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13233918, The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement. Posted by MEAT, Mon Feb-12-18 02:29 PM
"The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement. We must never erode this historic office" : Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC.
Sheesh
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13233944, no lies detected, I would add part of the Anglo American religion Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Feb-12-18 03:02 PM
but I digress.
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13233946, Was that off the cuff or in prepared remarks? Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Feb-12-18 03:06 PM
Both are bad. But if it was in a written speech, sheesh
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13233947, Prepared from what I've read Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Feb-12-18 03:07 PM
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13233950, Deviated from prepared Posted by MEAT, Mon Feb-12-18 03:09 PM
Sessions’ phrasing deviated from his prepared remarks as published by the Justice Department, where the line was “The Sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage.”
Asked to clarify the meaning of Sessions’ improvisation, Justice Department spokesman Ian Prior told TPM by email: “Anglo-American law is another term for common law – which is the legal system that we use (as opposed to say, Napoleonic Code used in France) and is derived from the system of law that originated in England.”
“That said, I am confused as to why this is a story that you would need a comment on,” Prior added.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sessions-sheriff-anglo-american-heritage-policing-law-enforcement
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13233959, Hmm...I might could buy this if it were anyone but Sessions Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Feb-12-18 03:15 PM
or this administration
>Sessions’ phrasing deviated from his prepared remarks as >published by the Justice Department, where the line was “The >Sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage.” > >Asked to clarify the meaning of Sessions’ improvisation, >Justice Department spokesman Ian Prior told TPM by email: >“Anglo-American law is another term for common law – which >is the legal system that we use (as opposed to say, Napoleonic >Code used in France) and is derived from the system of law >that originated in England.” > >“That said, I am confused as to why this is a story that you >would need a comment on,” Prior added. > >https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sessions-sheriff-anglo-american-heritage-policing-law-enforcement
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13233962, the dude literally did not say anglo american law lmao Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Mon Feb-12-18 03:18 PM
what kind of bullshit is this lol
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13234031, I take Anglo in THIS CONTEXT to mean ENGLISH SPEAKING Posted by handle, Mon Feb-12-18 06:41 PM
Not necessarily white (it is strongly implied) but necessarily ENGLISH SPEAKING nations.
So good news - he's just being racist against Mexicans - not EVERYONE other than whites in this very narrow and specific instance.
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13234150, ???? Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Feb-13-18 10:36 AM
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13233948, Blatant Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-12-18 03:08 PM
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13233968, Overseer, Overseer, Overseer, Overseer Posted by eclipsedInI, Mon Feb-12-18 03:35 PM
Officer, Officer, Officer, Officer! Yeah, officer from overseer You need a little clarity? Check the similarity!
The overseer rode around the plantation The officer is off patroling all the nation The overseer could stop you what you're doing The officer will pull you over just when he's pursuing
The overseer had the right to get ill And if you fought back, the overseer had the right to kill The officer has the right to arrest And if you fight back to put a hole in your chest!
(Woop!) They both ride horses After 400 years, I've got no choices! The police them have a little gun So when I'm on the streets, I walk around with a bigger one
(Woop-woop!) I hear it all day Just so they can run the light and be upon their way
Woop-woop! It's the sound of da police!
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13234034, nigga took it back to Robin Hood. Posted by IkeMoses, Mon Feb-12-18 06:50 PM
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13234035, Irony is Sheriff comes from Muslim governmental rule Posted by Musa, Mon Feb-12-18 06:59 PM
where the Sharif means Muslim ruler of magistrate.
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13234037, No it doesn't Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Feb-12-18 07:07 PM
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13234038, It comes from 'shire,' which is about as Anglo as words get Posted by IkeMoses, Mon Feb-12-18 07:12 PM
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13234039, Le sigh you look at the first link on google with no research Posted by Musa, Mon Feb-12-18 07:20 PM
and come with this lazy half witted etymology?
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13234044, You're really resistant to facts. Posted by IkeMoses, Mon Feb-12-18 07:26 PM
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13234046, Or you don't know Arabic? Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Feb-12-18 07:29 PM
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13236336, interesting that both represent authority and overlap esoterically Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Feb-21-18 06:54 PM
Notice the symbols and names (ignore titles i.e. potentate, etc.) http://www.schulenburgsticker.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/Bucek%20donation.jpg?itok=LrRmm9GX
https://www.ebth.com/items/8035381-vintage-shriners-fez
Compared to these https://www.pinterest.com/pin/569072102893209634/
It's well known that shriners and as you probably guessed freemasons go hand in hand. The fraternal order of police which is the organization Darren Wilson called first after murdering Michael Brown (RIP) was started by two police freemasons.
"33rd Degree Mason American Presidents Study The Quran (Islam) In Secret" would be the tie in according to the Lawyer and leader for the New BPP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYB_c1GKHx0
Lastly you'll notice the sword above the head denoting death and judgement along with the moon god imagery
Came across this by accident. A book by Satanist Allistair Crowley https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/03/34/1603341c74fbbd3147ea92d04f6c2398.jpg
and these http://ch-metalcrafts.com/images/New-Home-Page_cropped.jpg
Crowley was a high level Mason as well
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13236348, Lol trust I know much more arabic than you Posted by Musa, Wed Feb-21-18 07:29 PM
and most of the Arabic terms borrowed by ENGLISH come from much older ARAMAIC the Greeks borrowed from THAT STEMS FROM "Ancient Egyptian" or Kemetic mdu ntr.
I mean but what do I know why are english people using these funny "arabic" symbols for numbers?
Why not ROMAN NUMERALS?
