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Topic subjectWell I just sent out my first app for an overseas job. So it begins!
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13193033, Well I just sent out my first app for an overseas job. So it begins!
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 03:32 PM
No stopping this train now
13193037, We need details.
Posted by Kira, Fri Sep-08-17 03:39 PM
Where'd you apply to (country not company)?

How'd you apply to it?

How much did you ask for in salary negotiations?

I hope you didn't apply to some place with a piss poor history of treating black people nicely. Pulling for you to get the bag and increase the diaspora's global reach.
13193039, Thanks! It 's in Norway
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 03:46 PM
I'm targeting Ireland, Denmark, and Norway/Sweden

Stateside Cali all day MAYBE Colorado, but that's an out the frying pan into the fryer move
13193040, you have lost all credibility.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 03:49 PM
you should probably stop posting.

all of your anti-white talk and you want to go live in the land of the fucking Vikings.

never post again.
13193042, I am confused too.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-08-17 03:51 PM
because I swear dude was one of them but then he does have a white dude in his Avi. I think I must have him confused with someone else.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13193051, no one should be confused by this
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-08-17 04:06 PM
I would be more confused if he chose somewhere with a strong black presence.

Reminds me of those pro black folks who date white cause of some weird excuse about decompressing when they get home.

13193052, I'm dyin
Posted by IkeMoses, Fri Sep-08-17 04:08 PM
>Reminds me of those pro black folks who date white cause of
>some weird excuse about decompressing when they get home.
13193060, I don't know enough about Dar Es Salaam to actually move there
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:12 PM
besides once you understand a thing why not exploit it? We were given western culture and it seems foolish to toss it out completely so why not experience better variants of it?

Y'all are strange though
13193067, you can't even go for Africa-lite (aka Cape Town/Jo'burg)?
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:17 PM
LOL @ you.

npa.
13193070, Tha fuck?? South Africa? WTF would I want any part of that?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:23 PM
that type of bullshit is what I want less of not more

A bunch of mutherfuckers with no claim to the land dictating my shit? Get real
13193072, like 1994 ain't happen.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:24 PM
npa.
13193073, yeah so it's all better now lol I can't with South Africa
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:31 PM
I hate that it's an African country that should be run buy Africans and yet it's occupied and run by foreigners that are too connected to it's negative experiences. Fuck Afrikaners all day
13193076, so fuck Africa...go to the Vikings.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:36 PM
LOL

npa.
13193080, If they're the highest bidders or only/best option
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:39 PM
there's a sports joke in there somewhere

Africa is a continent South Africa is not therefore

Fuck Afrikaners != Fuck Africa. I'd retire there in heartbeat, but I'm trying to make money using the skills and experience I have NOw
13193082, npa.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:42 PM
13193083, nobody gives a shit about your secret decoder ring acronyms bruh
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:45 PM
13193087, nobody gives a shit about you abandoning your ppl
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:50 PM
to go live w/the enemy.

we see you.
13193093, This country is a sinking ship IMO look at it's captain
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:53 PM
and tell me it's seaworthy. I can't abandon something I can naturally create more of. Do better.
13193107, Toodles.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 05:12 PM
Good luck.
13193065, You ain't never date no puppy like human, legs?
Posted by MEAT, Fri Sep-08-17 04:15 PM
Get you someone dumb or white or both that you can just smoke out to.
Shit is beautiful.
13193326, wtf does this mean?
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 09:36 AM
13193621, Someone just brainless that'll just be at your call and beckon.
Posted by MEAT, Mon Sep-11-17 04:24 PM
13194684, I wouldn't use the word date
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-15-17 07:48 AM
those types are great for a weekend or some casual but no way I could date that type. That's the kind of woman who has to bounce when my high comes down.
13193938, You never been with a sex slave Legs??
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 03:15 PM
13193047, hmm one country is built on your ancestors abuse the other is not
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:03 PM
Seems like an easy decision
13193057, *smh*
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:10 PM
13193063, yeah I smh too. What a shame this experiment has become
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:13 PM
13193066, no i smh @ you and your stereotypical pro-black shit.
Posted by SoWhat, Fri Sep-08-17 04:16 PM
you're like an In Living Color skit in real life.
13193069, Black man moves to Europe == less supportive of blacks someway
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:21 PM
black man calls black people niggers == champion of the cause

