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13175641, If you don't have nothing good to say ..... John McCain has brain cancer
Posted by MEAT, Wed Jul-19-17 07:32 PM
Just gonna keep my $.02 to myself.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/health/gupta-mccain-glioblastoma/index.html?adkey=bn


(CNN)Sen. John McCain, 80, has been diagnosed with a primary glioblastoma, a type of brain tumor, Mayo Clinic doctors directly involved in the senator's care told CNN exclusively. The doctors spoke directly to CNN Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

The senator underwent surgery to remove a blood clot on Friday at Mayo Clinic Hospital in Phoenix. Lab results from that surgery confirmed the presence of glioblastoma associated with the blood clot.

Glioblastoma is a particularly aggressive tumor that forms in the tissue of the brain and spinal cord, according to the American Brain Tumor Association.
A pathologist was in the operating room during the procedure, a minimally invasive craniotomy with an eyebrow incision, said his doctor, who added that the surgery lasted about three to four hours. Post-surgical brain scans show the tissue causing concern has been completely removed.

John McCain Fast Facts
McCain is recovering "amazingly well," according to a statement from his office.

The senator showed no neurological problems before or after the operation, said his doctors. Though not identified by name, at McCain's request, his doctors were given permission speak with Gupta, who is also a practicing neurosurgeon.

McCain is now recovering at his Arizona home. He and his family are considering treatment options, which will likely include radiation and chemotherapy, his doctors said.

Routine exam


Doctors discovered the clot during a routine physical exam last week. They said he is very diligent about coming in for scheduled exams and is seen every four months for skin checks due to his history of skin cancer.

He arrived at his early morning appointment, Friday before 8 a.m. and as per usual, looked good, according to a doctor who has been involved in his care for nearly a decade. McCain, described as not being a complainer, did report feeling fatigued, which he attributed to a rigorous travel schedule.

He also told his doctor he had, at times, felt foggy and not as sharp as he typically is. In addition, he reported having double vision. These symptoms and doctor intuition prompted a CT scan.

When the results came back, McCain, who had already left the clinic, was asked to return for an MRI. Before the operation, his neurological exam was normal, according to his doctor.

The operation began in the late afternoon and the senator was recovering in the ICU by evening. His doctors told Gupta they were amazed at how sharp McCain was when he awoke. He knew what year it was and started cracking jokes. He also made it clear that he wanted to leave the hospital and get back to work, his doctors said.

Showing no signs of cognitive delays, McCain was discharge Saturday and has been recovering at his home since then.

His doctors would not reveal details but said his post operative care is standard.

'Aggressive tumor'


His doctor said McCain was oriented, with good balance and no headaches or seizures.

The clot was over the senator's left eye, not far from the left temple where he was diagnosed with melanoma in 2000. Previously, McCain had three other malignant melanomas removed in 1993, 2000 and 2002. None of these melanomas were invasive. All were declared Stage 0.

However, McCain has been regularly screened by his doctors since 2000.

Gupta was one of a select group of reporters who reviewed McCain's medical records in 2008 when he was campaigning for president.

McCain's blood clot may be more significant than first thought
The surgical procedure McCain underwent is "a significant operation," said Gupta, explaining that a bone underneath the eyebrow had to be removed to do the procedure and then later put back.

"It's a very aggressive tumor," said Gupta. He explained that survival for malignant glioblastoma tends to be around 14 months with treatment, which could not begin until the incision heals, which would be in the next three or four weeks.

However, a 2009 study reported that almost 10% of patients with glioblastoma may live five years or longer, according to the American Brain Tumor Association.
"This is the same tumor that Ted Kennedy had," said Gupta.

