https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html?

Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries in Oval Office meeting

By Josh Dawsey January 11 at 4:37 PM

President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met Wednesday.

The comments left lawmakers taken aback, according to people familiar with their reactions. Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) proposed cutting the visa lottery program by 50 percent and prioritizing countries already in the system, a White House official said.

A White House spokesman declined to offer an immediate comment on Trump’s remarks.

Despite criticism, a program that awards U.S. permanent residency through a lottery has been around for more than 20 years. This is how it works. (Claritza Jimenez/The Washington Post)

Outlining a potential bipartisan deal, the lawmakers discussed restoring protections for countries that have been removed from the temporary protected status program while adding $1.5 billion for a border wall and making changes to the visa lottery system.

The administration announced this week that it was removing the protection for citizens of El Salvador.

Trump had seemed amenable to a deal earlier in the day during phone calls, aides said, but shifted his position in the meeting and did not seem interested.

Graham and Durbin thought they would be meeting with Trump alone and were surprised to find immigration hard-liners such as Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) at the meeting. The meeting was impromptu and came after phone calls Thursday morning, Capitol Hill aides said.

After the meeting, Marc Short, Trump’s legislative aide, said the White House was nowhere near a bipartisan deal on immigration.

“We still think we can get there,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at the daily White House news briefing.

tired of universal health care, good public infrastructure and decent working hours? Boy are you in for a treat

and the strict immigration laws.

who are just as racist and condescending BTW

45 was born and grew up in the most diverse city in the world
yet thinks and talks like a 50's southerner
He must have hated life

on second thought, it's easy to think and talk like a klansman if you live in a bubble
Pretty sure he's never once rode the subway or walked 3 blocks in NY.

and walk it back when it comes out.

By people knowing about it

Norway is apparently very much a non-shithole.

Could've put a thicker veil on that racism.

would definitely agree with him on that statement.

Haiti and African countries are mostly black (or at least that's the perceprtion)

Norway is mostly white.


It's a classic passive-aggressive statement that leaves an out ("I was just saying...") while clearly conveying a coded message.

George Wallace was the godfather of coded racism. Trump is simply following that playbook.

That is the implication. Contrast with Norway where it is implied the people are
better because it’s not a shithole

He could have used a successful afican or carribean nation to compare if he wanted too

What?
Shaun was being facetious.
Not Trump.

successful by African/Caribbean standards.




>He could have used a successful afican or carribean nation to
>compare if he wanted too

I'm not sure I've ever hated anyone before, so I'm not sure exactly what that feels like, but I think this might be it.

isn't one tenth of the hate I feel for this dude.

I just want bad things to happen to this man...slowly.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

be like, not surprise here. Typical day in America today.

Bernie, Obama, Oprah - hell yeah

I'm sure there are some right-wing nuts ready to salute this idiot, but most Norwegians are pretty liberal and don't mess with this dude at all

https://twitter.com/AndUlv/status/951600595743444996

A lot of Swedes obviously

i get so tired of the media jumping on any little thing. this does not seem little at all. if there is no audio they will try their same old tactics but it may still stick.

might force an apology out of him which would hurt his base lol

would be kinda funny (in the sad way everything is now) if he calls to apologize to the countries. have one of them release audio of him apologizing and saying "you know i didn't mean your country, i meant ____." sadly a believable scenario.

There could be a video of him taking a sh*t on those countries on a giant fold out map while he says it and nothing would come of it.

Again, NOTHING this dude says will cause them to deviate from the cult

no question that there isnt a vile thing he could do that will hurt him with his base.

if he is forced to say im sorry that wont look good. i think appearances are all that matter. i guess he could do one of those fake apologies then double down afterwards on his original comments again.

the original thing that made many of us miscalculate his campaign as grand/opening grand closing, so i don't even see a forced apology in the fold like with the nazi thing

https://twitter.com/Jason_Brudereck/status/951594058882875392

They agree with Trump as he says what they wish they could. He said what he did because he knows his base, knows white people, and can suffer no consequence in this life or at the very least as president

I read his book the head game, some good practical analysis tips in there... these days he keeps saying what he means and saying it well.

Identity/supremacy? The Italian Irish white Latino thing is a major me too that is mad disingenuous. They got called names?! How awful

as much as it was the folly and ignorance of prejudice and bigotry...

but yeah I'm sure not going to try dying on the hill of the idea that the Italian and Irish or any Europeans experience was equal or even comparable to that of an African's or <insert non caucasian>

gotta sell that outrage so the can sell.handsoap at the commercial break

what are they talking about in the white house regarding immigration that haiti and nigeria/africa keeps coming up?

i'm genuinely curious. any new immigration/crime stats i should be aware of? i mean i'm glad he's given the mexican rapists angle a break but i assume his base is barely aware of african immigrants even existing. also: are there any states where poor whites are competing with haitians for jobs? what's the angle here?