Okay (c) Jay Z
13193071, You could stand to read some Baldwin
Posted by MEAT, Fri Sep-08-17 04:23 PM
Good luck with the move and job hunt though in all seriousness.
13193074, what should I be looking for that relates to my statement?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:32 PM
13193089, I think you'll find some similarities in how he felt as a Black American in
Posted by MEAT, Fri Sep-08-17 04:51 PM
France as he observed the treatment of those from Algeria

There's a particular parallel to be found between that and the Scandinavian Refugee Crisis
13193095, ah okay, I did read a little of that
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:56 PM
I know racism exists in Europe, I'm just trying to get away from the American version of it, because why live with it? Also thaks for the support!
13193098, Because I'm talking about something deeper than racism.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Sep-08-17 05:00 PM
Which in this case is identity and human nature.
It doesn't seem that you've come to grips with either of those and I truly hope that if a move comes through that you do.
Because a winter in Norway or Sweden is pretty drab and can quickly lead to spiraling depression.
Particularly since their cultures are based on a communal feeling and without having a support system you're really putting yourself out there.
The risks of indulging in escapism for that location are numerous.

I mean what's your creative outlet for emotions outside of posting? Because you're going to need something of an outlet and/or a friendly ear
13193102, I've been. I can handle it. In all my experiences outside of the US
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 05:04 PM
the people have been friendlier and I've made friends easier like as one should be able to make friends. This has been true in Japan, in Europe, I'm sure it's true in Africa, etc

To me there is just something stifling about American society and I've felt it ever since I first left
13193103, 👍🏾
Posted by MEAT, Fri Sep-08-17 05:05 PM
13194476, RE: Because I'm talking about something deeper than racism.
Posted by double 0, Thu Sep-14-17 10:34 AM
Per my brothers experience Sweden, Norway are awesome places... even for Black people (maybe not refugees)

Quality of life is better... In general they are more left leaning (even with hard right factions floatin around)

and I mean

have you never met a bad ass nigerian/swedish girl? or danish/zambian?

sheeesssssh bad ones abound (even the model type blond ones)
13194526, I know this is the real reason
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-14-17 12:28 PM


>have you never met a bad ass nigerian/swedish girl? or
>danish/zambian?
>
>sheeesssssh bad ones abound (even the model type blond ones)

lmao
13194528, RE: Because I'm talking about something deeper than racism.
Posted by MEAT, Thu Sep-14-17 12:29 PM
>Per my brothers experience Sweden, Norway are awesome
>places... even for Black people (maybe not refugees)
>
>Quality of life is better... In general they are more left
>leaning (even with hard right factions floatin around)
>
>and I mean
>
>have you never met a bad ass nigerian/swedish girl? or
>danish/zambian?
>
>sheeesssssh bad ones abound (even the model type blond ones)

I'm sure all of the above is true.
My "worry" is that his words say that he's trying to get away from racism but it seems more that he's trying to get away from a racial classicism. And rather than recognize or acknowledge that he's moving to another place that participates in it just in another form.
In the end. It's not my life. And I wish the man luck.
13194699, nah just want out of this Dali painting come to life
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-15-17 08:28 AM
America is just not for me
13193084, Didn't Baldwin move to Europe?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-08-17 04:46 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13193086, Yes.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Sep-08-17 04:48 PM
13193044, Those places sound cold and white.
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-08-17 03:54 PM
Good luck. I looked into Sweden cause I heard the time off was beast.

I like warm weather tho and it sounds mad white.

13193050, the people are warm enough the weather yeah-- but it's beautiful
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:04 PM
if you like ski towns and all that
13193055, Suburban Black rebels yo.. lol
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-08-17 04:09 PM
13193064, takes one to know one does it not
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:14 PM
13193100, Yup. You remind me of my senior year in HS
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-08-17 05:03 PM
13193104, funny I could say the exact same thing
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 05:05 PM
13193111, To muhhhfukkin Che
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-08-17 05:20 PM
13193113, lol to you Negro!
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 05:32 PM
13193045, I don't know about Sweden...
Posted by Kira, Fri Sep-08-17 03:58 PM
>I'm targeting Ireland, Denmark, and Norway/Sweden
>
>Stateside Cali all day MAYBE Colorado, but that's an out the
>frying pan into the fryer move

That place seems like it has the "aw shucks" innocent racism. Denmark sounds nice but Ireland seems like trouble. Colorado is lit with legal marijuana and interracial unity. Consider Iceland as well. It seems like a fun place from what I've seen.