McCain's diagnosis is the latest chapter in a storied life. Tortured as a Vietnam prisoner-of-war, the maverick politician fell short of the pinnacle of politics with two failed presidential runs. His absence from Washington in recent days has come at a politically inopportune time for a bill repealing and replacing Obamacare. This week, McCain broke ranks and called for discussions with Democrats and a full committee process to finally provide "Americans with access to quality and affordable health care."
13175658, I don't agree with a lot of his politics, but I do respect him
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Wed Jul-19-17 11:55 PM
Sad to see anyone suffer with cancer tho.
13175662, I don't respect him but do not wish cancer on him
Posted by handle, Thu Jul-20-17 12:48 AM
He's a crazy Republican who's against most sane policies.

But I wish he'd just be at home healthy.
13175672, The timing of it all
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-20-17 05:06 AM
13175695, yup and Ted Kennedy got it after endorsing Obama IIRC IDK
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Jul-20-17 07:45 AM
grasping at straws I'm sure, but can't trust any of those politicians or their environment
13175700, I 'm talking about the healthcare debate
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-20-17 07:59 AM
they need all the votes they can get and McCain falls ill..

13175800, I'm not disagreeing
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Jul-20-17 10:12 AM
13175674, One of the few republicans with the balls to speak out against Trump
Posted by makaveli, Thu Jul-20-17 05:53 AM
I don't agree with his policies but I respect him and wish him and his family the best.
13175708, yup
Posted by SooperEgo, Thu Jul-20-17 08:17 AM
13175711, Trump said heroes don't get captured in reference to McCain
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jul-20-17 08:26 AM
McCain in turn vocalized complaints but confirmed 19/21 of his appointees, including Gorsuch, supported the health care bill, and got his wife a job as an ambassador in this administration.

I can respect your choice to respect him but to lionize him due to his words when his behavior directly conflicts that is misleading.
13175741, not trying to dog him out since he is going thru it
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-20-17 08:52 AM
but you are correct.

That dude gave us Palin too
13175756, Folks showed a lot of class last night. 100 something views before a reply
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jul-20-17 09:20 AM
I think all politicians have some things that are egregious. I don't feel as if this is the place to expand on his. But I did want to interject in an incomplete narrative. It's ok to recognize you care about the well being of another human without making a myth out of them. And that's what I wanted to point out.
13175831, agreed
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-20-17 10:53 AM
13175761, Yeah, I hoped he would stand up to Trump way more than he did.
Posted by Marbles, Thu Jul-20-17 09:30 AM

Even though I disagree with him politically and I give him the side eye on certain issues, I still have some respect for the dude. I hate that he has to go thru this.
13175860, When has he meaningfully stood up to trump?
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jul-20-17 11:34 AM
13175877, Never. But they know that.
Posted by bignick, Thu Jul-20-17 11:54 AM
13175864, He's a studio gangster against Trump. Him and Lindsay Graham
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Jul-20-17 11:42 AM
They always come out in front of the cameras on some "I don't like what the president is up to....."

But when it comes time to do something, they just carry his water.
13175874, Come on. Don't bamma this shit up.
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jul-20-17 11:50 AM
13175879, Is John McCain browsing the OKP boards?
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Jul-20-17 11:58 AM
It's not like I wished death on the man.

There's no need to flip the entire narrative on the man overnight just because he is sick.
13175883, Yes
Posted by Marauder21, Thu Jul-20-17 12:06 PM
>There's no need to flip the entire narrative on the man
>overnight just because he is sick.

I'm not glad he has cancer and I hate what he and his family will go through. But we don't have to pretend he's something other than what he's proven himself to be either.
13175884, It was handled in post 12. This post was silent until after midnight.
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jul-20-17 12:06 PM
Nobody had anything good to say, so nobody said nothing. All this extra "fuck this dude" shit can be had elsewhere. There's gotta be over a dozen McCain posts you can up if you wanna shit on him.
13175889, no one is saying fuck that dude tho...
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-20-17 12:09 PM
they are saying the same thing you said...lol.



