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13289672, Ya boy Tariq deploying that shitty twitter logic to get at Jamilah Lemieux
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Oct-03-18 08:46 AM
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1046944300540428288


Kind of shitty to come at someone's elderly father, black panther mind you, to get your gender warz poppin no?

It's this tweet in particular that displays that terrible twitter logic that drives me nuts.

"5. They were trying to say that DAVID Lemieux’ mother is white and his father is part Haitian, but according to Jamilah herself, the family has NO IDEA of David’s dads ancestry. So that would conclude that he is a WHITE MAN. And this is clearly where Jamilah gets her views (End)"

I was told that be wary anytime some uses phrases like "clearly" and "obviously" because it's almost always never the case. These jump in logic conclusions are terrible and it's terrible to see the dumbass subtweets running with it.

It's especially terrible to weaponize her efforts to seek out information about her heritage.

I don't know Jamilah Lemieux and I am not a fan of the "black man is trash" trope, but I haven't seen anything produced by Tariq that shows her to be that. I could be wrong, I welcome the receipts.

However, even if that is the case, Tariq isn't attacking that, he is attacking her for having a light-skinned father who served in law enforcement and his deplorables are eating it up. SMH.

In summation, yalls boy K Flex is trash.

https://img.discogs.com/Sy3PCxQspRrMW0mUWTYuYSUTh_0=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-9590799-1483296576-6894.jpeg.jpg




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289673, At first I agreed w/u...but it's ...her....she is problematic
Posted by ambient1, Wed Oct-03-18 09:11 AM
and not too bright

he is too...so I look at it as a 'fair' fight

goofy none the less...

that nigga rnb video is hilarious tho
13289683, If he kept it to her dumb talk, It wouldn't bother me calling her out.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Oct-03-18 09:45 AM
on that.

But going into family history?


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289691, you're right...he's on the extreme right wing of niggas
Posted by ambient1, Wed Oct-03-18 10:03 AM
and grasps straws all the time
13289674, consider the source. every white person is a white supremacist to him
Posted by LAbeathustla, Wed Oct-03-18 09:12 AM
i cant rock with that... he went thru all that to "out" her...for what? what is he accomplishing? he so pro Black this and that, but dragging a Black woman? dude is a weirdo to me...but so quick to mention how he was gettin it in the 90s and such a gangster...hes a real weirdo
13289676, Does he have a team of research assistants?
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Oct-03-18 09:18 AM
I'm just thinking of all the wasted time compiling these 'receipts"
13289718, Word is he lifted alot of this from a recent thread at thecoli
Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Oct-03-18 11:01 AM
13289678, the art of mackin
Posted by naame, Wed Oct-03-18 09:27 AM
men are in a really bad place.
13289680, Didn't she call people Negroids?
Posted by Mori, Wed Oct-03-18 09:40 AM
I mean, I get she can ride the wave of identity. But she is asking for it if she thinks calling people Negroids on twitter won't cause any kind of backlash.

https://twitter.com/search?q=negroid&src=typd


I am not really sure about her political angle. Women? Black women? Anti trash men?

I like her boldness and I think she is captivating. I wish her all the success, but calling people negroids is only asking for trouble.
13289685, The term "Negroids" is the new N word?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Oct-03-18 09:52 AM
I don't get it. If said "niggas" would that have been controversial?

Negroid is worst than Nigga?



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289687, It is triggering for some people
Posted by Mori, Wed Oct-03-18 09:54 AM
Pre internet, I had a white man use the word Negro around me and I damn near lost my mind.

I am just saying that twitter is an open war field. Don't be surprised if you drop a bomb and people retaliate with their own verbal weapons.
13289794, Negro is an offensive term to you?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Oct-03-18 01:52 PM
It's funny because I am old enough when people use Negro unironically and seriously...Hence the United Negro College Fund and NAACP.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289808, someone who used to post here definitely used it as a pejorative
Posted by atruhead, Wed Oct-03-18 02:06 PM
it was weird every time too
13289688, better, worse it doesn't matter. it's problematic.
Posted by KiloMcG, Wed Oct-03-18 09:54 AM
13289690, He did this in the spirit of doxxing, which is less than cool, but there
Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Oct-03-18 10:01 AM
aren't any lies here, and just about all of this is stuff she's talked about openly before. There's no news here, even if not everyone knew every single thing he mentioned.

