Go back to previous topic
Forum nameGeneral Discussion
Topic subjectNone of this is accurate though.
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13230295&mesg_id=13230861
13230861, None of this is accurate though.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jan-30-18 12:12 PM
>We also had more Black movies by Black producers and all
>Black casts with larger push in the 80s.

Nope.


Who's doing "Coming
>To America" now?


Written by White Dude, Made by White Producers and Directed By White Dude.

Get Out was Written and Directed By Black Person and is arguably biggest movie of the year.


Who's your Spike Lee who doesn't have to
>place a gay character or Black female/white male relationship
>front and center?

You got a blind spot for black women. What about Ava, Issa, Dee Rees. Then there is Jordan Peele and Ryan Coogler.

There are absolutely more black films and TV then there was in the 80s. I did my thesis on Black Film and Spike Lee in 1999. There are way more opportunities for black filmmakers now then there were then.
You romanticising the 80s.

It's like that kind of Black production has
>been shut down.


It's not because we aren't still doing it,
>and I can't call exactly what it is (and Double 0 and BigReg,
>please spare me the "AIN'T NOBODY DOING IT" bs), but it seems
>to be a concerted effort to shut us out. This is why the
>whole Jay-Z and Puffy "do it like I did it" stuff is
>misguided. Those kinds of Black moguls and millionaires
>aren't being created anymore. In pop music, the gatekeepers
>seem to be only allowing a certain type in. With all the
>Black talent out here, how Sam Smith and Adele the most
>"soulful" singers on radio? That's not an accident. Bruno
>Mars is racially ambiguous like they like 'em now. Tori Kelly
>stay getting placement. Do you know who Curtis Harding is
>tho? Stacey Barthe? Brandee Younger?


Don't know any of those guys. I gave each about 30 seconds and I will give more time but I did hear Pop when I gave them a spin. And by Pop I mean crossover music attempted to appeal to the broadest audience possible.




>
>
>>The biggest pop star of all time was a black man. His name
>was
>>Michael Jackson. So I don't understand the argument that a
>>black artist doing the type of music Bruno Mars is doing
>would
>>never blow up as large as Bruno when in fact a black artist
>>blew up to levels that Bruno has not reached.
>>
>>You can also point to Prince. Or Lionel Richie in the 80s.
>
>
>Prince was also racially ambiguous, Lionel was light skinned,
>and MJ lightened himself for Thriller and continued to lighten
>himself. Terence Trent D'arby spoke in the late 80s/early 90s
>on how he was surprised at Seal's success since he was so
>dark, and the industry didn't usually get behind that.


Well know you talking colorism. That's a different issue. If you are arguing you got to be certain types of light skin to be a crossover success I would have less to disagree with you about.

But that's moving the fieldgoal from the argument that black artist can't succeed.



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"