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13177045, HS/College Hoops fans...ESPN Films present Baltimore Boys 8/8
Posted by ambient1, Mon Jul-24-17 03:02 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/varsity-letters/

arguably the Best HS BBall squad ever

check it out


this chic I know's son is supposed to portray Muggsy in some scenes
Pops was friends with David Wingate's older bro growin up
Reggie Williams was a BEAST ...Reggie Lewis was on the bench



I say the National Champion '91-92 squad is the best I've ever seen...

I remember when Sheed finally got his W down here his senior year

We (Baltimore) KEPT Nationally ranked squads in the 90s... I miss those days...

but yeah

let's talk HS hoops....

what/who are some of the best ballers/squads you've ever seen/ played with/against
13177048, don't nobody care about Baltimore..
Posted by Trinity444, Mon Jul-24-17 03:10 PM
lol. I'm kidding :-)

there were a few stars that came out of buffalo...


13177052, :-(
Posted by ambient1, Mon Jul-24-17 03:12 PM
buffalo got black people?


13177053, lol. damn
Posted by Trinity444, Mon Jul-24-17 03:13 PM
13177054, it's cool...this post prolly get 8 replies...lol...i forgot where i was
Posted by ambient1, Mon Jul-24-17 03:16 PM
for a sec....

only like 2 folks prolly hooped ...geah and someone else
only like 4 prolly even remember players or schools lol
13177056, My HS was trash at basketball.
Posted by MEAT, Mon Jul-24-17 03:22 PM
My dad and his brother and his other brothers dad used to coach in Austin forever.
Dad told me Kris Klack was ambidextrous at the age of five. Dude grew up and was a Texas star before TJ Ford came around

I can't think of too many Texas hoppers in my days. Everything was football and track.
If I'm being truly funky with it, best hoopers I've seen compartive to completion have been women. My sister used to play against Nneka Ogwumike, that woman was tough even as a kid.
13177058, I remember his name....I think Stephen Jackson was from TX too
Posted by ambient1, Mon Jul-24-17 03:29 PM
before he came to Oak Hill Academy

the first LEGIT ambidextrous dude I recall is Kevin Braswell...former G'Town PG...he used to shoot w/either hand and swore he was AI


my whole got damn neighborhood could hoop cept me lol...but nah...we legit had SEVERAL D1 dudes in my lil neck of the woods alone...

but yeah...TX...ya'll just different as it relates to football lol...

SN--the writer of this documentary is probably the best QB in Baltimore history...
13182574, my HS went from trash togood to trash to half trash to aiight
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Aug-09-17 07:50 AM
grew up in the burbs and played in the WPIAL. While we were mostly known for Football in Pittsburgh most of those football players also played basketball.

Played against Dante Calibria who was coached by Sean Millers dad at Blackhawk

Gabe Jackson was another local legend.

Had this white dude on our team my sophomore year who's jumper was fucking ridiculous. He ended up going to Cornell. First time lifting weights with the basketball team he showed me his routine. Bruh, I woke up 2 days later stiff as a door.

We had a few players on my HS teams who could have been D1 but they either started hustling or didn't have the grades.

My cousin was about to be a star his senior year but the coach kicked him off the team when he got caught smoking weed at lunchtime. That coach was the father of Dan Cortez who ended up being a host on MTV.

This was the problem with being a Black kid in the burbs. These white coaches and fathers fucked up multiple opportunities to have good squads because they would rather see their son get playing time than play the Black kids who grew up together.

If my coach put the kids who grew up together on the court at the same time we would run fools off the court. They always fucked up the flow with politics and racism/favorites
13177098, Legendary squad
Posted by Beezo, Mon Jul-24-17 06:28 PM
4 pros on one team. Dunbar was a hoops factory back in those days. That 91-92 team was ridiculous too.
13177178, I didn't know/realize both Reggie Lewis and Tree came off the bench
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jul-25-17 08:48 AM
on that squad...they had to been serious

a dude I grew up with came off the bench on the 91-92 squad...started in 92 tho
13177207, This one and the Morningside documentary are gonna be nice...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jul-25-17 10:08 AM
Being close to some of the big hoopers who played here, I get to hear a bunch of stories that are hilarious. Dudes from that era up through the mid-90s help make basketball season one of my favorite times of the year. Same stories year after year with growing embellishments.

LOL
13177218, LOL @ Same stories year after year with growing embellishments
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jul-25-17 10:28 AM
lmao....I can imagine

especially from non-Dunbar cats

they get all the attention/props/credit over Southern, Lake, St Frances, etc.
13177440, Deflated hoop dreams is all some of em really got going right now...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jul-25-17 01:53 PM
besides being funny as hell. LMAO
13177248, If you mean seen firsthand....I get it.
Posted by isaaaa, Tue Jul-25-17 11:02 AM

>I say the National Champion '91-92 squad is the best I've ever
>seen...



