I just skimmed and I believe all of the women are of legal consenting age, but this is sketchy as fuck. If I were a parent of one of these girls, I'd want a bullet in his head

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult

I mean, why wouldn't he do this? He knows he'll continue to get away with it.

He knows he'll continue to
>get away with it.

Six SoCal Motels You Can Buy Right Now That Would Be Ideal For Starting A Cult -
http://laist.com/2017/07/12/10_socal_motels_buy_right_now.php#photo-1

Not to downplay the terrible and evilness of this dude but that was the main thing I kept thinking reading this story.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

These parents had no problem with letting R Kelly hang out with their teenage girls. After everything that's publicly out there.

Which is how he keeps getting away with it.

i mean the part where the mom was talking about his songwriting ability just had me wondering how something so subjective could override the danger

I am going to go out on a limb though and say these womens home lifes couldn't be THAT great if they could swayed away from their families like that.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

http://www.alexstjohn.com/WP/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/silicon-valley-pied-piper-mousepad-950_1000.jpg

I don't understand. How many artist has R.Kelly broke since Aliyah?

you really running with the Riley Freeman "I see piss coming, I move. she saw piss coming, she stayed" defense right now?

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The joke was, how can he start a sex planet with just himself?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgEAAGiifDM

the only response is no response or "LOL".

it's okay.
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

There are still women that want to ride his magic stick, so why not.

who in 2017 is still fucking w/Kellz? who in 2017 thinks Kellz can create a hit for himself or anyone else?

the worst part about this story is how stupid everyone involved is. just dumb as rocks. to think associating w/Kellz would bring anything other than a criminal complaint and at least one sexually-transmitted infection.

dumb asses.
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regardless of what he does here on out he done already changed the game of R&B. and he done worked for nearly everyone in the biz.

BUT HE CHANGED R&B ! No matter how many women he rapes he's still the man ©

And the whole time he was a vicious predator who victimized I dunno how many young Black girls sending at least one to suicide and who knows how many to the abortion clinic and the sanitarium and the crack house and back to mama's house and the jail house. He made some great records and he was likely a serial rapist the whole time. Quite a legend.
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...I really don't know what to think about this, Kelz getting kind of old for this type of stuff, he could be just paying these women because they interviewed one of the girls/ladies mother on the news today and she said that she received a comment from her daughter saying that, she is very happy where she is and has no intentions to leave...Please tell me more, I really don't know what to think about this stupid story...



♥ :* I LUV U 2!!! :* ♥

the cop and blow pimp mind
preying on girls trying to get on
getting older and girls stay the same age
the bottom bitch den mom grooming the girls
the no contact with the outside world
the physical and mind control (only use the phone I gave you, don't look at other men, only wear these clothes)
The Georgia (Dr. York) and Chicago (Iceberg) spots

I've liked some of his songs (who hasn't)
but he's not the first or last industry predator
this shit's been going on since before we were born
ask Jerry Lewis

He's probably guarding the compound. No time to post, unless you want lashes from Da Kang.

Or he's the Grand Priest and a little busy.

seems like a recipe to get extorted.


Prince died with no claims going at his money to keep his siblings from getting control.


Any disgruntled former sex slaves would have probably come for Prince's money.


I don't want to say MJ got extorted, but his victims came for him and reportedly are planning to come again at MJ's estate.

It seems like everyone was consenting age.

Its terrible but I can only care so much about what grown people do.




>seems like a recipe to get extorted.
>
>
>Prince died with no claims going at his money to keep his
>siblings from getting control.
>
>
>Any disgruntled former sex slaves would have probably come for
>Prince's money.
>
>
>I don't want to say MJ got extorted, but his victims came for
>him and reportedly are planning to come again at MJ's estate.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

moves to be made

Only accusations.

you tried it.
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>moves to be made
>
>Only accusations.
>
>
>


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

but let something happen when one or more of them gets out of favor with R Kelly, then.......


the story changes and accusations fly.


What I'm referring to is power dynamics.

There is a reason some rich people warn their kids not to mess with non-rich people in romantic situations.


Because, those rich parents feel the "power dynamics" of the imbalance between a rich person and a non-rich person will cause the non-rich person to "scheme" and "connive" if the rich person starts to back away.

Since R Kelly is rich, these "willing" participants can at any time say "something happened that wasn't right/cool/consensual" if R Kelly starts to not be ok anymore with one or several of them.

Then the extortion comes.


Power dynamics on an elementary level

http://www.jukebo.com/prince/music-clip,pink-cashmere,suvlr.html

no, he didn't.
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however Kellz gets a double standard?

he didn't.

the only thing R Kelly ever did that was anything like Prince was when he put on pants. otherwise that fool never did shit like Prince. he wish he did. you wish he did. that's why you keep bringing up the legend to defend that monstrous minstrel act. you look silly.
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Nona Gaye
Carmen Electria

the chick he wrote Pink Cashmire for

Purple rose colored glasses got you blinded.

