plus I get 8% back from Ebates. Might cop:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cole-Haan-Mens-Keaton-Waterproof-Hiker-II-Woodbury-Dark-Roast-Waterproof/222689197829?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=521544016358&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649