And ftr, I do believe her father is black and not just passing.
13289692, why is he doing it at this time?
Posted by naame, Wed Oct-03-18 10:04 AM
other than the fact that he's a misogynistic asshole who wrote a whole book on how to manipulate women and has produced three dubiously researched films on black history, why is he doing this now?
13289693, From what I heard on the Nigganet she was talking shit about him for a while
Posted by Mafamaticks, Wed Oct-03-18 10:07 AM
and he got fed up.

I don't follow any one of them niggas so I don't know shit.
13289737, i see
Posted by naame, Wed Oct-03-18 12:17 PM
i wonder what tariq nasheed's parents did for a living.
13289696, he not wrong tho.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Oct-03-18 10:12 AM
13289704, He's deflecting
Posted by bentagain, Wed Oct-03-18 10:27 AM
It's the same $hit Trumpster and his ilk do...and we hate them for it

They attack the messenger and/or the process, but don't address the message

I have no idea who either of these people are

Going off of what was presented

She made some correlation between Cosby and Kavanaugh

He replied by talking about her

Although the facts may be correct, one has nothing to do with the other

L.
13289796, Not wrong? Tariq did not prove that her father is a white man.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Oct-03-18 01:53 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289805, He did show that he had a relatively high number of complaints
Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Oct-03-18 02:06 PM
logged against him during his time as a cop.

And as for him being white, his father must have been only part black himself, because Jamilah's 23andme results showed she's 53% Euro, and her Mom is a regular-degular black woman. Most regular black Americans have Euro blood in the 10 - 30% range, so assuming her Mom is in the middle, at about 20%, that implies her Dad is like 80% white, more or less, which is about what he looks.

Again, I believe he's Black, but Tariq's logic isn't crazy and off the wall, or anything.
13289856, I think it's all bullshit.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Oct-03-18 03:56 PM
The argument in particular is I don't have any real sense if he has a high number of complaints. 25 years and 25 complaints? Only 3 were sustained? I see where it says it's 80 percent higher than the average but I am not sure what that means. 80 percent higher tthan all cops or all cops with 25 years experience? Thats a big difference.

Regarding the whiteness of her daddy, I don't think anyone has ever argued that her daddy got a LOT of white in him. But there are ALOT of black folks with a lot of white in them who are identify and self identify as black. So this dude has no real basis for saying anything remotely like CLEARLY he is white. Also I don't get the logic, the white man passing for a black man hates black men?

BTW, that whole disecting a person's 23andme racial percentages to figure out their parents race? That shit doesn't work like that.
I couldn't find the article that I read recently that explains why but I couldn't find it just now.


At any rate that brings me to the argument in General, WHAT DOES HER FATHER have to do with her opinions!?!?! This is Newt Gingrich arguing that Obama has Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior because his father is Kenyan. Tariq has no idea what she was raised to believe.

RE: He did show that he had a relatively high number of complaints
>logged against him during his time as a cop.
>
>And as for him being white, his father must have been only
>part black himself, because Jamilah's 23andme results showed
>she's 53% Euro, and her Mom is a regular-degular black woman.
>Most regular black Americans have Euro blood in the 10 - 30%
>range, so assuming her Mom is in the middle, at about 20%,
>that implies her Dad is like 80% white, more or less, which is
>about what he looks.
>
>Again, I believe he's Black, but Tariq's logic isn't crazy and
>off the wall, or anything.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289869, As for the genetics, that's exactly how it works.
Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Oct-03-18 04:16 PM
You're going to be roughly an even split of whatever your parents are, especially for any genetic material that's a large chunk of each if their make-up. So small stuff could disappear, like a sliver of Naruve American blood but major stuff thats at least 5% of their make-up? You're going to get roughly half of that.

*EDIT* Shes already said that her grandmother was white. So that takes a ton of the guesswork out of her father genetic story. I think you might be referring to people who are genetically half white or whatever not necessarily having a white parent. I have cousins like that. But that comes from generation after generation of people who are basically half white intermarrying. That's not JL's story.


Again, I'm not debating your main argument, which is "who cares?" I'm just saying that TN told no lies anywhere in this. *EDIT* No lies in terms of facts he pulled and screen-shotted. I dont think her father secretly taught her to be an agent.
13289807, i got niggas in my family that look whiter than that nigga.
Posted by IkeMoses, Wed Oct-03-18 02:06 PM
13289706, Her pops getting exposed now
Posted by daskap, Wed Oct-03-18 10:31 AM
https://twitter.com/__Y2Dre/status/1047363684476104705?s=19
https://twitter.com/__Y2Dre/status/1047364619159949313?s=19
13289716, Thought this was about Black Thought from the subject.
Posted by flipnile, Wed Oct-03-18 10:58 AM
I rock with that Tariq. I don't know this Nasheed dude.