13193068, Sweden is like Norway but 'hates' Norway and vice versa lol
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:19 PM
>>I'm targeting Ireland, Denmark, and Norway/Sweden
>>
>>Stateside Cali all day MAYBE Colorado, but that's an out the
>>frying pan into the fryer move
>
>That place seems like it has the "aw shucks" innocent racism.

You're more right than wrong from my experience, but I'll take diet over classic all day


>Denmark sounds nice but Ireland seems like trouble.
Yeah Ireland has it's rough areas for sure but no country is really beefing with it like that so that's the allure and it's close enough to the states.

Colorado
>is lit with legal marijuana and interracial unity. Consider
>Iceland as well. It seems like a fun place from what I've
>seen.

Iceland is so small and I'm not sure there are many job opportunities up there but I plan on visiting next year should I be stateside

Colorado has interracial unity?
>
13193046, Thought you meant app, like you programmed one and sold it
Posted by flipnile, Fri Sep-08-17 04:00 PM
I was getting envious for a sec, lol. I *still* haven't even attempted to make an app using XCode or Android Studio yet.

Why do you want to work and live in those countries?
13193054, I'm my best outside of the US
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:08 PM
it's funny that you mention apps. When I was living in Japan I started working on a game (flash which was mad popular at the time) had the mechanics damn near finished and was just working on the graphics mostly.

Moved back to the states after visiting Hawaii (because I had no idea it was that beautiful so why not move there right?) lol anyway never finished it and now flash is being put down in a year or two.

I picked up phone gapp though so I got another one I want to hammer out (hopefully)
13193085, All I know is the further away from Africa you get in Europe
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-08-17 04:47 PM
The more they like the American brothers. At least my experience.




**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13193096, leverage?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 04:57 PM
13193121, RE: leverage?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-08-17 06:21 PM
Well the inverse is that the closer you get to Africa geographically, the more Europeans want to distance themselves from Africans.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13193277, hmmmm never heard it put like that before.
Posted by denny, Mon Sep-11-17 06:27 AM
To be honest...that seems to jive with my general perception of Canadian immigrants from southern Europe. Obviously making huge generalizations here....but yah. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, France. lol...I'm kinda shocked how accurate this characterization seems to be on first impression.

Have you heard this assertion made by others as well or is it strictly personal observation? I genuinely think there's something to this. Especially in terms of the social acceptance of outward expressions of racism. There's less taboo in saying anti-black shit in those southern European cultures.
13193305, Personal observation corroborated by friends.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Sep-11-17 09:03 AM


>To be honest...that seems to jive with my general perception
>of Canadian immigrants from southern Europe. Obviously making
>huge generalizations here....but yah. Spain, Greece, Italy,
>Portugal, France. lol...I'm kinda shocked how accurate this
>characterization seems to be on first impression.
>
>Have you heard this assertion made by others as well or is it
>strictly personal observation? I genuinely think there's
>something to this. Especially in terms of the social
>acceptance of outward expressions of racism. There's less
>taboo in saying anti-black shit in those southern European
>cultures.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13193105, in before the lock...this is about to get brutal
Posted by tomjohn29, Fri Sep-08-17 05:07 PM
13193117, https://tinyurl.com/y93dxy7e
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 05:56 PM
https://tinyurl.com/y93dxy7e
13193129, who...who is that lady?
Posted by double negative, Fri Sep-08-17 06:38 PM
13193143, Lol beats me
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 07:51 PM
13193109, LOL! dawg, you tryna move to part of europe where they 'innocently' do
Posted by _explain555, Fri Sep-08-17 05:16 PM
shit like THIS?

https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/04/23/blackface-genital-mutilation-and-cake-cutting-in-sweden-do-they-add-up-to-racism-sexism-or-art/

fuckalldat!


and aint there only 3-4 hours a day of sunlight in norway?

nigga you aint batman! what kinda black man survives wit no sunlight?!!

