https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html


and he's still gonna win...smh

yep he will win.

But yeah, as long as he doesn't declare his support of gay marriage he's got this locked down.

And some in Alabama shrugged. “There’s nothing to see here,” said Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler, a longtime supporter of Mr. Moore. “Single man, early 30s, never been married, dating teenage girls. Never been married and he liked younger girls. According to the Washington Post account he never had sexual intercourse with any of them.”

HO-LEE-FUCK

He also said

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/alabama_state_auditor_jim_zeig.html

"Zechariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist," Zeigler said. "Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

Y'all are making shit worse

n/m

Moore sounds like he doesn't get it.

just so as long as there's a "(R)" (i.e. Not "Negro") beside the name

mitch knows if one of these anti mcconnell niggas get in...2018 primaries are gonna be full of em.

per alabama election law...moore has to be listed on the ballot regardless of if he stops his campaign (need 76 days before election to officially withdraw).

so repubs would have to offer a write-in candidate...but that would split the r ballot with moore and possibly help get dem doug jones get elected. and mcconnell would prefer that over having roy moore in the senate.

he can blame lack of legislation passage on a slimmer senate majority (and hopefully keep some donors in tow by asking them to help expand the majority in 2018). this will also help curb the momentum of the bannon 'civil war' against the repub establishment.

i got friends at 2 media outlets that are hearing buzz around their industry that theres a hit piece coming on bannon too. mcconnell and his allies dont play.

more info on the Bannon hitpiece.

journalists are pretty good at keeping things under wraps until around the time the story blows.

but other journalists pick up on the scent of something about to come when newsrooms start buzzing, old research starts getting requested and confirmed, loose ends start getting tied up, etc.

getting involved in politics after this last prez election and interacting with media folks on the ground has really opened my eyes to the life cycle of breaking scoops at places like dailybeast, motherjones, axios, wapo, etc.

>journalists are pretty good at keeping things under wraps
>until around the time the story blows.
>

Yeah they are good at holding the story.

>but other journalists pick up on the scent of something about
>to come when newsrooms start buzzing, old research starts
>getting requested and confirmed, loose ends start getting tied
>up, etc.
>
>getting involved in politics after this last prez election and
>interacting with media folks on the ground has really opened
>my eyes to the life cycle of breaking scoops at places like
>dailybeast, motherjones, axios, wapo, etc.


Sounds interesting.

That's a hell of a message to send to Bannon.

let him get elected and then try to get him ejected over the accusations

but if they follow through on that weak ass write-in shit...i dunno...i think he'll still win lol

Mitchelangelo gonna have to do some grassroots organizing for the Dem candidate lol

They said the same thing about Trump though so......

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/09/roy-moore-sex-accusations-244747

McCain is the only one saying point blank that Moore should drop out, but he's been in dgaf mode for a while

https://twitter.com/KSchultz3580/status/928710210197135360

Four stages of GOP scandal response:
1. As the father of a daughter, I'm outraged.
2. If the allegations are true, he should step down.
3. While I have my differences with him, I support my party's nominee.
4. Look, I'm focused on tax cuts.

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/928726370745831424/photo/1

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/928734837887954950

https://twitter.com/SamuraiForTrump/status/928721485249826816

https://twitter.com/Senate_Fund/status/928736452749463553

this is escalating pretty quickly.

https://www.axios.com/republicans-worry-roy-moore-will-cost-them-a-senate-seat-2508618399.html
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A Republican close to McConnell said that contrary to the view we originally reported here, McConnell has "led the pack on Moore from day one": "McConnell is a very pragmatic guy, but he's very principled guy. And he's willing to lose the seat to prevent someone who's guilty of these things from taking it."
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even tho it lessens the chance of legislation getting passed...better to let a dem hold that seat for 2 years than to welcome roy moore and have him hung around every repubs neck by every dem campaign in the country.

Moore will win.

elections will be won by democrats just by simply tying their republican opponents to moore.

painting repubs as the party hospitable to racists is already causing them to shed support in the suburbs. add pedophilia/hebephilia/ephebophilia to the mix?

establishment repubs know this. they dont want moore in the senate. they dont even know if he will support the agenda or be the freedom caucus on steroids in the senate. he has already been hostile to mitch mcconnells leadership.

theres plenty of risk in a moore win.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/everyone-thought-it-was-weird-deputy-da-who-served-with-moore-confirms-he-dated-high-school-girls/

https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/929747192176193537

http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2017/11/doug_jones_takes_lead_on_roy_m.html

46-42. I don't really believe it. But interesting nonetheless.

Moore was a super weak candidate to begin with. But for this to even be a contested race in Alabama is crazy.
Sessions spot was supposed to be the safest seat to replace,

he squeaked by his last state supreme court election in 2012 52%-50% against democrat bob vance who entered the race super late.

the bob vance campaign almost upset moore by targeting moderate republican women in the suburbs. thats a demographic republicans are shedding pretty fast right now (almost -4% drop from 2016 to 2017 in virginia). the sexual predator rep is gonna catalyze that.

moore won this years repub primary convincingly (which is easier for outsiders to do nowadays with the flood of money from pacs in our electoral system) but primary voters dont always reflect general voters 1:1. there were plenty of well-funded tea party candidates who won their primaries but were too extreme/crazy for the general...even in red leaning areas.

evangelicals will prolly put moore over the top because they are hypocritical pieces of shit (and they vote their asses off). but its gonna be close imo.

if dc repubs decide to put a write-in candidate on the ballot like luther strange then the whole game changes and doug jones prolly wins because of the split r vote.

they really need to keep her away from shit like this.

as soon as people see her involved...the credibility of all accusers takes a hit in their eyes. shit looks like a political/media stunt.

Seems like she does a press conference with a new victim and that’s the last you hear of it. Never hear any follow ups or settlements involving her people.

i dont even know how she gets paid from shit like this.

came with visual evidence and everything.
said she wasnt seeking a criminal or civil suit.
offered to testify under oath in a congressional hearing.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/930129858755166208

no more 'if these allegations are true'.

they must have gotten back some bad polling.

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930128259035082756

the gop civil war is on.
these niggas really fighting over teenage girls.

>
>the gop civil war is on.


This won't lead to sh!t.

In fact, the pedo will probably win and in a few weeks/months they will all be popping bottles celebrating tax reform.


If the GOP could be killed/split by an ethical issue, it would have been dead long ago.

if he does get elected...they would most likely work to block him from being seated.

this is new territory.

>if he does get elected...they would most likely work to block
>him from being seated.
>
>this is new territory.


After it dropped a lot of Republicans called for Trump to step aside.

In fact, a lot of people labelled it "new territory"



My point is none of us should count on "norms" or logic.


I'm speaking on this issue and in general terms.

Dems keep saying "this is it! This is going to bring down the GOP!"

...and it doesn't.

