yet, drugs being introduced is a different ballgame. I was speaking along the line of there being men who seek out the already drunk girl. you've seen it before...

at parties
the club.
wherever

he knows she not in her "right mind" but, it doesn't prevent him from the kill...

so what I was getting at is that most men weren't like him. That's why I didn't follow up after MEAT's reply...he somewhat killed my theory.