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13177258, yup it is...as in witnessed with mine own eyes
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jul-25-17 11:08 AM
13177320, we played some guys from Oak Hill Academy once
Posted by jrocc, Tue Jul-25-17 12:08 PM
back in the 90's in VA. they literally showed up to a local court we were playing on in a minivan with matching shorts and tshirts. THEY RAN US OFF THE COURT!!! we might have scored 1 or 2 baskets. got back in their minivan after 2 games and bounced. we had no idea who they were. they weren't particularly tall. nothing about them stood out other than they could ball and were obviously very organized. i believe they were the JV squad (8th & 9th graders).
13177351, lol damn
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jul-25-17 12:33 PM
13177377, I just knew the moment I wasn't gonna be a hooper
Posted by MEAT, Tue Jul-25-17 12:56 PM
Went the same way as football. You can only be so good and try so hard before physical talent takes over. My dad put me on his 16u team when I was 13. I had the body of a 12 year old. Everyone else on the team was at least 6 feet. We had two dudes that were 6'10, one dude that could jump out of the gym that was 6'7, another dude that would go on to play multiple lettered sports at UT Austin, he was like 6'2. I had to be like 5'4 maybe.

I got dunked on one time. That was enough.
13182229, comes on tonite
Posted by ambient1, Tue Aug-08-17 12:25 PM
13182232, DVR set so I can watch either or both of them over and over...
Posted by Creole, Tue Aug-08-17 12:28 PM
13182351, yezzir!! the dude who produced this was a standout QB when i was
Posted by ambient1, Tue Aug-08-17 02:04 PM
in HS
like dude recruited to play for Florida w/Spurrier

http://wnst.net/baltimore-sports-history/pomp-and-circumstance-the-wnst-sweet-16-best-high-school-athletes-in-baltimore-history/7/

he was hands down the best rated QB in the area...ironically his top rb/receiver played on my pop warner squad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Stukes

but yeah...he was on the radio and they sposed to cover East Bmore post '68 riots thru the 80s....and the legendary Skip Wise

pretty dope by dude...

it is kinda weird because years ago, another dude who played for them started a Dunbar documentary...i dunno if he got any involvement with this one
13182968, Sablehaus!!!
Posted by Overqualified, Wed Aug-09-17 04:38 PM
I saw he was producing this and it all came back to me - was wondering if "Yo, is that the same guy?". He was at McDonough and I was at another private school. I was on our JV squad when he was doing his thing, so I never played against him. But he did play against some of my upperclassmen and that's all we were talking about the week of. Our team went on to win the MIAA C Conference that year, but I do remember him CARVING up our squad when we played them during the season. I read an article on him a while back in SI I think. I knew dude was good, but when it came to HS recruiting, he was LARGE.
13183470, i never played against them
Posted by ambient1, Fri Aug-11-17 08:33 AM
Stukes went on to UVA and the NFL...dude was running like a 4.5 when we were like 11-12 lol


but yeah Sablehaus was 'different'....like he was the only QB in the area who had the look, size, arm, etc of your prototypical D1 Top Prospect QB...California-ish

Patterson QB (Willie McGirt) was dumb nice too but more of RB

I remember playin Loyola my senior yr.....they had this LB/TE who was a top D1 prospect for Boston College....one of the few people who gave me WORK...I STILL remember this play he did where I missed blocking him and he crushed my homeboy something serious
13182483, I don't think its an argument. Dunbar has my vote. Baltimore Stand up!
Posted by Castro, Tue Aug-08-17 04:47 PM
13182522, Tuned in
Posted by Beezo, Tue Aug-08-17 07:13 PM
13182584, Man....they showed Peanut King lol...i was like wth lol
Posted by ambient1, Wed Aug-09-17 08:16 AM
i heard abt the hustlers used to try to "sponsor" them but did not know it was HIM
13182690, Was a dope documentary with one exception...
Posted by Creole, Wed Aug-09-17 11:08 AM
I don't get why the featured the whole team in the ending scenes when the documentary was really about four players and the head coach.

It would have been nice to see them introduce each of the players, tell us a lil bit about what their life was like after leaving Dunbar, and also about what their up to now.

Muggsy's tears were real. When I saw the MCM pouch in his hands, while he was at the draft, had me cracking up. You could tell that he may have been the most street of them all.

Reggie Williams always reminded me of an overgrown Webster. I hated Georgetown overall but liked Reggie and Wingate.