And I hope the Dems have a better plan than the same old "look how awful the GOP is" strategy.

you pretending tax "reform" is going to pass when they couldn't get a healthcare bill remotely passed

they are actively undermining this dude's campaign...

they did that with trump to try and steal his spot...it would be more similar if they actively tried to raise Hillary's chances of winning

FAIL

It's Alabama dude...Moore will win in a nailbiter, another "moral victory" for Dems
meanwhile Mitch will pivot to "the people have spoken" and Bannon will keep loading up his ammo and aiming it at the turtle

then it sinks moore.

i think thats what will end up happening. if they dont and he wins then they will work to unseat him (along with dems). mitch has gone all in on labeling him a pedo now. no way he just backs down.

He can directly run in opposition of the McConnell now. No need to be dancing around it anymore with talk of the "establishment".

Only person better to run against than McConnell is Clinton.

the general electorate might be a lil more moderate but we will see.

kinda crazy how radicalized the republican party has become. they basically just believe in resentment politics now. their whole platform is based on who they hate. dems, obama, clinton, liberals, hollywood, media, colleges...now establishment members of their own party. they are running outta targets to aim their base at.

wouldnt be surprised if in another year or two they run on an agenda of hating yourself for not 'conservative' enough.

"Lookatcha!! You think you're conservative? You're NOT!!
Look at your bed sheets...are they mixed fabrics? EXACTLY"


>
>wouldnt be surprised if in another year or two they run on an
>agenda of hating yourself for not 'conservative' enough.

straight religious fundamentalist "we have the truth" if you're not with us you're an infidel heathen that deserves to burn in hell

Bannon= Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (self-proclaimed leader)
Breitbart= Dabiq magazine (alternate reality fantasyland)
Charlotteville neo-nazis= foreign jihadis (Jews will not replace us)
"economic issues" 45 voter= radical salafi jihadi

Both extremes meet with one aim: to kill Americans

Because the Dem party so god awful at this sh!t, the "ISIS" of political parties wins more often than not.

I mean, homeboy is in here celebrating that the Pedophile is "only" up by 10 points.


Because at the end of the day, the Dem branding is complete garbage. They have no message other than "look how terrible the GOP is"

They rarely give people a reason to vote FOR THEM.

the extreme ideological bernie bros just don't get it
YOU HAVE TO MOVE TO THE MIDDLE TO BUILD A COALITION TO WIN ELECTIONS
the average voter DGAF about gender pronouns and shit
they do give a big fuck about health care and taxes and jobs

Some Obama voters turned around and voted for 45. How is that possible?

Obama was the outsider even tho he was a Senator. He was green and didn't have a track record to bash

I always said 45 was Obama without a brain. No record in government, new energy, talked mad shit but also cracked jokes.

and I still don't buy that people who voted for Obama voted for 45. I think that's a fucking lie they tell to make them sound less like assholes. Then again, it may have been there "I'm not a racist" vote.

and one more thing. Obama went up against McCain and a fucking idiot from Alaska and then he ran against a Billionaire Mormon who lived in Mass.

as popular as trump is there...roy moore ran AGAINST the candidate that trump endorsed and still won. what does that tell you about moore and the alabama electorate?

>I mean, homeboy is in here celebrating that the Pedophile is
>"only" up by 10 points.

youre obviously unaware or uninformed about conditional/situational/regional politics. you think the same standards/factors that apply in a place like ny also apply across the board in a place like alabama.

southern politics is dominated by republican/evangelical voters in off year, midterm, and special elections by an even wider margin than presidential elections. add to that what i mentioned above...a 20 pt collapse from the presidential election a year ago would be significant in itself.


>Because at the end of the day, the Dem branding is complete
>garbage. They have no message other than "look how terrible
>the GOP is"
>
>They rarely give people a reason to vote FOR THEM.

this broken record slogan only comes from armchair analysts and low information observers.

once again...blame is not being placed on the electorate. we have seen how crazy these folks are. they picked the absolutely craziest candidate in the republican primary against even another republican. they would rather vote for a culture warrior than someone who might actually make their life better (like most republicans in the south). the fact that they support a sexual predator is squarely on *their* soldiers. nobody elses.

what should the dem message be to folks like that? we hate blacks and gays and fuck children too? lol.

dems have already flipped 40+ seats across the country from red to blue (0 for republicans). a historic number in an off-year. they just flipped a state seat and mayoral seat in ruby red oklahoma last night. i guess the non-existent dem message is working? lol.

twitter can be goddamn ruthless at times lol

This would be unprecedented, right? He wins the election and then the Senate votes him out. Yikes.

“I believe the individuals speaking out against Roy Moore spoke with courage and truth, proving he is unfit to serve in the United States Senate and he should not run for office,” said Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “If he refuses to withdraw and wins, the Senate should vote to expel him, because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate."

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/13/mcconnell-i-believe-the-women-accusing-roy-moore-244840

if republicans are trashing him publicly...they arent doing it out of morality. its a political calculation. they saw some internal polling.

for them to move from 'if the allegations are true...' to 'fuck it get him outta here by any means necessary' within such a short span of time...they know how toxic he already is even to voters from their own party.

enough repub moderates might just stay home or vote for doug jones.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html#polls

the newest round is anywhere from tie, to jones +4, to moore +10. but even that poll that has moore +10 had moore +22 a month and half ago. so clearly there is a lot of movement away from moore.

the rnc/nrsc internals prolly show something similar.

I mean...it is Alabama. Based on the current conditions, I think Moore still wins.

He just got a letter of support from a bunch of pastors:

"For decades, Roy Moore has been an immovable rock in the culture wars - a bold defender of the "little guy," a just judge to those who came before his court, a warrior for the unborn child, defender of the sanctity of marriage, and a champion for religious liberty. Judge Moore has stood in the gap for us, taken the brunt of the attack, and has done so with a rare, unconquerable resolve."

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/53_pastors_sign_letter_of_supp.html

A woman says Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore sexually assaulted her when she was a minor.

Beverly Young Nelson said Monday that the alleged incident occurred in 1977, when she was a 16-year-old waitress in a Gadsden, Ala., restaurant where Moore was a regular customer and would often flirt with her.

A week or two later, Nelson said, she was waiting to get a ride home from work from her boyfriend, who was late, when Moore offered to drive her. Nelson said that Moore groped her in his car without her consent. When she told him to stop, Nelson said Moore squeezed the back her neck and tried to force her head “onto his crotch.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-woman-accuses-roy-moore-sexual-assault-minor-202055321.html

“I was terrified,” Nelson said in a detailed statement delivered at a press conference in New York City, where she was introduced to reporters by her lawyer, Gloria Allred. “I thought that he was going to rape me.”

Nelson said that at some point Moore gave up and warned her not to tell anyone about the encounter.

“He then looked at me and said, ‘You are a child. I am the district attorney,'” Nelson recalled. “If you tell anyone about this, no one believe you.”

A spokesman for Moore’s campaign did not immediately return a request for comment, but Moore has fiercely denied previous accusations.

Nelson said that she met Moore when she was a 15-year-old waitress at the restaurant. On Dec. 22, 1977, Nelson said that she brought her high school yearbook to work, and Moore asked her to sign it.