13193112, EVERYONES BLACK IN THE DARK!!!!
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-08-17 05:22 PM
13193114, You'll find worse done in American public places in any history book
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 05:38 PM
Or Newspaper. Which is worse?

this cake in the link

or

a bunch of police officers enjoying a serenade of "dead dead michael brown"?
www.tmz.com/videos/0_8mzngxur/


No joke I think there is at least one recorded incident of a pregnant black woman being treated in similar fashion to that cake in the US. So there's that.

>
>and aint there only 3-4 hours a day of sunlight in norway?

above the arctic circle which is pretty far from the job centers

>nigga you aint batman! what kinda black man survives wit no
>sunlight?!!

The kind that gets 24 hrs of sunlight
13193130, years ago I was shortlisted for a job in Norway...
Posted by double negative, Fri Sep-08-17 06:40 PM
and after researching it and realizing that I would be 2 hours from Oslo and in the sticks AND shit is mad expensive there? I backed off with a quickness.

IF you can get a job there and make a good money and be near...you know, civilization, then go right on ahead.

you got a family?
13193134, Yeah I've got family here but they're in good health so nows the time
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-08-17 07:02 PM
We're my closest members in declining health I'd likely not pursue overseas work
13193269, https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1464/65/1464652503699.jpg
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Mon Sep-11-17 02:58 AM
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1464/65/1464652503699.jpg
13193272, Hahaha
Posted by AFRICAN, Mon Sep-11-17 05:10 AM
.
13193280, https://youtu.be/jGQ-ISsDm8M
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 07:26 AM
https://youtu.be/jGQ-ISsDm8M
13193299, https://i.pinimg.com/236x/1b/0f/1f/1b0f1fb085d050960f36525ec155358c--black-king-white-queen.jpg
Posted by flipnile, Mon Sep-11-17 08:41 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/1b/0f/1f/1b0f1fb085d050960f36525ec155358c--black-king-white-queen.jpg
13193302, https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2XhMNKegiRE/VssFB9NWYUI/AAAAAAAA_tQ/02zkkMIuyOc/s1600/1.jpg
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 08:56 AM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2XhMNKegiRE/VssFB9NWYUI/AAAAAAAA_tQ/02zkkMIuyOc/s1600/1.jpg
13193304, http://vanguardmagazine.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Dali-Tambo-.jpg
Posted by flipnile, Mon Sep-11-17 09:03 AM
http://vanguardmagazine.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Dali-Tambo-.jpg
13193319, https://i.pinimg.com/236x/64/ef/87/64ef87bd54763e19e7c2a61200902ba4--white-women-white-girls.jpg
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 09:31 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/64/ef/87/64ef87bd54763e19e7c2a61200902ba4--white-women-white-girls.jpg
13193321, https://evettedionne.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/interracial-love.jpg
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 09:32 AM
https://evettedionne.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/interracial-love.jpg
13193323, https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/8c/df/748cdf40fa2fddf1377c17345f978965.jpg
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 09:33 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/8c/df/748cdf40fa2fddf1377c17345f978965.jpg
13193726, https://i.pinimg.com/736x/69/4e/eb/694eeb3266dcc4987118cea669ddbe5f--kitten-cat-cat-s.jpg
Posted by flipnile, Tue Sep-12-17 08:37 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/69/4e/eb/694eeb3266dcc4987118cea669ddbe5f--kitten-cat-cat-s.jpg
13193322, okay your HS prom photos don't need to be added to the mix Legs
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Sep-11-17 09:33 AM
13193324, my momma and sisters woulda disowned me if I tried that
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Sep-11-17 09:34 AM
13193307, I'ma let you finish, but y'all know there are black women in Europe
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Sep-11-17 09:12 AM
right?
13193699, we also know you ain't checking for them
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue Sep-12-17 12:40 AM
13193737, heh 'you' don't know a damn thing
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 09:01 AM
with all due respect
13194664, I know you talk that Hotep talk but trying to walk that Hrothgar walk
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Thu Sep-14-17 11:40 PM
13194685, Lmao... one thing folks have to be mindful of is a vacation
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-15-17 07:55 AM
is mad different from everyday living.