13175896, I'm looking at his posts 12 and 14, then his reply to me like
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Jul-20-17 12:14 PM
http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/uF9MjJo3QIaijySXC4iL_Confused%20Christian%20Bale.gif

Only thing different is I didn't put the "I respect the man, but...." tag on it

13175901, lmao
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-20-17 12:16 PM
13175903, Come on. There's a large gap in how I said what I said and what you did
Posted by MEAT, Thu Jul-20-17 12:17 PM
You straight up disagreed with the poster without giving their right to a counter opinion any creedance, when does that not lead to a back and forth?
13175676, of all the republicans to get Cancer
Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Jul-20-17 06:17 AM
it's McCain.

the fuck, man
13175679, I always think of that Jay Elec line whenever I see his name....
Posted by Seven, Thu Jul-20-17 06:20 AM
....wishing him all the best
13175685, not like this. not him.
Posted by HotThyng76, Thu Jul-20-17 07:00 AM
That's terrible. I hope he makes it through.
_______________________
13175701, I got respect for John McCain
Posted by flipnile, Thu Jul-20-17 08:01 AM
Don't agree with his politics so much, but he seems like a stand-up dude.
13175777, the bots on FB trending stories (don't ask me why I read that shit)
Posted by Somnus, Thu Jul-20-17 09:49 AM
are having a field day with this news

they gotta be bots, I refuse to believe theyre actually people

a deplorable lot indeed
13175865, Those are people bro
Posted by handle, Thu Jul-20-17 11:43 AM
Goobers.
13177467, Confirmed today that he's an awful human. Fuck him.
Posted by bignick, Tue Jul-25-17 02:10 PM
13177474, MAVERICK MAVERICK MAVERICK MAVERICK
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-25-17 02:16 PM
Only question now is if this will overshadow his unleashing of Srah Palin upon the rest of America for his defining achievement.

Though I guess there's always the Keating Five and that time he wanted a bunch of bikers to bang his wife.
13177485, He said in his address he's voting against the bill
Posted by B9, Tue Jul-25-17 02:28 PM
Just voted to allow the debate to continue, but won't be voting for the bill because it sucks. That was a pretty great bit of "wake the fuck up" that is long overdue.
13177493, dead that shit now then. he's so full of shit.
Posted by rob, Tue Jul-25-17 02:39 PM
talking about partisanship and grandstanding when he goes out of his way to play ball with them but never steps up to them.

he doesn't even have to worry about the next election too. he juste wants to be at the center of things.

13177495, McCain: *Gives heroic speech about norms and decency*
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-25-17 02:42 PM
Also McCain: Let a SCOTUS vacancy sit for a year so Donald Trump could have his hand-picked judge.
13177498, the maverick mythos is such a great combination
Posted by rob, Tue Jul-25-17 02:46 PM
of marketing and liberal magical thinking.

i wonder how kerry feels about all this.
13177503, There is nothing he could do that would make mainstream media
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-25-17 02:52 PM
think he was anything less than a Great Man of the Senate.

Any scrap of credibility he had with anyone to the left of Jeff Flake should've died with his 2008 campaign, but here we are.
13177558, And you fell for that?
Posted by bignick, Tue Jul-25-17 06:40 PM
13177570, ^ worthless piece of shit talks a HUGE game.
Posted by Brew, Tue Jul-25-17 07:44 PM
That he's literally never backed up, in his entire career. Backed up GWB 95% of the time, thus far backs up Trump 90% of the time.

Fuck that fucking clown piece of shit.
13177582, Ten minutes ago he voted for the bill as is.
Posted by MEAT, Tue Jul-25-17 08:37 PM
13177583, Huh ?
Posted by Brew, Tue Jul-25-17 08:40 PM
13177585, They just held a 60 threshold vote for BCRA as it was written
Posted by MEAT, Tue Jul-25-17 08:45 PM
John McCain voted for.
13177592, But but....he gave a speech
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Jul-25-17 09:00 PM
It was all mavricky
13177572, Exactly what I said up top. He'll grandstand but never walk the walk
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Jul-25-17 07:50 PM
He gave that speech today knowing good and well he had been doing and will continue to do whatever the party leader tells him to do.