To a sweeter, more beautiful girl, I could not say a more Merry Christmas,” Moore allegedly wrote in Nelson’s yearbook, signing it: “Love, Roy Moore D.A.”

She showed the page to reporters at the press conference.

Nelson is the fifth woman to accuse Moore of sexual misconduct.

She said she was inspired to come forward by Moore’s other accusers.

“If I thought I was Mr. Moore’s only victim, I probably would have taken my secret to my grave,” Nelson said. “Mr. Moore no longer has any power over me, and I will no longer live in fear.”

Allred, who represented some of the women who accused President Trump and Bill Cosby of sexual misconduct or assault, called for a Senate hearing on the allegations. Nelson, Allred said, is willing to testify under oath.

On Thursday, the Washington Post published its bombshell report quoting a woman, Leigh Corfman, who alleged that in 1979 — when she was 14 and Moore was 32 — Moore partially undressed her and himself, touched her over her undergarments and guided her hand to touch him. The age of consent in Alabama was then and continues to be 16.

The story also quoted three other women who said Moore hit on them when they were 16 to 18 and he was in his 30s. Moore initially dismissed the entire report as “fake news” and an attack by “the Democratic Party and the country’s most liberal newspaper.” On Friday, Moore denied even knowing Corfman, who told the Post she with her mother when she met him. Her mother, Nancy Wells, confirmed her daughter’s account.

On Sunday, a defiant Moore told supporters that said he intends to sue the newspaper, and questioned the timing of the accusations.

“These attacks said I was with a minor child and are false and untrue — and for which they will be sued,” Moore said. “Why would they come now? Because there are groups that don’t want me in the United States Senate.”

“We do not plan to let anybody deter us from this race,” he added.

Moore’s wife, Kayla, dismissed suggested his accusers were part of a concerted smear campaign.

“This is the same Gloria Allred that did the very exact thing to Trump during his campaign,” she wrote in a Facebook post on Mondaymorning. “Going on two months now they’ve been on a witchhunt here.”

Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said the Senate should vote to expel Moore should he refuse to withdraw from the race.

“I believe the individuals speaking out against Roy Moore spoke with courage and truth, proving he is unfit to serve in the United States Senate,” Gardner said in a statement. “If he refuses to withdraw and wins, the Senate should vote to expel him, because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate.”

Earlier Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that he believes the accusations in the Post report are true and that Moore should step aside.

“I believe the women, yes,” said McConnell, who backed Moore’s GOP challenger, Luther Strange, in the primary.

Moore responded via Twitter: The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp
10:40 AM - Nov 13, 2017

Moore and Democratic candidate Doug Jones are vying to the U.S. Senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions when he was appointed attorney general by President Trump. The special election is scheduled for Dec. 12.

Trump, who also backed Luther Strange, has yet to comment publicly on the allegations against Moore. Last week, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders told reporters aboard Air Force One that the president “believes that we cannot allow a mere allegation — in this case, one from many years ago — to destroy a person’s life.”

“However, the president also believes that if these allegations are true, Judge Moore will do the right thing and step aside,” Sanders added. “Regardless, the president must and will remain focused on representing our country on his historic trip to Asia where he has been treated with great respect and made unprecedented progress in further strengthening alliances and promoting America’s interests above all else.”

On Sunday, White House officials said they were disturbed by the allegations but cautioned against a rush to judgment against the Senate hopeful.

“I think that there’s a special place in hell for those who actually perpetrate these crimes,” White House director of legislative affairs Marc Short said on Sunday’s “Meet the Press” on NBC. “And I think Roy Moore has to do more explaining than he has done so far.”

who does that shit? teachers are the only adults i know that sign kids yearbooks w/o (necessarily) being on some creep shit.





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get at me this summer ass dude

we had some cool times ass ni&&a.

remember lake day ass bamma.


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Moore gets elected then gets expelled, the Al. governor can then appoint Jeff Sessions to the vacant seat.

New Attorney General is appointed and can fire Mueller.

*Edit*

But if Mr. Moore stays in and goes on to win, it could leave Senate Republicans with the difficult question of whether to stop him from being seated or seating him and immediately moving to expel him from the chamber.

One idea now being discussed under this scenario, brought up by two different White House officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, would be for Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama to immediately appoint Attorney General Jeff Sessions to what had been his seat when it becomes vacant again. Mr. Sessions remains highly popular among Alabama Republicans, but his relationship with President Trump has waned since he recused himself from the investigation of the role that Russia played in last year’s campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/us/politics/roy-moore-alabama-senate.html

nothing on this earth is gonna keep him from locking up some up black people and working to suppress their vote.

they could def expel moore and replace him with somebody else tho. prolly luther strange again.

yeah this is only gonna get worse.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall


Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was born in Gadsden, a small city flanked by Interstate 59 and the Coosa River, an hour northeast of Birmingham. Gadsden is hilly, woodsy, blue-collar, and religious. “LEGAL OR NOT, SIN IS SIN,” a sign in front of a church announced yesterday. I saw it as I drove around, crisscrossing George Wallace Drive. I also saw Trump posters, Confederate flags, and dozens of signs for Doug Jones, the Democrat tied with Moore in recent Senate-race polls. Gadsden is the seat of Etowah County, which is a conservative place; Donald Trump received three times as many votes in the county as Hillary Clinton did. (Statewide, he received twice as many.) But I didn’t, in all my driving, see a single yard sign for Moore, the home-town son. Even the parking lot of the one mall in town had more bumper stickers for Luther Strange (four), Moore’s opponent in the Republican primary, than for Moore himself (one).

The Gadsden Mall opened in 1974. It has two department stores, Belk and Sears, one on each end. Between them, on Sunday night, I walked past Books-A-Million, Cellular Solutions, a Japanese steak house, Great American Cookies, Blacklight Mini-Golf, KnockerBall Gadsden, an eyebrow-styling kiosk, and a clothing store for young girls, called Justice. A diverse assortment of families wandered around the place, which felt trapped in time. Two young security guards made their rounds. “It gets rough in here on Saturday nights,” one of them told me, mentioning fighting, stealing, and gun-toting. “We still have an active ban list,” the other said, referencing a list of chronic rule-breakers not allowed on mall property. “But it doesn’t go back that far.”

He meant back to the early eighties, when Roy Moore was, many people say, a regular visitor to the mall. On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that, when Moore was a thirty-two-year-old assistant district attorney in Etowah County, he brought Leigh Corfman, who was fourteen years old at the time, to his home and sexually molested her. Three additional women told the Post that Moore had pursued them when they were in their teens and he was in his early thirties. (On Monday, another woman, Beverly Young Nelson, said that Moore assaulted her when she was sixteen years old. At a press conference, she held up a high-school yearbook that she said Moore signed before the alleged assault.) Two of the women say that they first met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, and the Post reports that several other women who used to work there remembered Moore’s frequent presence—“usually alone” and “well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt.”