Onw thing that seems dope about Europe and some other places is traveling on weekends. Shit seems so odd that you can drive from NY to VA and actually go thru 3 different countries with totally different cultures.

13194700, not really.I just want to see black people outsmart their enemies
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-15-17 08:31 AM
whatever their skin color
13194702, best way to outsmart the enemy is to joint the enemy right?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-15-17 08:32 AM
13195433, If you think Europeans who are white = White people you are mistaken
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-19-17 08:39 AM
of course there are countries like Britain, France, Italy, etc where those types of identity politics exist, but it's no monolith.

13193308, I laughed
Posted by 13Rose, Mon Sep-11-17 09:13 AM
HARD
13193312, #64 though? Come on
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Sep-11-17 09:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_9zH9Q44o
13193274, Awesome
Posted by denny, Mon Sep-11-17 05:37 AM
Doing something is usually better than doing nothing and I admire initiative like this. I'm pretty 'safe and steady' on macro life decisions and I sometimes regret that I didn't take more chances like this. Say you go over there for a couple years and then come back....is it possible to regret that decision on your deathbed? 'I shouldn't have spent that time in Norway....those 78 years in America should have been 80.....' Takes a nutsack to make that dive though.

As an aside....I don't perceive you as being anywhere close to 'anti-white' on OKP. I've always thought your talking points carry an underlying assumption that white people as individuals are indoctrinated into a racist culture and that any evils aren't intrinsic to one being white. You also stick much more consistently to the idea of race being a social construct than most...it's typical for people to jump in and out of this view when it's convenient for anti-white agendas. When I disagree with something you've posted.....you're not cheap, you're intellectually honest and you're not opportunistic.

I wish you all the luck in the world bro. Anticipating your observations too.
13193311, Thanks man It's good to hear that some understand my POV
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Sep-11-17 09:22 AM
These overseas apps are a bit of a long shot in the end, but should they pan out there would be no regrets. I think not pursuing the opportunity would lead me to feel regret way later in life.

Respect to you as well.
13193346, Especially before the lil Attilahs running around eh?
Posted by denny, Mon Sep-11-17 09:58 AM
Seize the day! lol Before thoust punished eternally by the hellfires of Barbie and Transformers.
13193350, I love transformers they just need a Barbie hot rod that transforms
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Sep-11-17 10:03 AM
into Arcee and I'm all the way on board

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/3/37/ArceeG1-2010storypage.jpg/300px-ArceeG1-2010storypage.jpg
13193620, RE: Well I just sent out my first app for an overseas job. So it begins!
Posted by MEAT, Mon Sep-11-17 04:22 PM
Brutal exit poll for Norway's left. Labour is no longer the largest party for the 1st time in generations & the far-left fails the threshold

https://twitter.com/politicswolf/status/907319678824878080
13193706, Ouch. Well, at least they don't have our history
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Sep-12-17 06:28 AM
13193708, lmao
Posted by Pete Burns, Tue Sep-12-17 06:58 AM
13193727, seems like that's what this is really about
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Sep-12-17 08:39 AM
dude ain't choose Italy, Spain or France..

Ireland and Sweden? He wants em pale, pale I tell ya
13193732, I'm targeting Ireland, Denmark, and Norway/Sweden
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 08:51 AM
Sent one out to Hungary yesterday. Shooting one out to Berlin today

read

Also Spain is not great for Jobs and like dude said closer to Africa worse it gets. Don't know how true that is but I've heard stories. An American black dude got beat to death in Greece, and Italy? SHHHEEEIT you know that's where Othello take place right? It was profoundly racist even in Shakespear's day.
13193749, Yeah. I heard Italy was pretty racist
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Sep-12-17 09:32 AM
Then again, seems like that shit is everywhere these days. Does it really matter what a countries past is if the present is leaning far right and screaming about nationalism and closing boarders?

I mean, if someone calls me a nigger or tries to hit me with a brick I don't really give a shit what the countries history is at that moment.