Haitians traditionally settled in Miami.
However, Little Haiti is next on the gentrification list so they've been moving out
Growing communities in Tampa, Orlando, and Jacksonville

These are all purple cities. FL in general is the deep south outside of the cities anyway so unlike Miami where YT's are like 2 % of the population, in these other places they gotta be looking sideways at Haitians

after his base and the right wing communicators got on his case about seeming to go soft on DACA and the wall...

this coming out was similar to him going at the NFL players out of the blue..

it's red meat to his base ....it's red meat to most of white right wingers...


over the next few days he'll likely double down on this sentiments..... it will be interesting to see his minions go on tv to supporting the sentiment.... you'll see some of his coon supporters ..may even see some actual Hatians and African republicans go on TV and say their homeland is exactly what Trump said it was...

he's a white supremacist... and people who support him are mostly the same....and/or just friggin dumb as shit...

Her parents are immigrants from Haiti (how she became Morman, I don't know).

White supremacist in defense of her non white country

Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

>Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these
>days

haven't heard a peep from her until now....all the insults and supporting white supremacy ..she had nothing to say...

didn't want to risk her chances to get re-elected ..

now because it hits closer to home, she feels like they'll give her a pass in utah to say something..

but before...she kept her mouth shut..

>after his base and the right wing communicators got on his
>case about seeming to go soft on DACA and the wall...
>
>this coming out was similar to him going at the NFL players
>out of the blue..
>
>it's red meat to his base ....it's red meat to most of white
>right wingers...
>
>
>over the next few days he'll likely double down on this
>sentiments..... it will be interesting to see his minions go
>on tv to supporting the sentiment.... you'll see some of his
>coon supporters ..may even see some actual Hatians and African
>republicans go on TV and say their homeland is exactly what
>Trump said it was...
>
>he's a white supremacist... and people who support him are
>mostly the same....and/or just friggin dumb as shit...
>
>

but this legitimately upset me to the point I lost some appetite for proper food when I heard about this last night. I guess it's because despite how low of an opinion I have for this dude, this took me a bit by surprise.

is because young non-Black minds do look to the President for an overall tone of what is "acceptable", and these young non-Black kids in the USA are being "shown" by the President that being very "nasty" towards Black people is "acceptable"

I personally felt the President is trying to embolden a nasty environment for Black people.


So....

A President deliberately trying to create a nasty environment for my group is definitely disturbing.

One reason I was upset is because of how overtly ignorant the comments were and secondly is because he didn't say this in front of a crowd to rally support via the lowest common denominator type commentary. He said what he said in front of other government officials in the course of shaping legislation, which means his backwards way of thinking is officially shaping the course of the country. Not to say it wasn't before, but his comments yesterday made it abundantly clear for all to see.

Like I said, I already didn't have the highest opinion of this dude, but yesterday truly floored me.

More than it’s not

meeting. I want to know how people heard him say it and didn't speak up. If Charles Schumer was there and didn't call him and/or go tell the press what he said, then Charles Schumer is complicit in protecting that dirtbag's blatant racism.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

the same place according to what I heard on Democracy Now.


Don't hold ur breath.

Always have been since at least the end of reconstruction

https://twitter.com/msnbc/status/951822358649737217

really a question of whether he said it.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Lindsey Graham is avoiding the topic publicly. But he apparently confirmed it with Tim Scott

"President Trump brought everyone to the table this week and listened to both sides. But regrettably, it seems that not everyone is committed to negotiating in good faith. In regards to Senator Durbin's accusation, we do not recall the President saying these comments specifically, but what he did call out was the imbalance in our current immigration system, which does not protect American workers and our national interest. We, along with the President, are committed to solving an issue many in Congress have failed to deliver on for decades."
— Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue

Remember earlier in the week they were praising him for that "transparent meeting" they had.

Folks needed the reminder.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I wouldn't do it but I hear a lot of folks say it works. People likely to kiss their dogs on the mouth in fact.

and the news was praising him because he paid attention, stayed in his chair and didn't name call.

nothing was accomplished as result of the meeting.

(c) dana bash on cnn

its been over 2 years since the start of his campaign and these folks are still trying to convince people of some presidential pivot.

based off a photo op where nothing actually happened or was agreed to.

the constant bar lowering of our mainstream media is a big reason why we are here in the 1st place.

saying CNN and them were on point when they were talking about him in the meeting, even though the praise was some parent teacher conference shiit
"He listened, and paid attention. he waited his turn to speak.."

too bad they weren't mocking him and were legit impressed

what a time to be alive

>and the news was praising him because he paid attention,
>stayed in his chair and didn't name call.


They tried it with Hilary, but it didn't work... the whole "anything's better than Trump" angle. Now, despite all the vile stuff Oprah has said and done in relation to the Black community, emotionally-ruled negros are screaming to have her as president and saying things like "her policies don't even matter" <-I mean, imagine that. That's where standards have fallen, all because Trump is so childish as to be praised for not namecalling. The American public (especially the Black public) are far too easy to manipulate.

Apparently, they rather risk their lives being an (illegal) immigrant in a country that's prospering than a native citizen in a country that's struggling.