This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”
Greg Legat, who is now fifty-nine and living in East Gadsden, was, from 1981 to 1985, an employee at the Record Bar, a store that was in the Gadsden Mall. By the early eighties, Legat told me, the mall was “the place to be. There were no empty stores. And lots of kids came around. Lots of teen-agers. You went there to see and be seen.” Legat met his wife, Jo Anne, there. She worked at a restaurant called Orange Bowl. Legat remembers that parents dropped their kids off at the mall, typically unchaperoned. Teens filled the place.

Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore. A phone call to Hill’s number was not returned.

Reached by phone on Saturday, Thomas, who lives in the nearby town of Southside, declined to discuss the existence of a ban on Moore at the Gadsden Mall. “I don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. A former manager of the mall, who began working there in the late eighties, confirmed the existence of a ban list, but did not recall Moore being on the list during the manager’s tenure there. Barnes Boyle, who is eighty-six, also managed the mall, from 1981 to 1998. His wife, Brenda, told me that Moore was a longtime acquaintance of his—they went to the Y.M.C.A. together often—and that he planned to vote for him. The recent allegations against Moore, the Boyles thought, are likely liberal propaganda and, as Brenda put it, “a sign of the times.”

Jason Nelms, an I.T. worker who grew up in nearby Southside and now lives in Tennessee, regularly visited the Gadsden Mall as a teen-ager, in the early eighties. “It was a joke from one of the managers/assistant managers that they couldn’t keep an eye on their theater and an eye on the kids outside,” he explained to me via Facebook Messenger. “Us kids would congregate outside on the sidewalk near the theater after the mall closed on Friday and Saturday nights. Anyway, when asked why they had to keep an eye outside, they said that some older guy had been trying to pick up younger girls. They didn’t go beyond that but one of the concession workers whispered to us later that it was Roy Moore he was talking about.”

Gadsden’s current law-enforcement community could not confirm the existence of a mall ban on Moore. But two officers I spoke to this weekend, both of whom asked to remain unnamed, told me that they have long heard stories about Moore and the mall. “The general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates,” one of the officers said. The legal age of consent in Alabama is sixteen, so it would not be illegal there for a man in his early thirties to date a girl who was, say, a senior in high school. But these officers, along with the other people I spoke to, said that Moore’s presence at the mall was regarded as a problem. “I was told by a girl who worked at the mall that he’d been run off from there, from a number of stores. Maybe not legally banned, but run off,” one officer told me. He also said, “I heard from one girl who had to tell the manager of a store at the mall to get Moore to leave her alone.”

The second officer went further. “A friend of mine told me he was banned from there,” he said. He added, “I actually voted for Moore. I liked him at one time. But I’m basically disgusted now, to be honest with you. Some of the things he’s said recently, I’ve changed my tune completely about this guy.” He went on, explaining why Moore no longer appeals to him. “When I heard what he said on ‘Hannity’ the other night,” he said, referring to an appearance Moore made on Sean Hannity’s radio show last Friday, “I almost stood straight up. The thing about how he’s never dated anybody without their mother’s permission, that appalled me. That made me want to throw up. Why would you need someone’s permission to date somebody? I’m probably gonna write in Luther Strange.”
Moore has mounted various defenses since the Post story appeared. Among these is his “special concern for the protection of young ladies,” as he put it to Hannity. The Fox News host pressed for specifics. “I don’t know Ms. Corfman from anybody,” Moore went on. “I never talked to her, never had any contact with her.

Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false. I believe they are politically motivated. I believe they are brought only to stop a very successful campaign, and that’s what they are doing. I’ve never known this woman.” When questioned about the other women cited in the Post story, he said that he couldn’t be expected to remember every woman he’d ever dated. “After my return from the military,” he said, “I dated a lot of young ladies.”

locals putting their name on record.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/gadsden_residents_say_moores_b.html

Gadsden locals say Moore's predatory behavior at mall, restaurants not a secret

Roy Moore's penchant for flirting with teen girls was "common knowledge" and "not a big secret" around Gadsden, according to some area residents.

The Senate candidate has denied any wrongdoing in the wake of a report from The Washington Post in which four women accused Moore of inappropriate advances - and in one instance, a sexual encounter - toward them when they were teens and he was in his early 30s.

One of the four women claims she was 14 at the time, making her the only one whose claim would represent a legal violation. Moore has said he never met her. A fifth woman came forward this afternoon.

Moore and other Republican leaders have questioned why it took so long for his accusers, now in their 50s, to come forward publicly.

And yet people who lived in Etowah County during that time have said Moore's flirting with and dating much younger women and girls was no secret.

"These stories have been going around this town for 30 years," said Blake Usry, who grew up in the area and lives in Gadsden. "Nobody could believe they hadn't come out yet."

Usry, a traveling nurse, said he knew several of the girls that Moore tried to flirt with.

"It's not a big secret in this town about Roy Moore," he said. "That's why it's sort of frustrating to watch" the public disbelieve the women who have come forward, he said.

Colleagues and others who knew Moore told the Washington Post that he often walked alone around the Gadsden Mall.

The mall opened to great fanfare in 1974, anchored by department stores like Pizitz, Belk Hudson and Sears. It had a movie theater, lounge, drug store and restaurants including Morrison's Cafeteria.

It soon became a popular local hangout, especially for teenagers.

Wendy Miller told The Post that she was 14 and working as Santa's helper at the Gadsden Mall in 1977 when Moore first spoke with her and told her she looked pretty. Two years later, when she was 16, he asked her out on dates, although her mother wouldn't let her go.

Usry, who was a teenager at the time, remembers seeing Moore at the mall often.

"He would go and flirt with all the young girls," he said. "It'd seem like every Friday or Saturday night (you'd see him) walking around the mall, like the kids did."

Five other current and former Etowah County residents also spoke to AL.com with similar accounts.

"Him liking and dating young girls was never a secret in Gadsden when we were all in high school," said Sheryl Porter. "In our neighborhoods up by Noccalula Falls we heard it all the time. Even people at the courthouse know it was a well-known secret.

"It's just sad how these girls (who accused Moore) are getting hammered and called liars, especially Leigh (Corfman)."

On Monday, Beverly Young Nelson became the fifth accuser to come forward against Moore. During a press conference, she said she was a 16-year-old waitress at the Old Hickory House restaurant in Gadsden when Moore sexually assaulted her in his car. He was in his early 30s at the time, she said, and the district attorney of Etowah County.

Another former waitress, Victoria Beverstock, told AL.com today that she was 20 years old and working at The Poor House restaurant in 1992 when Moore came in a few times a week to eat and do paperwork.

She said he made her and the other waitresses uncomfortable by staring at them and flirting.

"He watched us girls quite openly," said Beverstock. "His eyes crawled over our shirts and our backsides. He was so open about it that I would try and handle his order as quickly as possible.

"When you didn't smile and flirt back with him, give him an opening, he became rude and demanding," she said.

