Big Daddy Kane - calling Mr. Welfare
Posted by c71, Wed Jan-09-19 01:09 PM
yep
13305624, Lupe Fiasco - He Said She Said
Posted by Oak27, Wed Jan-09-19 01:10 PM
13305758, Smh...you ain’t read the post or the damn song title
Posted by Anonymous, Wed Jan-09-19 09:51 PM
Lol
13305771, Lmao 0 for 2. It was first thing that came to mind, had to get my shit in.
Posted by Oak27, Thu Jan-10-19 06:55 AM
13305625, Joe Budden - Three Sides To A Story
Posted by Oak27, Wed Jan-09-19 01:11 PM
13305629, Bobby Feeno (Arian Foster): A Friend, A Fan, A Kid
Posted by Bumaye, Wed Jan-09-19 01:13 PM
13306342, Good call. That's a top 3 2018 album for me.
Posted by Brew, Fri Jan-11-19 07:22 PM
Largely because it surprised the shit out of me.

But also largely because it's very fucking good.
13305630, Does "Singin Man" count?
Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jan-09-19 01:18 PM
It's three different perspectives, but also three different rappers.
13305631, Wu-Tang Clan - America
Posted by c71, Wed Jan-09-19 01:21 PM
yep
13305692, denzel curry - "sick & tired"
Posted by bearfield, Wed Jan-09-19 02:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmaHHDQ4UHs

https://genius.com/Denzel-curry-sick-and-tired-lyrics

1st verse is the from the perspective of the robber, 2nd is the from the perspective of the victim
13305695, brenda's got a baby // millie pulled a pistol on santa
Posted by Selah, Wed Jan-09-19 02:44 PM
those two popped off top but there's a grip in the "art of storytelling" block
13305727, Organized Konfusion's "Hate" and also, "Confrontations"
Posted by Somnus, Wed Jan-09-19 04:36 PM
13305729, Also from that album, "Invetro."
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jan-09-19 04:48 PM
"Stray Bullet" qualifies as well.
13305741, RE: Also from that album...(double edit)
Posted by Somnus, Wed Jan-09-19 05:52 PM
I was gonna mention those as well (especially "Stray Bullet") but what I got from the OP was that they wanted more of a back & forth, sorta like a discourse or exchange or whatever

...even though "Hate" really isn't that, so my bad
13305736, Jay-Z - Soon You'll Understand
Posted by Danny, Wed Jan-09-19 05:10 PM
I'm pretty sure each verse is the perspective of a different person, but if not neither of them is from Jay's
13305755, Slept on, but Action Bronson did his thing
Posted by BigReg, Wed Jan-09-19 09:19 PM
"Hookers on the Point"

Three verses, first verse is a third person description of the street walker, next two are first person take place from the perspective of the pimp and the john. Ignore the video because as usual he plays it up for giggles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EONhJ9qvCPY

Made me re-evaluate him as an MC, even though he's done nothing nearly as woke/witty
13305756, Shit. DMX's "Damien"...no?
Posted by Somnus, Wed Jan-09-19 09:33 PM
13305775, Damien, The Omen, and I think there might've been a 3rd one.
Posted by JFrost1117, Thu Jan-10-19 08:57 AM
13306341, There was. I forget the name but/because it wasn't very good.
Posted by Brew, Fri Jan-11-19 07:21 PM
13305759, Masta Ace (feat. Punch and Words)- Block Episode
Posted by Anonymous, Wed Jan-09-19 09:54 PM
https://youtu.be/VNborAlc7UA
13305765, Only briefly but Snoop "Murder was the Case"
Posted by Brew, Wed Jan-09-19 10:48 PM
13305776, Positive K - I Got A Man
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jan-10-19 09:07 AM
Still trips me out that he was the female in that song.
13305785, K Dot-"Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst"
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13306267, ^
Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Fri Jan-11-19 04:07 PM
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13306051, DMX - The Convo
Posted by nativesun07, Thu Jan-10-19 10:41 PM
13306053, Jay Electronica - Shiny Suit Theory and Departure
Posted by nativesun07, Thu Jan-10-19 10:47 PM
Maybe not point of view but setting, time, and convo flow make these definitely count
13306060, "Clear Blue Skies" By Juggaknots
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Fri Jan-11-19 02:20 AM
This was the first songs I thought about as soon as I read the post.

"Clear Blue Skies": https://youtu.be/9mMfavxyFUI


13306282, "Bitties In The BK Lounge" - De La Soul
Posted by Original Juice, Fri Jan-11-19 04:22 PM
does this count?

I know each part features a different main rapper, but the first part a de la emcee plays a customer and in the 2nd, it's the cashier.
13306369, Ghostface - The Watch
Posted by Birdzeye, Sat Jan-12-19 08:10 AM
Ghostface has an argument with his watch and the watch disses Ghost’s status in the rap.

Around this time Ghost could do no wrong. He was constantly coming up with weird concepts.
13306386, Kings of Pressure - tales from the darkside
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:24 PM
yep
13306389, Ice Cube - Who's the mack?
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:30 PM
yep
13306390, Ice-T - You played yourself
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:34 PM
yep
13306391, Donald D - F.B.I.
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:40 PM
yes
13306392, Kid N Play - slippin'
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:44 PM
yep
13306393, Brand Nubian - slow down
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:45 PM
yep
13306395, Salt-N-Pepa - let's talk about sex
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:47 PM
yep
13306396, Roxanne Shanté - Independent woman
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 12:58 PM
yep
13306397, Heavy D and the Boyz - letter to the future
Posted by c71, Sat Jan-12-19 01:01 PM
yep
13306407, Nasir OWNS this
Posted by melmag, Sat Jan-12-19 03:39 PM
13306452, Rapsody - Jesus Coming
Posted by DickGrayson, Sun Jan-13-19 03:14 PM
13306565, The Coup - Pimps (Freestylin' at the fortune 500)
Posted by mista k5, Mon Jan-14-19 12:19 PM
i really wish there was an animated video for this
13306665, The Roots "The OtherSide"
Posted by exactopposite, Mon Jan-14-19 09:54 PM
Thought starts off in third person and switches to first person