He's been criticising the healthcare bill process in front of the cameras for months. But when asked what he's going to do about it, he has no answer.

I hate that he had to get sick like this. But in terms of governing, I think he's one of the worst types. The fake like you have some principles type
13177584, almost all 80 year old men have had some kind of cancer
Posted by rob, Tue Jul-25-17 08:44 PM
the fact that we're entertaining a pity party for a dude who ran for office in his late 70s and gets premium free health care while refusing to support decent standards of care, standards of living, and preventative care for everyone else is the fucking problem.

his children's generation are on track to have shorter lifespans than his. shame.
13177644, basically..lol
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jul-26-17 08:24 AM
13177472, lol....we still 'being nice' to the old hero?
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jul-25-17 02:14 PM
13177477, not brain cancer though.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jul-25-17 02:22 PM
he's not Trump.

i hope Trump is attacked by a pack of wild dogs while wearing Gaga's meat dress.

McCain should go a little easier.
13177481, This post was dead for like 100 clicks
Posted by MEAT, Tue Jul-25-17 02:26 PM
It was a beauty. Aint nobody have shit good to say about him, so nobody said shit.

But here I am, rooting for cancer.
13178345, Y'all changed my mind. F this dude
Posted by flipnile, Thu Jul-27-17 03:51 PM
He had a chance to be someone else, but took the road most traveled.
13177483, I guess he gave an eloquent speech after the vote
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-25-17 02:27 PM
so just forget about what he voted to do and focus on his rhetoric, everyone.

MAVERICK
13177486, The vote was to allow debate to continue; he doesn't support the bill
Posted by B9, Tue Jul-25-17 02:29 PM
Said he will be voting against the bill because it is horrible. If the vote to continue to debate failed, then the debacle of repeal only would have gone forward.
Also more or less said he won't vote for anything just because the President tells him to.
13177490, "As is," though
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-25-17 02:34 PM
Doesn't mean he won't vote for it. He could've voted against the motion to continue if he actually had a problem.

And when has he actually stood up to Trump in a meaningful way? he literally risked his life to vote the way Trump wanted him to TODAY.
13177500, They are killing it one way or the other
Posted by B9, Tue Jul-25-17 02:48 PM
Either by suffocating the marketplace or gutting it through this legislation, they are effectively destroying it on purpose one way or the other. I would rather them do this in public with recorded commentary and accountability than the chicken shit way they got to this point. The 40+ million new uninsured people need to know exactly who and how they were left behind, doing it this way versus the slow and faceless death defunding was causing is better.
13177491, RE: The vote was to allow debate to continue; he doesn't support the bill
Posted by MEAT, Tue Jul-25-17 02:34 PM
>Said he will be voting against the bill because it is
>horrible. If the vote to continue to debate failed, then the
>debacle of repeal only would have gone forward.
>Also more or less said he won't vote for anything just because
>the President tells him to.

His cabinet votes say otherwise.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/john-mccain/ 90.7 trump score

13177520, Can't trust it
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jul-25-17 03:30 PM
13177496, the nerve of this dude
Posted by rob, Tue Jul-25-17 02:45 PM
referencing bombastic loudmouths and partisanship after flying back just because he'd get to give a speech after casting a partisan vote
13177497, his word is no good.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jul-25-17 02:46 PM
13177564, Oh more brow furrowing and hand wringing. Fuck him
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Jul-25-17 07:03 PM
13177573, Today: I can't vote for this bill! On vote day....Clerk: McCain.....AYE!
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Jul-25-17 07:57 PM
.
13177565, Yeah, he can go fuck himself
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-25-17 07:13 PM
Made sure to complain in this eloquent speech about the Democrats "ramming" through the ACA in the first place. You know, the legislation they debated for 10 months and let the Repugs add a ton of dipshit ammendments to. As opposed to this abortion, which the Republicans are forcing through without letting anyone know what they're actually voting for or letting the CBO score it. What a hypocritical tool.
13177579, I don't know how he could damage his legacy further
Posted by Marauder21, Tue Jul-25-17 08:16 PM
Than I remember the "good" John McCain was a media creation.
13177566, Glad he didn't die - but fuck his life
Posted by handle, Tue Jul-25-17 07:21 PM
Seriously - fuck him.
13177569, ^ fuck that dude. Fuck that worthless POS for fucking ever.
Posted by Brew, Tue Jul-25-17 07:43 PM
13177589, Yup. Him and every Dem who lined up to jerk him off
Posted by Stadiq, Tue Jul-25-17 08:53 PM