Not saying Norway is like that (I have no idea) but I do know these European countries are upset with all the immigrants flooding in.
13193753, It just seems like dude is tired of being surrounded by "America"
Posted by MEAT, Tue Sep-12-17 10:03 AM
And what's gonna be real fucked up is when he moves and is touched by "America" no matter where he goes. Whether it's destabilizing a country leading to an influx of immigrants, not addressing rapid climate change, a banking crisis that has global ramifications, nukes, not addressing the shakiness of NATO and the UN at the moment, alienating an ally or trading partner.

"America" is with you no matter where you go. But if you don't have to be here, might as well get some clean drinking water and healthy food while you can.
13193939, it doesn't really work like that in my experience
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 03:17 PM
13193940, Did you live any other place than Japan?
Posted by MEAT, Tue Sep-12-17 03:19 PM
13193967, Well I was in Norway for about 2 months
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 04:12 PM
Hawaii for three (if that counts)

Been to S Korea and Sweden, but I've had the bug ever since I first left the US in 98 I think.

to me seems to make more sense to be an American foreigner in a foreign land rather than a foreigner in what's supposed to be your own. Guess what I'm saying is -- it's the same experience with far less compound vitriol
13193935, Yeah 'seems like' but that's not the reality
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 03:14 PM
Not saying it's perfect or anything but anti black sentiments and agendas are simply not a fundamental part of a good deal of European countries if at all
13194409, Man, this could be take all out of context and be the root of more jokes:
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-14-17 09:04 AM
>closer to Africa worse it gets.

lol
13194683, Shit sounds terrible. Lol
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-15-17 07:45 AM
13193734, None has even been able to give a solid counter to that argument
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 08:55 AM
leads me to believe it's a good one

I don't have my notes, but America has been against people like us as a nation and as colonies for what almost 400 years?

How long has any of those countries I listed been SPECIFICALLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY TARGETING* people such as ourselves?

I'll accept a gif as a reply, but make sure it's funny


*all caps cuz I know you hate reading full sentences
13193735, Why doesn't the rise of *the far right in a near monochromatic country
Posted by MEAT, Tue Sep-12-17 08:58 AM
Experiencing a large influx of vulnerable and easily demonizable population give you pause as well?
13193736, not the only place I'm applying to and it can't be worse than here
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 09:00 AM
just based on history alone, but I'll cross that bridge if and when I get to it.
13193739, When you say worse are you refering to conditions for your demographic
Posted by MEAT, Tue Sep-12-17 09:05 AM
Or more?
13193743, yup our demographic
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 09:13 AM
If a nation has invested nearly 4 centuries of effort into demonizing and persecuting a group of people how can it can be better than a nation that has no such history?
13193744, I understand. I just don't agree for my life and values.
Posted by MEAT, Tue Sep-12-17 09:15 AM
But I understand.
13193746, Totally cool. No approach or outlook is without merit IMO
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 09:19 AM
when it comes to our demographic and how we find solutions to a common problem
13193747, good luck
Posted by infin8, Tue Sep-12-17 09:31 AM
send me a Volvo?
13193759, China makes volvo's now is what i heard
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 10:11 AM
So I'm skeptical on the quality. Remember when they advertised them by dropping them off bridges/buildings ?

lol probably not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2OtJuNObkc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPp5mhl3C2c
13193754, They make awesomely svelte armchairs over there.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Sep-12-17 10:03 AM
13193760, cool phones too
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-12-17 10:13 AM
13193761, the design is off the hook
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Sep-12-17 10:14 AM
I looked into Denmark but it's sooo white. I can't, plus the Dutch be trippin
13194640, They're not Dutch in Denmark tho? n/m
Posted by Firecracker, Thu Sep-14-17 05:52 PM
>I looked into Denmark but it's sooo white. I can't, plus the
>Dutch be trippin
13194644, Lmao, yeah.. I always get them and the Danes mixed up
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-14-17 07:28 PM
13194672, this sounds like Costanza
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Sep-15-17 12:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL4QfvIrUf4
13194270, Attilah makes his travel plans like this:
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Wed Sep-13-17 02:42 PM
http://ytcropper.com/cropped/V659b987f30d802


13194281, 😂😂😂😂
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Sep-13-17 02:55 PM
He knows damn well he is trying to wife up some euro booty. Name his kid Hvuey P Vewton
13194665, Atilla's Sense of Snow Bunnies
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Thu Sep-14-17 11:59 PM
>Name his kid Hvuey P Vewton

lol!