Teresa Jones, who said she worked at the Etowah County District Attorney's Office with Moore, took to Twitter on Friday to say it was "common knowledge" that he pursued teenage girls.

"As a Deputy DA in Gadsden when Roy Moore was there, it was common knowledge about Roy's propensity for teenage girls," she tweeted. "I'm appalled that these women are being skewered for the truth."

She later told CNN that Moore often went to local high school events and other hangouts: "It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird...We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall."

Tony Hathcock is a photographer in Gadsden who told CBS News that he's known Corfman well for five years and believes her. They are both very conservative Republican voters, he said, and both voted for Trump. He said she had nothing to gain from speaking out, but felt safe speaking out now because her children are now adults.

He said that growing up in Gadsden, he'd heard rumors about Moore. Last week, he posted on Facebook a defense of Corfman. He said that even as a middle-schooler in Gadsden he'd heard stories from people he knew about Moore's behavior making them uncomfortable.

i can't even go "how tf did conservatives run and elect this guy over and over" because it's not even as bad as what's been going down in hollywood

we just need to keep all these receipts for the next health clinic/culture war/women's march when people act like feminism isn't needed.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jeff-flake-no-doubt-id-support-a-democrat-over-roy-moore/article/2640568

Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., said Monday that he would vote for Democrat Doug Jones over Judge Roy Moore in the Alabama special election for Senate and would support expelling Moore if he wins.

“I don’t think it will get to that,” Flake said regarding expulsion. “But if it does, yes.”

“If the choice is between Roy Moore and a Democrat — the Democrat, no doubt,” Flake said about the choice in the race.

“I would literally — if I were in Alabama — I would run to the polling place to vote for the Democrat.”

Flake is the second Republican to pre-emptively support expelling Moore from the Senate, after Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo., chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, made the initial call earlier Monday.

Five women have accused Moore of sexual improprieties dating back 40 years.

and flake manages to be both somehow.

jeff flake can show up and legislate for the good of the country and/or quit the party, but this is meaningless. just like mccain, he needs to prove this is about conscience and not about ego.

and people say theyre patriots, country over party, etc.

meanwhile theyre helping to ram through all of trumps unqualified/corrupt appointments including lifetime federal judges.

about this shit.

HANNITY: At that time in your life...Let me ask you this you do remember these girls would it be unusual for you as a 32 year old guy to have dated a woman as young as 17? That would be a 15 year difference or a girl 18. Do you remember dating girls that young at that time?

MOORE: Not generally, no. If did, you know, I'm not going to dispute anything but I don't remember anything like that.

HANNITY: But you don't specifically remember having any girlfriend that was in her late teens even at that time?

MOORE: I don't remember that and I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother. And I think in her statement she said that her mother actually encouraged her to go out with me.

see what Hannity did there
17, 18....aka barely legal
BTW I don't have to tell this board that barely legal is one of the biggest selling genres in pr0n
age of consent is also in play here...well done Murdoch

Meanwhile, the accusers are saying they were 14 when Moore got his pedo on
No way Hannity mentions "14"
You almost have to clap at the audacity...Murdoch runs game better than any pimp that's ever existed

Yeah Hannity tried to frame it up saying 17-18, but this statement right here is him admitting to exactly what the accuser claimed, which was 14-15...

MOORE: I don't remember that and I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother. And I think in her statement she said that her mother actually encouraged her to go out with me.

politics is the arena for such men

Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions, Paul Ryan.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/15/roy-moore-doug-jones-poll-244937

that seems a lil too dramatic. but fwiw the same poll (and assuming the same sampling methodology) had moore up 16 in october and 9 earlier this month before the scandal broke. even tho moore is still the real world favorite...a sudden shift like that (with more shoes possibly dropping before election day) would make anyone react.

i think they are prolly more worried about national polling tho. and what that could mean for the entire party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/14/alabama-pastor-says-man-posing-as-washington-post-reporter-offered-reward-for-dirt-on-roy-moore/

"We will not be investigating these claims, however we will be making a written report."

I don't like being a member of such a gullible species.

not subtle enough?

why does the dude sound like peter griffin doing a fake jewish voice?


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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html#polls

jones has just taken the lead on the rcp average.
even fox news has him up by 8 (they had northam winning by 6 i think).

whether that lead is accurate is debatable (and unlikely). but there is clearly a movement from moore to jones in every single poll. he seems to be losing most support with republican women.

Maybe his issues will suppress Republican turnout. But there is no way in hell someone who used to be a Moore supporter is gonna flip to the other guy.

But for the other guy to win, there needs to be mobilization/excitement of democrat voters. I don't know if bama has that in them

with todd akin and the 'legitimate rape' comment. he was projected to win big but made those comments and national gop leaders called for him to exit. but he defiantly stayed in the race and lost by like 15pts to claire mccaskill.

obviously this aint completely apples to apples but you would think dating teenage girls would be more impactful than a few words about abortion/rape lol.

a lot of good mechanics working in jones favor too. moore spent a lot of money in a rough primary against a heavily funded opponent. jones had about a month stretch where he was airing ads uncontested and building name recognition. the rnc and nrsc have stopped financially supporting moore too. meanwhile jones was bringing in $250k a day after the allegations started coming in.

jones has kept things local and kept the national party at arms length. but hes got a nice subtle slow creep gotv operation on the ground. not a bunch of young shiny face activist groups knocking on redneck doors lol. while moore is spending his days fighting off media at press conferences...jones is doing old school legwork in churches and town halls.

i still wouldnt push all my chips to the middle of the table but i think this thing is more competitive than people would like to believe.

I, for one, am shocked.

"He says it didn't happen. And you know, you have to listen to him also."
"We don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat"

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/21/trump-says-roy-moore-totally-denies-allegations-255551

they might be divided on what they love.
but they will always be united around what they hate.

But Trump just brought the whole watermelon to the party.

I wonder why.

but i think this seals his victory.

literally every person he endorsed in a republican primary has lost (he endorsed and campaigned for moores opponent). then he latches on late to the repub general nominee and takes credit when they win (in already red areas).

ed gillespie tanked when he was associated with trump (gillespie went out of his way to try to keep a distance. but trump kept tweeting his support lol)

moore is still the favorite. alabama is the reddest state in the country with a 2:1 ratio of registered repubs to dems.

but the fact the prez even felt the need to endorse now...and is considering campaigning...means they know the race is a live one.

https://twitter.com/WardDPatrick/status/933414040776400902

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/933413989027078144

lol.
its crazy to think people are gaining the nomination of the republican party by basically trashing and running against the republican party. like roy moore might galvanize more supporters attacking mitch than he does attacking dems or doug jones.

