>Also, the hate for Hillary is real.

She was a horrible candidate because she's not relatable, sadly. Also because the perception that she only won the primaries because it was "her turn" had some merit.

But then the "don't trust America" thing you said comes into play because as cheesy as she was, as unnatural as she was, as many mini scandals she had, as much as you knew people would elicit Bill at every turn ... she was and is STILL a TRILLION times more qualified than 45*. There's not a thing you could say about Hillary, true or false, that would make a rational person think 45* was a better vote.

Still so mindblowing. But yea Hillary was just about the worst person to go head to head with that creature.