Ginuwine Refused To Kiss A Trans Woman On Live TV And Now The Internet Is At War
https://www.bet.com/music/2018/01/08/ginuwine-big-brother-celebrity-trans-woman-twitter-debate.html

I had to make sure this wasnt a fake or onion article

To avoid being transphobic, you have to be willing to have relations with a transgender person? Is that the line now?

.

On one hand I want to get upset because it challenges my ideals and I think that I am progressive (going to play the "yes, I have several trans friends" card here) but I am not interested in having a romantic relationship with a trans person and so I am in a loop of thinking "am I a good person or not a good person?"

On the other hand I'm trying to "get it"

But, thats a weird one because as I understand it, the motivation and outlook varies widely from individual to individual. Some trans individuals want to be accepted on all levels as the gender they are presenting while others and the folks who have relationships with them love the middle ground/third gender space some may occupy

Factor on how you classify their gender.

There's plenty of cisgender women I don't want to have sex with, but I still recognize them as being women.

someone else allegedly being mad about something no one is mad about.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

from random accounts with barely hundreds of followers and even fewer interactions on their tweets to try to amp the reaction and color the convo.

'twitter exploded over the news that...'

they need to end that shit.

early on i would think "twitter reactions are not news" then over the last few years i've accepted that some newsworthy reactions/tweets/etc are on there. but it annoys me to no end when reading news articles about people's anger over some of the pettiest shit imaginable.

clickbait is clickbait, motivated by money so things like this (articles, etc) will never stop until we stop clicking on it

lol

putting brothers out there in awkward situations
guilt trip city

"twitter is mad!"

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as if it it's not the same people on facebook and twitter and whatever else.

No..

twitter cares not..

this is barely an article

but if they have a few hundreds it’s fake news?

Asking for a friend

No matter the number of followers.

If the person commenting has a lot of followers because she is famous, then the story is about her, not the Twitter population

want to date a trans person and that it's not assault for that trans woman to try and force themselves on a dude.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

1) 5 people saying something crazy isn't newsworthy.
To even report on it at all is a tactic of legitimizing
the insanity.

2) Another specific way this story seems to be seeking
to legitimize a very small minority of insane people is
by not reporting a solid rebuttal to the idea that not
dating a trans woman is akin to not dating a black person.
At the very least, an alleged Black website should point
out how ridiculous that is... but this is what happens
when so-called "Black media" is owned by white folks.
It's not ironic AT ALL that that was the first tweet listed
on the site either.

and that doesnt pay the bills

if you got suckered into clicking that absolute bullshit it's your fault.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

This is in no way transphobic. We gotta kiss everybody who wants us to kiss them now to show acceptance?

>This is in no way transphobic. We gotta kiss everybody who
>wants us to kiss them now to show acceptance?

Coolio just went through the same thing with a transexual porn star after he refused to smash.

The real test to this situation comes when transexual presses Lena Dunham or Amy Schumer.

And I don't think that by itself should be seen as some sort of moral failing on their part nor do they owe an explanation.

Gender identity
Race
Income/education level
Religion
Looks/weight
The day of the week
Wearing a sweater

If someone doesn't want to fuck with you like that and is POLITELY declining that should be the end of the discussion.

we can say no? who knew....

I wouldn't kiss her either.

I'd kiss Gabi Garcia tho.

Send your shots the other way not this one.

https://imgur.com/VEEcUrk

Gabi is more of a freak of nature as far as having the genetics down pat, IMO.

and turned on at the same time.

false equivalency, I'm sorry.

I'm sayin tho'...she did look like a dude.

THEN??!?!?

http://www.okayplayer.com/culture/ginuwine-transphobic-refusing-kiss-transwoman-tv.html

HUH, RRJCC? Huh, OO Whatever your name is?



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I don't know why you think I have anything to do with what happens there.

I have a news organization I work for -- it's not that one.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Between this and that article decrying "Ghetto Safaris" through Bushwick (which at no point quoted anybody calling the street art tours anything of the sort, but simply dishonestly used the term in quotes within the headline to create outrage), I'm not sure who the fuck is hiring these folks but they are a major embarrassment.

is that what they call "sketchy" now? Jesus

who called it that.

Nowhere in the article did any participant in the street art tours in question, or anyone else, characterize the tours in that way.

It's racist and inciting clickbait by the editors of the OKP front page.

and he is Transphobic for stating he wouldn't date a transgender woman.

So both parties are wrong. Just say "You are not my type" and keep it moving.

>and he is Transphobic for stating he wouldn't date a
>transgender woman.
>

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com

>and he is Transphobic for stating he wouldn't date a
>transgender woman.
>
>So both parties are wrong. Just say "You are not my type" and
>keep it moving.

This is what you are telling me?

>and he is Transphobic for stating he wouldn't date a
>transgender woman.
>
>So both parties are wrong. Just say "You are not my type" and
>keep it moving.

Or is this a one way street?

These folks don’t realize how bigoted they sound by saying this shit.

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The same way that if a white person wouldn't date black they are discriminatory. Or if a black person wouldn't date white is discriminatory.