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13234156, well that was anti-climatic lol Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Feb-13-18 10:42 AM
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13234165, Sharif: from Arabic meaning noble, distinguished, and the like Posted by j., Tue Feb-13-18 10:54 AM
traditionally an honorific title bestowed on high born ruling class family members
Even though Muhammad forbade noble titles, nowadays a Sharif is a descendant of his, and of course they have high status in society
King Abdullah of Jordan and the ruling Hashemite family are Sharif
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi also claims to be a Sharif, and is one of the basis for his claim to be the caliph
https://www.britannica.com/topic/sharif
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13234524, This source does not support the position that Sheriff is derived Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Feb-14-18 10:11 AM
from Sharif.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13234644, it's probably a distant cousin or something Posted by j., Wed Feb-14-18 12:57 PM
like alcohol, which comes from al kohl
http://www.drinkingcup.net/1232-1315-origin-of-the-word-alcohol/
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13234774, it's not. Arabic has had a major influence on European languages Posted by IkeMoses, Wed Feb-14-18 05:53 PM
since Arabs took over the Iberian peninsula for damn near a millennia.
but this is not one of those times.
sheriff is not related to sharif.
the wikipedia page for sharif even points this out in the article's header.
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13236343, Lol you just made my point Posted by Musa, Wed Feb-21-18 07:17 PM
and said this instance doesn't count, but facts are british or the anglos and saxons borrowed heavy from the Moors in fact it's no coincidence their first university was created after interacting with Moorish empire in modern day Spain but they just happened to skip over a word when they borrowed entire libraries?
Read History and Impact of Moors in Spain by Dr Jose Pimienta Bey then check it's sources then know what you talking about before you do a quick and lazy google search via etymology which is totally false.
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13234485, That's simply a 'false friend'. Posted by shockzilla, Wed Feb-14-18 06:21 AM
sheriff (n.) late Old English scirgerefa "representative of royal authority in a shire," from scir (see shire) + gerefa "chief, official, reeve" (see reeve). As an American county official, attested from 1660s; sheriff's sale first recorded 1798. Sheriff's tooth (late 14c.) was a common name for the annual tax levied to pay for the sheriff's victuals during court sessions.
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13236344, So the word in english was established 1000 years Posted by Musa, Wed Feb-21-18 07:23 PM
after the one in Arabic
but it's a false friend?
Kind of like how Columbus hiked his genocidal ass across the trade winds Moors and other indigenous people had been using for thousands of years 10 MONTHS after the Moors were defeated in Spain.
False friend these nuts yall gotta research better google is lazy.
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13234036, as bad as all these trump peeps are their replacements will all be worse Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Feb-12-18 06:59 PM
like if we finally get rid of Sessions or Kelly, it's hard to imagine their successors not being far worse
The only people who seem to want to work for this administration are those willing to sacrifice their principles, or dont have any principles, or people with enough dirt in their past that they could never get a job with a real president, or people who actually look up to Donald Trump. The closer they have to work with him, the worse you'll get. We're pretty fucked.
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13234535, I would say, Anglo-American is a pretty common term when discussing Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Feb-14-18 10:26 AM
American law and is a common reference to the fact that our legal system is based on the English legal system. It's a term I heard pretty frequently in law school. I bet you could find plenty of references to the term by Con Law Professor Obama.
I wouldn't get too worked up over this one.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13234537, Hmm... It’s 2018 tho. Prolly time to update that reference Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-14-18 10:33 AM
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13234624, Well that's what I've been wondering since this dust up Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Feb-14-18 12:26 PM
Its a professional term to indicate that our jurisprudence is based on English Law as oppose to, Napoleonic Law (which Louisiana is based on) or Spanish Law.
It's sort of being offended by the name of the Anglican Church.
Some folks better talk about it here:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/jeff-sessions-and-anglo-americanism
And I do agree with that writer's point that it's a bit tone def but if it is a dog whistle it's a dog whistle that makes critics look kind of dumb because they don't know the history of the term. I mean in here got folks talking about its a muslim term when clearly it isn't.
It's the Niggardly argument all over again.
All just to say, I wouldn't get too worked up about it.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13236406, and as for the gold flag behind him while he said it? Posted by rawsouthpaw, Thu Feb-22-18 12:30 AM
the combined and re-asserted symbolic messages speak clearly to me...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces
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13236436, He said Anglo-American heritage. Posted by MEAT, Thu Feb-22-18 09:08 AM
His words. Not the heritage of enforcement of Anglo-American law. Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement
Anglo-American (descriptor) heritage (subject) of law enforcement (secondary subject)
In this case Anglo-American describes the type of heritage and law enforcement.
His written words read "the sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage"
Anglo-American is not a synonym for legal.
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13234671, There had to be Black Sheriffs at this national conference, right? Posted by KiloMcG, Wed Feb-14-18 01:29 PM
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13234672, You are correct it was a Black sheriff at the conference Posted by Lurkmode, Wed Feb-14-18 01:38 PM
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/Florida-sheriff-Jeff-Sessions-Anglo-American-comments-divisive-_165442684
The comments sparked a contentious debate as critics accused him of coded racism, eroding police-community relations and, in the opinion of Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings, dividing Americans. Demings, who is black, said he was present at the conference and that Sessions’ remarks were "met with mixed applause in a mostly Anglo crowd of American sheriffs."
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13236459, Probably felt like the sun peeked through and shone only on him Posted by flipnile, Thu Feb-22-18 10:48 AM
Just hot hot-as-fuck all of a sudden w/ everybody applauding & shit. Meanwhile, he's statue-still with that single bead of sweat rolling down the side of his face.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/LRVnPYqM8DLag/giphy.gif
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13234722, they knew what it was when they signed up Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Feb-14-18 03:13 PM
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13234806, code words means keep lynching and shooting at black people Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Feb-14-18 10:40 PM
that racist elmur fudd head turkey ain't never been no good
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13236339, apparently the symbols do as well Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Feb-21-18 07:05 PM
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