Enough time has passed for people in Alabama to get past it.

http://thehill.com/campaign-polls/362305-poll-roy-moore-up-5-points-on-dem-opponent

it's another pussygate situation

people just needed a week or two to find an excuse, or deflection to justify voting for a pedo

i dont think they were ever not gonna vote for moore (def not for jones). they just felt uneasy about declaring their vote immediately following the allegations.

media didnt do jones any favors by nationalizing the race and making it cosmopolitan vs country/rural.

its not necessarily in the bag by any stretch tho. dems outperformed polling in congressional special elections in kansas and montana due to energized turnout. the same applies here. and there are a lot more eligible black voters percentage-wise in this election than there were in ks and mn. plus you have a few repub write-ins that could split the ticket (other repub senator voted for a write-in).

moore is still the favorite but i think its gonna be closer than the current polling gap.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/363009-mcconnell-on-if-moore-should-be-senate-the-people-of-alabama-will-decide

McConnell on if Moore should be in Senate: The people of Alabama will decide
BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 12/03/17 01:14 PM EST


Asked by @GStephanopoulos if he believes Roy Moore should be in the Senate, @SenateMajLdr says, “I’m going to let the people of Alabama make the call.” https://t.co/grERTlnlwr #ThisWeek pic.twitter.com/s934L8feMB

— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) December 3, 2017
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Sunday that the people of Alabama will decide whether GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore is elected.

During an interview on ABC's "This Week," McConnell was asked whether he thinks Moore should be in the Senate.

"I'm going to let the people of Alabama make the call," McConnell said.

He was pressed on whether he is prepared to take action if Moore is elected.

"The Ethics Committee will have to consider the matters that have been litigated in the campaign should that particular candidate win," he said.

McConnell had previously called for Moore to step aside in the race for Alabama Senate after multiple women accused the former judge of sexual misconduct. Moore has denied the allegations.

McConnell said last month he believes the women who have accused Moore.

At the time, he joined a growing number of lawmakers who were calling for Moore to step aside in the race.

McConnell's apparent shift comes after President Trump last month appeared to throw his support behind Moore.

Trump in the past blasted Moore's Democratic opponent, saying Doug Jones would be a "disaster." He also said Republicans "don't need a liberal person" in the upper chamber.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/363239-rnc-reverses-will-support-moore-in-alabama

RNC reverses, will support Moore in Alabama
BY JACQUELINE THOMSEN AND OLIVIA BEAVERS - 12/04/17 08:55 PM EST

The Republican National Committee is reinstating its support of Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore after initially cutting ties over allegations of sexual misconduct, The Hill confirmed on Monday.

Breitbart News first reported that the RNC had decided to step back into the race just hours after President Trump fully endorsed the candidate.

Two sources confirmed RNC's renewed support.

"We can confirm our involvement in the Alabama Senate race," an RNC official told The Hill.

A second source close to the RNC told The Hill that "the Breitbart story is real.”

Trump endorsed Moore in a tweet that blasted out to millions of his followers as well as in a follow-up call aboard Air Force One, in which the president said, "Go get 'em, Roy."

The report comes after officials at the RNC and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC), the party's Senate campaign arm, told The Associated Press last month that they would not support Moore even after Trump stood by him.

“He denies it. He totally denies it," Trump told reporters at the White House last month. “Roy Moore denies it — that’s all I can say.”

The two GOP campaign groups cut ties with Moore in October, halting their financial and field support for his bid as a chorus of Republican lawmakers called on him to step aside.

Their decision to break ties with Moore came after a handful of women alleged that he made unwanted sexual advances while they were underaged minors and he was in his 30's.

Moore has repeatedly denied the allegations of wrongdoing.

His Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, appears to be reaping the financial surplus from the fallout. Jones's campaign raised more than $10 million in donations between Oct. 1 and Nov. 22, USA Today reported on Friday.

A spokesman for the RNC and a spokeswoman for the NRSC both did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the matter.

The NRSC, according to the Breitbart report, has still not thrown its support again behind Moore.

What changed?
This really is the pussy grabbing tape part 2.

it seemed like moore had recovered from the initial drop and was smooth sailing even with rnc/nrsc pulling support. it didnt seem like he needed the boost.

they must see something happening on the ground in their internal polling.

Maybe they've finally come to terms with the fact that Moore is probably gonna win.

If they expel him like everyone expected, it'll be a shitshow.

If they evade, Trump-style, until it blows over that one of their most visible senators is a pedophile, then they might not pay any price at all.

And it will blue over.

They're slowly learning how open they can be with their slimy political expediency in the modern age.

doesnt seem like they really wanna be associated with it. maybe trump pressured them.

mitt romney criticized it. steve bannon said romneys whole family aint shit. and romneys niece is head of the rnc lol.

repub senate campaign arm is still staying far away. which makes rnc involvement even more unusual.

they thought he would lose but now that he looks like he will win they want to look like they were by his side.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-moore-accuser-says-she-added-notes-to-his-yearbook-inscription/

She wrote the location and date where it happened. THE HORROR!!!

I guess CBS was running with the sensationalism too

it wasnt a forgery of the signature.

but it looks a lot more dishonest and gives fuel to moore supporters because they didnt disclose that info from the gate.

it was a simple thing to clear up early on.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/363990-fox-news-issues-correction-on-roy-moore-accuser-yearbook-forgery-headline?rnd=1512763203

https://twitter.com/DanielStrauss4/status/939587098243461120

trump held proxy rally in fl and now doing last minute robocalls
https://twitter.com/politico/status/939597064308187136

last minute conservative super pac money flooding the state in the last days.

something tells me repubs are seeing some soft support down there.

thinks the US has done some "bad things"...


guess what those bad things are


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/09/roy-moore-praise-putin-russia-alabama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIa_m1cu7Hc

burn the whole party down.

They gotta be trying to energize their people. Because this isn't even the slightest bit believable

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/364248-fox-news-poll-jones-leads-moore-by-10-points

sounds like they trying to scare them to the polls.

iont think jones is up 10 but their polling has been pretty reputable.

they had ralph northam up like 6 and people were skeptical.

amazing levels of ignorance on display ---> https://youtu.be/HjLMAoejW-A

like...the shit thats floating around in some folks heads is, simply fucking amazing.

"The future is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed"

If that statement is true, which I believe it is, then older person in Alabama almost represent a time warp.

I grew up in VA and live in NY. I had cousins in NYC growing up and even then I could see how long it would take ideas, fashion, culture to travel the 300 miles from NYC to VA.

I remember my cousins given albums and fashion to me that was initially made fun of that they eventually would all start following years later. The funny thing to me though is that even though I saw the certain NYC trends were ahead of the curve, I couldn't rush it (or maybe I just wasn't cool enough to set the trend).


So I never saw it as cultural wars but rather the resistance to change that is inevitable.

I see these voters and their ideas the same way.

These people will die. They will have children who are gay or will be in inter-racial relationships or at the very least have friends who are. They will fight it but their way of life will die out and be replaced with something different. Not necessarily all good, but different.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

the majority of the country is most likely center-left and getting more and more liberal.

but these old ass white people turn out at a higher rate across elections at every level than any other demo. and instead of even just voting for the stat quo, now they vote along an agenda of restoration/regression just because they fear/despise transformation.

and they elect politicians that make it harder for other groups of people to vote, get fair representation and influence policy in their best interests. and we also get regressive lifetime judges that cement conservative legal rulings for at least a generation.