13289725, Also, here's an OKP bio for folks that thought she was in Groove Theory:
Posted by flipnile, Wed Oct-03-18 11:37 AM
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/faces-of-black-twitter-meet-jamilah-lemieux.html


Yeah, 0/2 here. I don't really know who either of these people are. Are they Nu-Negroes?
13289756, Yeah, "your boy Tariq" on OKP means Thought.
Posted by magilla vanilla, Wed Oct-03-18 01:17 PM
13289859, basically
Posted by mista k5, Wed Oct-03-18 04:01 PM
13289717, Man, both these peole seem pretty shitty (as online personalities)
Posted by GOMEZ, Wed Oct-03-18 10:59 AM
There's a lot of damaged people on the Twitters.
13289723, People who argue on the internet for a living are generally trash.
Posted by WarriorPoet415, Wed Oct-03-18 11:30 AM
This goes for both sides. Fuck 'em.
______________________________________________________________________________

"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.
13289727, Hey she out here being a "black"
Posted by Musa, Wed Oct-03-18 11:45 AM
white supremacist...
13289743, Im treading lightly because we have a world of mutuals in common
Posted by atruhead, Wed Oct-03-18 12:31 PM
she threw a rock, he came back with a machine gun

it's the same way cats on here would troll and then say "you went too far" when you crushed their soul

no Im not defending Tariq Nasheed, just saying you cant expect the world to play by your rules
13289848, RE: Im treading lightly because we have a world of mutuals in common
Posted by BlakStaar, Wed Oct-03-18 03:21 PM
I had wondered if she's a OKP?

Social proximity on the Web is so real. I know her and Donwill are cool from what I've seen on Twitter/Instagram.
13289849, She might as well have been. She runs in alot of the same circles.
Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Oct-03-18 03:27 PM
I'd bet money shes at least checked the boards out back in the Golden Period
13289868, well she was on one of the VERY early eps of Sus and Mero
Posted by ambient1, Wed Oct-03-18 04:16 PM
13289749, After digging through Twitter some more, this seems to boil down
Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Oct-03-18 01:00 PM
to a Hoteps vs. Black Twitter 'Playery Cool Kids battle.

The former group is generally lower than the latter in the Twitter hierarchy, and most of her friends are rallying behind her. The Cool Kids seem to generally ignore almost everything that comes out of Hotep Twitter, regardless of veracity, so I think she'll be able to more or less shrug this off without it harming her in any meaningful way.
13289800, if only someone had been telling y'all dude is trash for years
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Oct-03-18 01:59 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13289812, RE: Ya boy Tariq deploying that shitty twitter logic to get at Jamilah Lemieux
Posted by naame, Wed Oct-03-18 02:12 PM
https://madamenoire.com/252282/when-a-misogynist-becomes-a-historian-are-we-so-starved-for-positive-images-of-our-history-that-we-dont-care-who-delivers-them/

"I was almost ready to believe the hype around the first Hidden Colors. A friend of mine, a very “conscious” brother whom I held in good regards, told me to give the documentary a chance. “I know you into all that female empowerment stuff but if you can put all that women-stuff aside, there is a lot of good information in this documentary.” I watched it, even when my better judgment wanted to balk at the inclusion of such questionable folks like Shahrazad Ali, author of the controversial books The Blackman’s Guide To Understanding The Blackwoman and The Blackwoman’s Guide to Understanding the Blackman. If that name sounds familiar, in the ’80s, Ali caused quite a stink for her books, particularly The Blackman’s Guide, for giving out such relationship advice that included saying it was perfectly acceptable for women to be smacked in the mouth.

And I watched this documentary, even though I noticed that the film’s producer and main “historian,” was Tariq Nasheed, a well-documented misogynist who promotes sexist and homophobic ideas in the name of black history. Most of you all may be more familiar with Nasheed’s other persona, King Flex, a gator-wearing, pimp-cup cupping, self-proclaimed ladies man, who has written numerous advice books about channeling your inner womanizer and has appeared on various television programs, promoting his tomfoolery, including on The Conan O’Brien Show and Flavor of Love: Charm School. When Nasheed isn’t pontificating on the Moors’ influence in the development of Rome, King Flex can be found giving “mack lessons” via his online radio show or his YouTube channel, dropping gems like,”‘women over 40 should be glad that any man is spitting at them because rarely do they look good” and “why hoodrats need to understand that their slick mouth ways are not tolerated on the west coast (as it is apparently tolerated in the the east and in the south), therefore, don’t be surprised when one of those hoodrats get punched in the mouth.” He also operates a message board called The United Players of America, where aspiring players, macks and hustlers can gain valuable insight into the proper way of laying down a smooth pimp hand from veteran players, macks and hustlers."
13289845, RE: Ya boy Tariq deploying that shitty twitter logic to get at Jamilah Lemieux
Posted by BlakStaar, Wed Oct-03-18 03:19 PM
I'm on Jamilah's side for the reasons already mentioned by some in this post.