because they are scared Fox news will talk bad about them tonight.

The only group standing between these evil a$$ republicans and what they want to do literally gave a standing ovation to this evil opportunistic hypocrite...then lined up to hug him.

They are our defense?

WE ARE F*CKED


13177597, TO BE FAIR TO THE DEMS
Posted by handle, Tue Jul-25-17 09:49 PM
They're friends with him and were cheering that his recovery is happening - not that he was voting to throw 10s of millions off of insurance.

I see your point - and McCain is an awful awful person you can see why they did it.

Beyond politics.
13177955, You don't need to give him a standing O and hug him, though
Posted by Marauder21, Wed Jul-26-17 02:26 PM
13177981, I think you do
Posted by handle, Wed Jul-26-17 03:13 PM
They'd have done it if he came back and there was no vote.

Scalise will receive the same ovation - even he comes back to be the tie breaking vote to end Medicare.
13177588, *has brain cancer but votes against people having health insurance*
Posted by Kira, Tue Jul-25-17 08:53 PM
Yep, sounds about right for the 2017 version of conservatives.

*vehemently against insert topic*
*insert topic happens to them*
*switches sides after dealing with insert topic*

Big shouts to all the conservatives getting fucked over by Trump after voting for him. Your rage tears are greatly appreciated.

I'm trying not to slander McCain over this but it's hard. It's someone somewhere that's going to die over not receiving medical care for brain cancer due to Republicans like McCain voting to repeal Obamacare.
13177594, RE: If you don't have nothing good to say ..... John McCain has brain cancer
Posted by MEAT, Tue Jul-25-17 09:19 PM
Senator Hirono cast her vote after a second surgery battling Stage 4 cancer.
13178020, not even a full week b4 obama played himself (again)
Posted by Riot, Wed Jul-26-17 04:39 PM
wit the game goofy well wishes to mccain on his recovery


while dude jumped up out his publicly-funded govt hospital bed, to rush to congress and take away the rest of the publics govt healthcare that obama set up


i can only blame his (barry's) whyt momma for this type of naivete
13178022, Post about it.
Posted by MEAT, Wed Jul-26-17 04:46 PM
13178024, He voted nay today, no?
Posted by KiloMcG, Wed Jul-26-17 04:59 PM
13178025, It's complicated
Posted by MEAT, Wed Jul-26-17 05:22 PM
Still, taking a shit on Obama when all of THIS is going on AND that man doesn't have voting power is silly as fuck.
13178026, weird thing to complain about
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Jul-26-17 05:23 PM
13178144, gotta get at O one way or another
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-27-17 09:59 AM
13178327, WHY IS THIS DECENT MAN BEING DECENT??
Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Jul-27-17 03:35 PM
13178151, been off the dude since he tried to rationalize "i hate the gooks"
Posted by Flash80, Thu Jul-27-17 10:15 AM
in the '00 repub primary versus dubya.

actually, i was never on the dude.

muhfucka voted against mlk day four times. oh but he "evolved" though... LOL
13178295, Fuck, I forgot about that.
Posted by bignick, Thu Jul-27-17 02:28 PM
13178335, eh fuck him
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jul-27-17 03:42 PM