15 if Trump can kill Obamacare.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

1) there are certainly people who feel that way about some of your beliefs and perspectives. obviously you disagree about what the present and future should look like. who's living in the right future?

2) gibson really was talking pretty literally about redistribution there. not just like population samples and generational change. our society is set up so death doesn't fix those issues, because wealth and ideas are passed on, and most communities are socially/culturally/politically/economically isolated.

It wasn't just old whites carrying tiki torches and it's not old whites throwing the annual racist theme party in college. Trump got in on more than old white people.

White people in every demographic voted in favor of Trump.
Old white people -- Trump
Young white people --Trump
College educated white people -- Trump
Non-college educated white people -- Trump
White men -- Trump
White women -- Trump


Yes, it's easy to see those view points as being out-dated and of the past. But that shit is still very much the present.

people said the same shit in the 90's. blaming 80 year old white people for racism, 20 years later and racism is still programmed into white people. as someone said above, those people with the torches on full display looked to be 20-50 years old.

he helped create these kinds of voters.

He didn't create em.. he just knows how to manipulate their feelings

Extremely well

he's enabled them for decades

I believe that she really believes that

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/940409570249371648

with these people.

dems gotta stop being so virtuous and start fear mongering, hyperbolizing, and stereotyping. plaster roy moore to the forehead of the entire gop. let everyone know the gop is the kingdom of roy moore and roy moore aint even the last roy moore and there are many more roy moores coming down the assemply line until the gop is nothing but roy moores.

tarnish the entire republican brand. it should be a damn slur to call someone a republican.

if repubs can sell dems as the party of san fran liberal pelosi then dems should be able to package up and sell repubs as the party of roy moore.

The story you choose to tell about what an honorable, moral guy Roy Moore is.. that time I went to a brothel with him, You said "they're pretty but young", Roy looked around and said "nah, let's go" and but your other buddy wanted to stay and was nice enough to loan you his jeep so he could stay and fuck teenage prostitutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD_5iYw4nak

i know other countries are looking at us like wtf.

Like he was just blown away by how much character it showed for him not to pay to fuck little girls that one time.

reversed a court order to preserve all digital ballot images.

https://www.alternet.org/activism/alabama-supreme-court-issues-monday-night-order-blocking-best-practices-verify-vote

good breakdown in this twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/940512622910361600

niggas aint even tryna hide stolen elections now.

they already engage in massive voter disenfranchisement like requiring id to vote...then shutting down the dmv in black counties to make it harder to get id.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/alabama-drivers-licenses-voter-id

on some other bullshit...instead of turning over election result info...republicans in georgia immediately wiped their election data server clean when a lawsuit was filed challenging their election security/integrity. then they also wiped the 2 backup servers clean too.

https://apnews.com/877ee1015f1c43f1965f63538b035d3f

Moore by 4. Republicans quickly forget any of this happened

This is bama, in case you forgot

Hell ... 6.

and a big turnout

I think Jones has a real chance, if a lot of regular GOP voters get queasy in the ballot booth and decide to write in Strange or Sessions or Reagan or someone.

On the other hand, a lot of people who *said* they were queasy about Moore might decide, when nobody's looking over their shoulder, that pedophilia isn't really so bad compared to Obamacare.

It's a really hard race to model.

I'd guess Moore has the edge, though.

to his polling station

moore by 8

Political consultants, take note.

Moore by 5

Bastards!

Making it seem like turnout was high (good for Jones) and black turnout is very high (very good for Jones)

at least media cant use black folks as a scapegoat this election. we put up higher turnout numbers than both obama elections.

37% of the vote in

I say it's looking good

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according to both nyt and 538. made them revise their estimates towards jones winning significantly.

still going 60+% for moore tho.

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/940773077344047104
https://twitter.com/gbrockell/status/940770950676668416
https://twitter.com/gbrockell/status/940773545453514753
https://twitter.com/lyman_brian/status/940776157208772608

It's the 2 minute warning and Jones is running out of time to catch up.

I know the cities are still out, but they're not coming up like they should I don't think

thats factoring current vote totals/projections and exit polls.

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/940777541194960901

and it's not just one lagging behind the other.

shouldn't this be the kind of thing that goes through a state clearinghouse/website/whatever

David Lynch predicted all this.

we gotta save ourselves from white people.

and save white people from white people.

https://apnews.com/e2f3c87b2f6b4c05b5e8f8cab38dd48c/Polls-close-across-Alabama-as-bitter-Senate

ahem, I mean, this is kinda cool

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among Congressional leaders in both parties, and the president.

And the president's attacks on Corker and Flake are seeming even dumber than ever.

if democrats can fight this tax bill off til then, its gametime.

Doesn't it just depend on how quickly the Alabama secretary of state certifies the election?

the special election in ma.

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/940802127148060672

you think mcconnell will do the same? lol.

https://twitter.com/jleibenluft/status/940956478311104513

lol @ these takes on black turnout.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/doug-jones-alabama-election-black-voters-african-american-voters/2017/11/24/id/827999/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/doug-joness-problem-african-american-voters-not-energized-by-alabama-senate-race/2017/11/24/c305a2ec-ce31-11e7-a1a3-0d1e45a6de3d_story.html

all they had to do was log on to black twitter and see black folks were fired up to vote for doug jones.

add this to their prediction that northam was on the verge of implosion in va. they clearly dont have their ears to the ground where it matters.

https://twitter.com/SeeDaneRun/status/940785194755411968

Given that those were protest voters who would probably lean Republican, it looks like he did

He came right out and said he wrote in another Republican.

the amount eligible voters kept out of polls easily outnumbers the write-ins.

moore campaign saying it would still be within the margin for an automatic recount tho.

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/940788439829635072

He'll blame McConnell, Shelby, Flake, and keep it moving.

https://libertywriters.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/843254616.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5gbkmXcAAxbAX.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5lxt9W0AAl5VI.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ5bWkGXcAMP5aj.jpg

60% of voters under 45 went for jones.

trump won a surprise victory by consolidating a slimming swath of white votes and repubs have adopted that as their path to victory in the future. but trends are trends. and repubs have a serious demographic issue.

https://twitter.com/alweaver22/status/940794703292878848

this chick really dropped her family name to appease trump smh.

They are going to move quickly to erase history and act as if they didn't put all their chips in to support an alleged child predator.

There needs to be constant reminders of their decision

>They are going to move quickly to erase history and act as if
>they didn't put all their chips in to support an alleged child
>predator.
>
>There needs to be constant reminders of their decision


Commercials and Ads shouting out Roy Moore's name all day...The GOP has to wear that.....

(outside of Jones, good shit my nigga).

Senator Luther Strange should have won the wonoff and we wouldn't be here. But they let that neo-tea party-ism/Trumpism fester because they afraid of losing 45's racist vote and their boy lost to basically 1968 George Wallace.

