>that's not a convo for a 5 year old or a 9 year old

yes, it is. they will

>“She didn’t want me to fall into the hands of a man —
>and if he gave me pleasure, to think that that was him. And
>she taught me at 9!”
>
>nope.. uh, uh.

yup. bravo to her grandmother...and hopefully her words will inspire more women to start teaching their girls early to value, love and control her own body, her own sexuality and her own pleasure, in all its forms.

Eating is also self-pleasure. travelling is self-pleasure. getting a pedicure is self-pleasure. masturbating and/or touching any part of your own body is self pleasure.

All of that needs to be demystified and you will be doing your daughter a disservice by not teaching her all of that. You are leaving her sexual confidence in the hands of the first toxic male that sways her.

So go ahead.