Hvëy Þ. Nëwtøn
13194701, Atillah Moor V has a better ring to it IMO
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-15-17 08:32 AM
13194410, lol
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-14-17 09:04 AM
13194426, suggest an African country 40
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-14-17 09:32 AM
one you've visited
13194669, Ethiopia
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Sep-15-17 12:16 AM
but if you dismiss Dar Es Salaam/Tanzania out of hand because you don't know enough about it then I don't know why Ethiopia would be any different for you.
13194698, I've actually talked to people about Ethiopia, Tanzania, and Dar
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Sep-15-17 08:25 AM
on multiple occasions the last two just yesterday with a woman who lived in or visited both for a minute.

I would have to visit first and apparently Dar has a serious malaria problem so I gotta pass on that.

Ethiopia still has routine brown outs

Tanzania sounds like it's worth looking farther into
13194387, good luck man!
Posted by kayru99, Thu Sep-14-17 07:54 AM
13194411, For Americans of Color, Is Norway a Racism-Free Utopia? (link)
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-14-17 09:09 AM
Actually seems like Atillah's on to something.

-- BUT --

Quotes like this from the article give me pause:

>"So many times, these people will talk about blacks or Africans, and
>they'll say, ‘Oh, not you, Anthony. You’re American," he says.

>Speaking up so others can hear his American accent has either spared
>him from poor treatment or granted him access.

>"I was eating lunch, and there were some white people who needed
>help," he recalls. "I was on the phone talking. They walked past a
>table of Eastern Europeans, other white people, to get to me!"
13194431, Now ask yourself how terrible does that sound
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-14-17 09:35 AM
you get the "not you so and so" here already and then some
13194436, you're one of the good ones Atillah
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-14-17 09:41 AM
smiles
13194450, The Japanese have a saying: a man is whatever room he is in,
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-14-17 09:53 AM
13194478, too bad you aren't japanese
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-14-17 10:37 AM
13194520, However far the stream flows, it never forgets its source
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-14-17 12:23 PM
;)
13194492, https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/68/d2/d068d2ca3ac124e5494909bad2f4d985.jpg
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-14-17 11:23 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/68/d2/d068d2ca3ac124e5494909bad2f4d985.jpg
13194523, Fortunately there are enough European countries not built on that
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-14-17 12:24 PM
sort of thing for hundreds of years.

*Hopefully my disgust/disdain comes across better with that rephrasing
13194656, congrats man
Posted by SsenepoD, Thu Sep-14-17 09:37 PM
wishing you luck
13194674, Quickest way to find out if something is the right or wrong move for you
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Sep-15-17 01:01 AM
is to do it, so I support it for that reason alone.

I have nothing to offer in the way of shoulds or
shouldn'ts, because this is your path, and you're
obviously drawn to this experience b/c it's an
important one for you whether ultimately positive
or negative.

I wish you clarity from the experience
however that manifests.

Peace.


13195330, Nazis marched through Sweden's second largest city yesterday
Posted by MEAT, Mon Sep-18-17 04:17 PM
https://t.co/VtcpkVcd4C?amp=1
13195431, how many people were killed?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-19-17 08:37 AM
13195432, lmao.. good luck bruh
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Sep-19-17 08:38 AM
real talk, I hope you find what you are looking for..



13195438, yeah me too
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Sep-19-17 08:41 AM
13211764, TENS of thousands of Nationalist Poles marched on their capital yesterday
Posted by MEAT, Sat Nov-11-17 07:14 PM
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/polish-nationalist-youth-march-draws-thousands-in-capital-1510429006
13212236, 10 of thousands of poles and how many white Americans are here?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Nov-13-17 02:18 PM
living that mentality? like millions right?
13212253, ehh, how many people live in that country?
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Nov-13-17 02:49 PM
and how many didn't show up that have the same mindset?

it's all relative.

13212254, none can beat my who's been at the longest and hardest argument tho
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Nov-13-17 02:53 PM