Will the dems play finally play smashmouth football now that they know pretty much everything is winnable? Hopefully, but unlikely. On the positive the Repubs have shown they will NOT turn their back on Trump and his voters so there's still a chance morality might not outright win the race but make it to the finish line while the badguys stumble and fumble

by dems, do you mean strictly the dnc?

dems fielded a competitive candidate in deep red alabama (sessions ran uncontested his last election).

black turnout was at barack obama presidential election levels in an off year special election.

and even tho hillary clinton lost...she put together a coalition of majority blacks, majority hispanics, majority millenials, more women, and more college educated and suburban whites. thats an even broader coalition than obama and exactly who is putting dems over the top in these elections. if these groups continue to turn out for dems, they could carry the country for an entire generation (especially once millenials hit gen x turnout levels).

seems like a lot dems could be proud of.



>Will the dems play finally play smashmouth football now that
>they know pretty much everything is winnable?

theyve announced theyre contesting virtually every state seat in heavily gerrymandered texas (along with senate and governor). if that aint a sign, i dont know what is lol.

>by dems, do you mean strictly the dnc?
>
>dems fielded a competitive candidate in deep red alabama
>(sessions ran uncontested his last election).
>
>black turnout was at barack obama presidential election levels
>in an off year special election.
>
>and even tho hillary clinton lost...she put together a
>coalition of majority blacks, majority hispanics, majority
>millenials, more women, and more college educated and suburban
>whites. thats an even broader coalition than obama and
>exactly who is putting dems over the top in these elections.
>if these groups continue to turn out for dems, they could
>carry the country for an entire generation (especially once
>millenials hit gen x turnout levels).
>
>seems like a lot dems could be proud of.


U beat me to it....

>(outside of Jones, good shit my nigga).
>
>Senator Luther Strange should have won the wonoff and we
>wouldn't be here. But they let that neo-tea
>party-ism/Trumpism fester because they afraid of losing 45's
>racist vote and their boy lost to basically 1968 George
>Wallace.
>
>Will the dems play finally play smashmouth football now that
>they know pretty much everything is winnable? Hopefully, but
>unlikely. On the positive the Repubs have shown they will NOT
>turn their back on Trump and his voters so there's still a
>chance morality might not outright win the race but make it to
>the finish line while the badguys stumble and fumble


Nah...

Strange definitely would have won this election. Bannon, McConnell, 45 and 'em really went out like the 3 Stooges in this election.

But they say that black voters mobilized and came out in numbers similar to when Obama was elected. They came out and took care of business at a crucial time in a special, off-year election. That's big.

with relative moderates lol.
they tried to tank northam, keisha bottoms, and jones but they all won.

despite the narrative that dems need to make a hard charge left in every race, the path to victory has been straight up the middle. dems are flipping moderate suburbs and romney counties which is exactly what they need.

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/940950381059825664

This reminds me of college era reggie when I went out with a girl who was saying some offensive stupid shit but I kept my mouth shut cause I wanted to get laid.

We arent gonna see a turn until the tax deal gets through or fails epically.

to able to push trump on a daca fix...and maybe even build up to amnesty negotiations down the road too.

i cant see any republican being that honorably sacrificial tho lol. but graham has been consistent on immigration reform.

i don't know if its immigration though. it's probably more self-serving

especially since what he's saying in this case is correct (i bet Trump wishes he didn't delete his Luther Strange support tweets now lol)

He knows Trump eats up that kind of praise up, and Lindsey Ghraham has no shame or pride, or dignity anyway, so fuck it

racist pedophile is unsettled but then look at who the president is...

>racist pedophile is unsettled but then look at who the
>president is...

I think it's pretty "settled" that a quite numerous amount of them would vote for Moore, Trump.

































haha, I knew you meant "unsettling" but I just had to....heh heh...

>haha, I knew you meant "unsettling" but I just had to....heh
>heh...

there should be more public discussion about how fucked up they are and how the country needs to be saved from them.

this guy called in the michael medved show all livid, talking about "I can't believe the people of Alabama. I'm just shocked that after 20 years the people of Alabama elected the party of the Klu Klux Klan! utterly disgusted!"

Even Medvev had to stop dude, and tell him conservatives really need to stop trying this dems/kkk argument because it's silly to think it's ever going to work.. especially against a candidate who's talking about how we're better off under slavery

But Medved is kind of the Shep Smith of that station. I'm sure all the other hosts would agree with that caller.

>"I can't believe the people of Alabama. I'm just shocked
>that after 20 years the people of Alabama elected the party of
>the Klu Klux Klan! utterly disgusted!"
>

The Party of the KKK?
LMAO, did they forget what party DAVID DUKE RAN UNDER?!!

Goddamn white people in America are broke af

but the groundswell is pretty obvious just by skimming through social media.

i dont like attacking the media because i think they are a convenient blanket scapegoat. but the last 2 years have made it pretty clear how out of touch national media is with 'real' people.

like the prevailing narrative before the northam election was that he was a boring candidate who failed to excite young voters. meanwhile actual college students were saying they were ready to throw bows for ralph northam come election day. and they turned out at a record clip.

the prevailing narrative before the alabama election was that black voters werent enthused for the dem candidate. but doug jones was packing churches and fish frys like crazy. and this was following a bham mayoral election where randall woodfin got thousands of previously untapped voters to turn out. and he was bringing that energy to the jones campaign. it was clear this was one of the few statewide races in alabama where black folks actually thought their voice would matter.

the dem coalition ground game right now is amazing. and theres an awakening among black voters...especially among black women...who are realizing the collective power they have to change the course of history through their vote.

this is all taking place right in broad daylight but national media seems to be ignoring it for some reason.

and two words: yard signs. when people bring up the amount of yard signs they see in their area to gauge candidate viability, they get ridiculed by pundits with stuff 'yeah well yard signs dont vote' (they said this about trump signs in blue collar dem districts in pa, oh, etc). but i noticed a trend of people saying stuff like 'there are tons of (dem candidate) yard signs in my neighborhood and ive never seen dem yard signs here before' in red districts. then dems end up flipping that district blue or at least overpeforming and making it real close. i literally search '(insert candidate) yard signs' on social media just to get a feel for whats going on at the ground level lol.

https://twitter.com/GovMikeHuckabee/status/940918705105534976

im dying.

https://twitter.com/politico/status/940839123157385216

stayed under the radar with it.

most of the financial and organizational support was focused on turning out black and young people.

https://twitter.com/WaPoSean/status/940948105205346304

by a ~50pt margin.

https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/941004081392480256

a number like that could spell doom for repubs in the rest of the country. maybe a lot of that was candidate-specific, but there is def a trend of repubs shedding support from white women.

https://shareblue.com/doug-jones-flips-county-named-after-robert-e-lee-for-first-time-since-civil-rights-era/

a dem hasnt gotten over 45% of the vote in lee county since the civil rights act.

trump won the county by 24 pts.

a year later...doug jones flipped it by 17 pts. crazy.

https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/941326899791450112

I ask because Trump some people rethinking their faith in democracy.