I would just say that in a lot of instances some discrimination is perfectly acceptable. I wouldn't date a dumb chick, I discriminate against dumb people. Society thinks that okay.

I wouldn't date white. I discriminate against white people when it comes to dating. Society thinks that's okay.

If a white person says they wouldn't date a black person, that of course is discriminatory, and I think a lot of society doesn't think that is okay. At the same time a white person could have only dated white people in their life and that might be their preference, and society thinks that okay.

But to say I would not date a trans woman is more than a preference since it's a categorical exclusion and is discriminatory, but I am okay with that and wouldn't try and call it something else.







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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I have a preference. That should be enough.

I have a preference for black women. But if I met a bad Asian jawn I would date her. But the same wouldn't go for a white woman for me personally.

I have a preference for black women and I discriminate against white women (with regards to dating).

I think the term discriminate is so loaded that people dont' want to have anything to do with it but sometimes it's accurate and sometimes its acceptable to discriminate.


I see people doing all these acrobats to not admit that it's discrimination but if you say you would never date a certain type of person catergorically that's more than a preference and it's discrimination. but it's okay sometimes.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

1.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.

2.
make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, sex, or age.


According to the above, it can simply be a
distinction, or it can be an unjust distinction.

From what I'm reading in your responses, you're
going with the first one, as there's nothing
inherently "unjust" about a black man preferring
black women.

Thing is, we have to know a person's motives to
determine whether their discrimination is just
or unjust when it comes to dating preferences
concerning race, and it accomplishes next to
nothing to reveal it since ppl can make whatever
choice they want to make in that regard, and that's
usually what the conversation comes down to, even
when you have a black person who only dates white
folks because they hate themselves and their people...
it's not like we can call divine law on this "injustice" lol.

Since it's ok in dating but not in something like
housing, I think definition 1 should be the only
one (as it is on dictionary.com)... even when
you look at a term like "racial discrimination"
(cool in dating but not in housing). In short,
I'm just saying people react strongly to the word,
because they think you're accusing them of an
injustice, essentially.




>I think the term discriminate is so loaded that people dont'
>want to have anything to do with it but sometimes it's
>accurate and sometimes its acceptable to discriminate.
>

If I don't want to date trans, or underaged, or hell, older than 45, or men, that doesn't mean I'm legit discriminating against them.

Surprised you didn't simply flip (or change) the genders in this scenario to see how ridiculous it is.

For the last few years there's been a push on social media and articles written about men feeling entitled to sex and attention from women (which we AREN'T that, message does need to be spread)

It's presented as a flaw of male culture, but NOBODY reacts well to being told that someone doesn't find them attractive or engage in romantic activity (Men are more likely to react violently/try to force sex to occur)

98% sure he was trolling, but he said women who wouldnt date bisexual men are bigots

I dont have statistics and I wont bother looking them up because Im sure Im right, but there are more straight people attracted to the opposite gender than gay/transgender people in the world. the majority of the human population cant be guilty of discrimination for doing what comes natural to them

as for interracial dating, I think that's more of a cultural thing. i.e. someone who grew up around blackness is less likely to stray from that

>and he is Transphobic for stating he wouldn't date a
>transgender woman.
>

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com

>and he is Transphobic for stating he wouldn't date a
>transgender woman.
>
>So both parties are wrong. Just say "You are not my type" and
>keep it moving.

I'm mad about that

Ludicrous
Fabulous


^^^ all wrong

If I ever do need to spell it out I'm rappin in my head "Fa-bo-lo-us.

OutKast, pronounced outcast
Adjective meaning homeless, or unaccepted in society
But let's look deeper than that
Are you an OutKast?
If you understand and feel the basic principles and
Fundamental truths contained within this music, you probably are
If you think it's all about pimpin' hoes and slamming Cadillac do's
You probably a cracker, or a nigga that think he a cracker
Or maybe just don't understand
An OutKast is someone who is not considered to be part of the normal world
He is looked at differently
He is not accepted because of his clothes, his hair
His occupation, his beliefs or his skin color
Now look at yourself, are you an OutKast? I know I am
As a matter of fact, fuck being anything else


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

>OutKast, pronounced outcast
>Adjective meaning homeless, or unaccepted in society
>But let's look deeper than that
>Are you an OutKast?
>If you understand and feel the basic principles and
>Fundamental truths contained within this music, you probably
>are
>If you think it's all about pimpin' hoes and slamming Cadillac
>do's
>You probably a cracker, or a nigga that think he a cracker
>Or maybe just don't understand
>An OutKast is someone who is not considered to be part of the
>normal world
>He is looked at differently
>He is not accepted because of his clothes, his hair
>His occupation, his beliefs or his skin color
>Now look at yourself, are you an OutKast? I know I am
>As a matter of fact, fuck being anything else
>
>
>"Get ready....for your blessing....."

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Skipping the trans angle for a sec, she's just not attractive.

>https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/pri_64400920.jpg?w=748&h=392&crop=1
>https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/948326761753907201/2qjcPwhJ_400x400.jpg
>
>
>Skipping the trans angle for a sec, she's just not
>attractive.


Let my love slide in and never slip out

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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