The dude is an obtuse fuck and misogynist. If he had actually engaged her work and listened to her speak (see: her appearances on Combat Jack Show (R.I.P)), he'd know she's not against Black men.

Laini N. Madhubuti, the daughter of Haki Madhubuti and a former editor at the Source magazine, came to her defense:
"Yes. Baba David was always family in our house. He’s how I first learned about community-minded police as a child. Probably the only African-centered cop I’ve ever met. @JamilahLemieux @therealbakari"
https://mobile.twitter.com/femmeMenace/status/1047498546390421504

Folks were diggin' into her father's policing history/alleged acts of misconduct. LOL. It's really not funny but I love a good diggin.' As a former news reporter, I just love using (and observing people use) public records to legally research institutions and people.
13289934, I wanted to hear what the local people thought of Pops
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Oct-04-18 09:35 AM
What I hate about twitter is that the twitter hoard can decide that the dad is trash based on him being a cop and looking kind of white, meanwhile dude could be beloved on his local streets and community.




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13289885, i dislike them both...a lot
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Oct-03-18 06:04 PM
13289887, RE: i dislike them both...a lot
Posted by BlakStaar, Wed Oct-03-18 06:12 PM
Why do you dislike Jamilah?
13289895, I don't follow her because she can get annoying
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Oct-03-18 08:08 PM
but he's an absolute piece of shit.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13289899, lots of shit...
Posted by Basaglia, Wed Oct-03-18 08:33 PM

she went in on some black republican dude like 5 years ago...dude wasn't fucking with her. all she knew was he was black and republican and she went in on him. she had to apologize on behalf of her publication.

she was on some janky ass music show and offered some poorly reasoned argument why it's okay to listen to MJ (several accusation of child rape and several payoffs) and tupac (he didn't rape anyone, he only "facilitated" the rape of that young woman by like 4 niggas in that room), but kids of this generation can't listen to tekashi and XXX. it was sickening.

she DOES say slick shit about black men aaaaalll the time. any PERSON who indulges in the generalized language of "trash" and "ashy" pretty much ain't shit to me.

13289901, RE: lots of shit...
Posted by BlakStaar, Wed Oct-03-18 08:52 PM
>
>she went in on some black republican dude like 5 years
>ago...dude wasn't fucking with her. all she knew was he was
>black and republican and she went in on him. she had to
>apologize on behalf of her publication.
She actually thought he was white, and that’s a big part of the story.
She broke down what happened on the Talkitecture podcast (Combat Jack affiliates) in April of this year. She made a mistake but there’s more to the story, and a lot of it has to do with Johnson Publishing’s then-senior management not understanding social media.


>she was on some janky ass music show
Do you recall the show’s title? I’m not familiar, and I’d like hear
what she said about MJ.
13289902, RE: lots of shit...
Posted by BlakStaar, Wed Oct-03-18 08:55 PM
>>
>>she went in on some black republican dude like 5 years
>>ago...dude wasn't fucking with her. all she knew was he was
>>black and republican and she went in on him. she had to
>>apologize on behalf of her publication.
>She actually thought he was white, and that’s a big part of
>the story.
>She broke down what happened on the Talkitecture podcast
>(Combat Jack affiliates) in April of this year. She made a
>mistake but there’s more to the story, and a lot of it has
>to do with Johnson Publishing’s then-senior management not
>understanding social media.
Peep the 11:50 mark:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-behold-shes-a-lady-episode-feat-jamilah-lemieux/id1358180587?i=1000408594873&mt=2
13289903, RE: lots of shit...
Posted by BlakStaar, Wed Oct-03-18 09:02 PM

>she DOES say slick shit about black men aaaaalll the time. any
>PERSON who indulges in the generalized language of "trash" and
>"ashy" pretty much ain't shit to me.

Specific examples?

And I’m not saying she isn’t without her faults; I just don’t think she’s the stereotypical woman sprouting off “men are trash” lines like she has been portrayed.

