like my old track & field cleats but without the spikes.I think my spikes were more rigid though of course...but same concept? I guess the shoes I've been using are fairly minimal...but not as "extreme" as those Merrells.. I might have to try those though.Mizuno: https://www.mizunousa.com/product/running-wave-shadow-mens.do?sortby=ourPicksAscend&page=3&refType=&from=fn&selectedOption=101090&ecList=7&ecCategory=100355Before those these were my goto Brooks: https://www.nomeatathlete.com/green-silence-review/