13230889, You can't lie TO me about me. Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Tue Jan-30-18 01:07 PM
>Get Out was Written and Directed By Black Person and is >arguably biggest movie of the year.
And it was an anomaly. Let's not act like that wasn't rare and unexpected. This is like saying Black people are doing great in Hollywood b/c Will Smith.
>You got a blind spot for black women. What about Ava, Issa, >Dee Rees. Then there is Jordan Peele and Ryan Coogler. >
Ava and Issa are why I gave some specifics. Aside from 13th, you see some recurring tropes in their work, some of which I mentioned above. Might as well throw Shonda Rimes and Scandal in there too. Or Being Mary Jane perhaps. We had a big convo about Issa that I won't rehash here. Peele has done one really successful movie. Coogler's got some good work with Creed, but it's really Stallone's movie. Fruitvale Station was cool, but it was in select theaters if I remember correctly, and Black Panther gives him 0 creative control... that's a Marvel movie as we all know. I'm not seeing what's groundbreaking about him being brought in solely to say "we got a black person." Panther is part of the Infinity War story arc.
>There are absolutely more black films and TV then there was in >the 80s.
Well yeah, there's more of everything, b/c it's easier to make something independently, and there are way more avenues to view content. The marketing push, what's featured, etc is still very much controlled tho. Keep in mind the base of this convo is pop stardom, not just stuff being out there... somewhere... in space... or wherever.
>I did my thesis on Black Film and Spike Lee in 1999. > There are way more opportunities for black filmmakers now >then there were then.
I'm not understanding how those sentences connect, but again, that's just b/c there are more avenues for everything. "Opportunities" is an interesting word here tho. So is Hidden Colors on Netflix? Is it mentioned at ANY Black award shows despite being the biggest selling Black documentary ever? Why do you think that is?
> You romanticising the 80s.
If you say so. Many of the movies we love in the 80s and 90s go straight to DVD if they're made now. Not because we wouldn't see them, but b/c gatekeepers ain't allowing intelligent heterosexual Black males to be depicted caring about each other and loving Black women long-term, etc.
>Well know you talking colorism. That's a different issue. If >you are arguing you got to be certain types of light skin to >be a crossover success I would have less to disagree with you >about.
Are you not also arguing this? If I recall correctly, you think there's no difference in Black and black. In that case, Bruno is as black as you are.
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