>>Again, one discussion is about Jayden's music and success.
>>The other about whether Kylie is self-made or not.
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>No. The Jaden discussion was about his music, but you made it
>about whether or not he'd be where he is without his
>advantages, and how your resentment for HIM stems from those
>advantages. You even asked that we start by collectively
>acknowledging his advantages.
>This discussion is about Kylie being self-made, but you didn't
>ask that we collectively acknowledge her advantages? THAT is
>what doesn't make sense.
>And you came in the Jaden post IMMEDIATELY saying that.
>Couldn't wait to express your resentment. You can't change
>that now.

Again, so your mad my first statement wasn't hate because I did that to Jaden? That's fucking stupid. What's makes it especially stupid is the very next thing I said after saying she was self made (based on the reason I explained) was calling into question that valuation as signs of an overhyped market.

The funny thing I fully expected the discussion to turn into what does self-made mean but I made the first post and got caught up at work and didn't get to return to it much later. I think the discussion would have gone different if I got to chime in earlier but instead you and Legs got to cook.

You jumped the gun because you thought me pointing out she was self-made was some sort of praise of her. You should have actually let me answered flipnile's question before you decided you had your smoking gun.


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>>What's the basis for thinking I got self-hate?
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>I could point this out more often if that's what you want.
>You seem to consistently fail to realize that it's not just
>one post that forms folks' opinion of you.

Do it. Please. You've got your own history but I at least wait for you to say some shit before I try to call you out on it. Here you assigned to me a position I didn't make an argue against that made up position. Even resorted to digging in the crates to support that made up postion. SMH.

Other than that,
>I'm not the one who accused you of self-hate. I ain't arguing
>it either tho. I'd sooner call you a "conditioned europhile",
>since you've actually given us all permission to do so.
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>>Because I previously stated I resent Jaiden Smith's success
>>and I didn't start this post off hating on Kylie's success?
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>Again, you stated that you resent HIM.
>"I resent this talentless product of Nepotism sooo much"

Listen I do generally resent average rich kids, black or white, being treated like they are geniuses.

If I came in this post praising Kylie's businessman acumen and brilliance, you might have an argument that I gave a white kid the benefit of the doubt I didn't give a black kid (but not exactly comprable though because the true equivalent really would be if Jaiden's shit was john blaze and I was dismissing it because of help from his family but whatever)

But that's not what me pointing out she is self-made is. As someone who always followed the list I know what Forbes meant, she didn't inherit her current wealth (900M) unlike say all the Waltons on the list. That's it.


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>>I should start any discussion of any rich kid, no matter
>what
>>we are discussing, with stating I resent their success
>because
>>I once said that about a black kid otherwise I am expressing
>>self-hate?
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>>That's fucking Stupid bro.
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>AGAIN, you said you resent HIM. You're not gonna make that go
>away.
>But stupid eh? This is exactly the same thing you do to me.
>NOW it's stupid when you're on the other end of it? These are
>the terms you set. I hope you're enjoying this banter you so
>fervently begged for.

I begged for this? Ok. What's funny is you think you did work here. LOL.

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>>So your whole shit is because I once bad mouth this black
>rich
>>kid, if I don't say the same thing before discussing any
>rich
>>white kid I am displaying self-hate?
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>Nah, my "whole shit" is that the request you made about Jaden
>would actually have been warranted in this post (can we start
>by acknowledging they wouldn't be who they are without_______
>). It wasn't warranted at all in the Jaden post, but I guess
>that was your "objective" resentment that made you say that
>about him lol. Total oxymoron.


Again, I never said my opinion of Jaiden was objective (I don't know why you keep harping on this made up point no one is making). The funny thing about that Jaiden post is I explained exactly where my opinion comes from which has a lot to do with dealing with rich white kids at my job and the work I do outside of my job helping underprivileged black and brown kids in their creative endeavours. My position stems out of the opposite of white praise and black self-hate.

You and Leggs seem to think it's some crime against black people to not love Jaiden Smith but I stand by everything I said in that post and this one.

Y'all want me to be that self-hating tom but yall fake deep ain't got anyone shook and I'll put my works in my community up against you or Legs any day of the week (unless you work in a school, cuz that shit is God's Work).

So again, keep trying.

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