David Wingate was nice. And I'd forgotten about that he was on that Sonics team in the mid to late 90s. I just remember him holding on to his career by sitting on the Knicks' bench for a few years until Pat got sent to Seattle.

Reggie Lewis is someone I discovered late one night when ESPN first appeared and I fell in love with the late night NCAA basketball coverage. As a Lakers fan, I'm embarrassed to say that I enjoyed watching him play for the Celtics. I also remember watching the game when he collapsed. Still sad to hear the tale and about how they really attempted to assassinate his character.
13182695, i remember seeing wingate as a kid. but not williams.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Aug-09-17 11:15 AM
wingate, sam perkins, payton, uhhh detlef schremp

edit: forgot about shawn kemp lmfao how. and nate mcmillan.
13183546, Did you get a chance to watch Morningside 5...?
Posted by bentagain, Fri Aug-11-17 11:02 AM
The contrast of those 2 docs is jarring

and should address your critiques
13182715, it would have been great...example...Herman Tree Harried was on
Posted by ambient1, Wed Aug-09-17 11:43 AM
the bench for that squad but he did his thing in college AND came back to coaching up Lake...I think he is the AD now

they coulda also mentioned how the school was the shit thru the early 90s...Reebok even did a commercial in their gym and them niggas had their own starter jackets

they did bring up Skip Wise story which EVERY old head here heralds as that dude

I did not know Wingates brother got high....my father grew up with him... now I got some ?'s for dad lol...


but yeah
overall it was awesome to me
13182971, Damn. All of this shit is coming back to me...The Starter Jackets
Posted by Overqualified, Wed Aug-09-17 04:47 PM
Memory hazy but if I recall, someone on the team in the mid 90s got robbed for their jacket (maybe at the harbor movies?), and the person who took it ended up getting killed. They were the nephew of one of my mom's friends.
13183082, i vaguely remember that...but yeah around my way, dude name
Posted by ambient1, Thu Aug-10-17 09:46 AM
Yashi played on that squad and used to rock his starter around the way
(actually another dude who I grew up w/brother)

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-12-05/sports/1991339079_1_donta-bright-dunbar-michael-lloyd

There's at least 5 dudes from my neighborhood in that lil article
2 from St Frances
1 from Dunbar
1 from Overlea
1 from Lake

Southern was a monster back then too...my best friend stepfather used to be a janitor there and he would let us run in their gym sometimes

13183259, Damn. Donta Bright. He used to be all over the news.
Posted by Overqualified, Thu Aug-10-17 01:29 PM
You probably know this dude. He was from around my way and played at Dunbar. I remember going away to school and coming back and people telling me about what derailed his career. Looks like he got it relatively back on track, although this article is eight years old.

http://www.accessathletes.com/blog/blogdisplay.cfm?/Athlete-Chat-Daryl-MaJic-Dorsey-359
13183357, i actually don't remember yo (Daryl)...he a bit younger than me and i
Posted by ambient1, Thu Aug-10-17 03:12 PM
don't quite remember that name

I might a played against him in football if he played varsity as a freshman but I don't think he was on that squad...


funny...that is the one year I didn't quite follow local hoops that heavy...98-00ish lol... I DO remember Melvin Scott from Southern who went to UNC and the (younger) Jenifer boys ...Keith n Damien


Donta Bright was running w/ Camby up in Umass
13182965, gotta check this out
Posted by kingjerm78, Wed Aug-09-17 04:07 PM
13183458, Baltimore Boys was really good. Seemed complete. But Morningside5?!
Posted by CherNic, Fri Aug-11-17 06:30 AM
Lord my emotions couldn't handle that. I would have watched 2/3 more fleshed out parts to that story. It was like Hoop Dreams x 100.
13183477, i only watched half cause i think football came on but i gotta
Posted by ambient1, Fri Aug-11-17 09:03 AM
finish it

13183549, I NEED A REGGIE LEWIS DOC!!!
Posted by bentagain, Fri Aug-11-17 11:07 AM
STILL...so many unanswered questions

Why do I have to google reggie lewis toxicology report to find out there were no drugs in his system when he died...?

If his mother and son have the same ailment...why would Jackie MacMullan stand by her initial drug use story...?

etc...

Feels to me, like there are still ALOT of issues being swept under the rug IRT Reggie Lewis

I NEED A REGGIE LEWIS DOC!!!
13183555, There should be a Baltimore hoops doc in general. So many stories.
Posted by Overqualified, Fri Aug-11-17 11:23 AM
Fang Mitchell & Coppin
Bob Wade and getting run out of Maryland
Reggie Lewis
Juan Dixon, Melo, and private school recruiting

shit's crazy.
13183577, Cecil Kirk Rec alone could have a whole documentary
Posted by ambient1, Fri Aug-11-17 12:04 PM