A couple weeks ago, I think she tweeted that (paraphrasing) “dating men is like a unpaid internship” but I didn’t view it as specific to Black men. Any woman dating men of any race could have said that.
13289893, Lol, now Mero getting roasted
Posted by daskap, Wed Oct-03-18 06:51 PM
Dude should have stayed on the sidelines and let Jamilah and her daddy handle this shit on their own
13289896, you sound like a loser
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Oct-03-18 08:08 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13289897, yeah, seems to be going terribly for him
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Oct-03-18 08:08 PM
https://twitter.com/THEKIDMERO/status/1047648716117696512

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13289898, Mero called that nigga the final evolution of Hotepemon tho
Posted by IkeMoses, Wed Oct-03-18 08:12 PM
13289907, roasted? are we reading the same tweets?
Posted by seasoned vet, Wed Oct-03-18 09:59 PM
13290112, get the fuck on with this bullshit
Posted by EAS, Thu Oct-04-18 11:23 PM
n
13289909, Nasheed is a genuinely awful person
Posted by BigReg, Thu Oct-04-18 06:28 AM
and his whole ‘pro blackness’ is a scam. Futhermore its a bit disheartening reading how many hotepians are out there (cause russian bots aint mastered slang that well) that fall for his stuff hook line and sinker.

You watch his twitter feed and its old news reframed as new, anyone who slightly disagrees with him is white supremacy, and he spends half of it promoting his music. When he does tackle a newer topic (ie gamergate five years too late) and you can see him trying to illuminate people who arent in the know, he QUICKLY falls into conspiracy theory world when the basics are strong enough on their own.

Its as if one of the annoying overly devil’s advocate dude in the barbershop suddenly got a huge platform.
13289913, This post is none of my goddamn business but this picture lol
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Oct-04-18 07:29 AM

https://aalbc.com/author-photos/tariq-nasheed.jpg

Also this is what he put out there previously against another dude:
https://movietvtechgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tariq-nasheed-instagram-accusing-umar-johnson-of-herpes-sore-2017.jpg

it's grimy shit solely based on fierce protection of a rep on social media
13290033, He looks like a dude that hollers at his homey's wives
Posted by flipnile, Thu Oct-04-18 02:22 PM
13290035, then says don't hate the player, hate the game
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Oct-04-18 02:29 PM
13289915, this is very true
Posted by ambient1, Thu Oct-04-18 07:51 AM
---->

You watch his twitter feed and its old news reframed as new, anyone who slightly disagrees with him is white supremacy, and he spends half of it promoting his music. When he does tackle a newer topic (ie gamergate five years too late) and you can see him trying to illuminate people who arent in the know, he QUICKLY falls into conspiracy theory world when the basics are strong enough on their own.

13289926, I don’t follow none of these folks
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Oct-04-18 08:59 AM
and I’ve always felt like lecturing people on how Empire or donuts is a form of white supremacy is a waste of time.

Can we get some solutions?

13290022, RE: I don’t follow none of these folks
Posted by BlakStaar, Thu Oct-04-18 01:58 PM
>and I’ve always felt like lecturing people on how Empire or
>donuts is a form of white supremacy is a waste of time.

*flashback to Dr. Frances Cress Welsing (R.I.P). theory about chocolate candy hearts and black women's reproductive organs*
*flashback to Llaila O. Afrika, similarily, saying chocolate candy bars represented the white man's preoccupation with the black phallus, or something to that effect, in Supa Nova Slom's (Queen Afua's son) 2003 health documentary "Wholistic Wellness For The Hip Hop Generation"*
*flashback to the pool table scene in Boomerang that alludes to Welsing's white-ball-is-last = white supremacy theory*
13290023, neely fuller, jr.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Thu Oct-04-18 01:59 PM
>Can we get some solutions?

some of the same folks who ask for solutions are the least willing to act upon them when they are presented.

http://www.endarkenment.com/endarken/thecode/conduct/10-stops.htm

but whatever.
13289938, and the dudes in here are exactly why every woman has left
Posted by eclipsedInI, Thu Oct-04-18 09:44 AM
or posts sparingly

and when they do, they are often exasperated.

13289969, Lmao.. I’m gonna put this on a tshirt
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Oct-04-18 11:26 AM
“and you guys wonder why all the women left”
13290036, Idiot vs. Idiot, a fair fight if there ever was one.
Posted by IsaIsaIsa, Thu Oct-04-18 02:31 PM
Loud Mouth ex-Mack vs. Loud Mouthed e-Feminist, his army is bigger and meaner than hers, she learned a lesson.




www.Tupreme.com