Prince liked them young.

that one chick who sued him said he had a house of whips and chains. Prince was wild back then. he might not been as Blatant as ARRUh Kelly,however lets not act that Prince was MR Clean neither.

Purple Kool aid drinkers trip me out with that.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/7/17/15981826/r-kelly-cult-sexual-abuse

Since he began following the Kelly story, DeRogatis has been vocal about how troubling he finds Kelly’s continued public success. “I’ve never expected other journalists and critics to feel as strongly about this story as I do,” he wrote in 2014. “But neither did I expect the cultural amnesia that for years allowed many to ignore any reference to Kelly’s crimes, despite the mountains of evidence in the public record, or to dismiss them with a fleeting nod to past ‘controversy’ or ‘rumors.’”

“The saddest fact I’ve learned is: Nobody matters less to our society than young black women,” he told the Village Voice, adding, “Kelly never misbehaved with a single white girl who sued him or that we know of.” DeRogatis cites Mark Anthony Neal, the African-American scholar, in making this point: “One white girl in Winnetka and the story would have been different. No, it was young black girls and all of them settled. They settled because they felt they could get no justice whatsoever. They didn’t have a chance.”

In his new piece for BuzzFeed, DeRogatis does not identify the race of any of the women whom Kelly is currently allegedly holding, but Kelly’s past alleged victims have all been young and black. If Kelly is following his previously established patterns, these women most likely are as well.

Which suggests that any success in freeing these women will depend, in part, on whether our society has made up its mind to care about young black women. It will depend on whether we are willing to fight for them.
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and something I've been thinking about a lot lately.

That line and that article was what made me REALLY really made me open my eyes to all this. I used to think, facetiously "...yeah, he likes to piss on jailbait girls, AND his music fuckin sucks too!" But nah, these girls are young, vulnerable, exploited, etc and he's a fucking predator. The victim blaming and focus on the girls' parents' mistakes (e.g. "Those girls' parents are stupid enough to let their daughters fly off with R Kelly???") saddens me too.

No I'm serious

>No I'm serious

And that's sick too.

You must not give a shit about the young black women and girls on whom he preys. I can't tell.


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I really wanna pee on you

I might be cool with that if we're really high on the right stuff.
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i've been many places in my life and time.
i've sung a lot of songs.
i've made some bad rhymes.
i've acted out my life in stages.
with 10,000 ppl watching...


i've done some things. Kellz had nothing do w/them.

but back to the lecture at hand...w/pix and the right substances i might be down.
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Pimping culture is embraced by the hip hop community but everyone is up in arms about r Kelly? Seems hypocritical to me.

Who in here celebrates pimping but decries Kellz? Let them defend or rehabilitate themselves.
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13081965&mesg_id=13081965&listing_type=search

Suga Free was an actual pimp
Snoop dabbled
but no one A-list famous has been caught trafficking women

We love Suga Free, Too Short and Snoop but everyone cries foul with R Kelly. It's the same thing.

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

So you're fine with pimping as long as nobody gets pissed on?

are not the same thing.

Kind of like how you can listen to rappers talk about having all of the guns but not actually be a fan of shooting people in real life.

.

We need to stop idolizeing these man-children, and teach our kids the same.

im gon need him to come school yall on kells one mo time

http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/17/r-kelly-joycelyn-savage-denies-sex-cult-hostage-allegations/

21 about to be 22. she gets fucked and doesnt have to worry about a roof over her head or where her next meal is coming from

it's a setup that works for her, until she looks too grown and he disposes of her

he's legit preying on young women that come from bad living situations and offering them a better life, when he can have 8 out of 10 single women in their 30s. he has to like the feeling of being able to mold/break someone, which is sick

Like at the end dude was like "OK so you have roommates and can come and go as you please ?" and her response was "I'd rather not speak on that"

That's, you know, the wrong answer, if in fact you are not being held against your will.

Since Maxx is not here someone has to put this up

https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansari/r-kelly-denial-as-parents-come-forward?utm_term=.lcxdQABJJ#.ouRoB3e55

Legendary R&B singer R. Kelly on Monday denied allegations from parents that he is holding several women against their will in a "cult" — a response to a BuzzFeed News investigation published earlier in the day.

"Mr. Robert Kelly is both alarmed and disturbed by the recent revelations attributed to him," Kelly's lawyer, Linda Mensch, told BuzzFeed News. "Mr. Kelly unequivocally denies such accusations and will work diligently and forcibly to pursue his accusers and clear his name." TMZ first reported the denial.

But I believe he's done a lot of foul shit to bring this on himself.

and this is a racist conspiracy which Hunt because he stays in Trump Towers. ain't No Negro holding nobody against there will.

everything is legal and nobody is brainwashed.

alot of Haters against the Baddest Musical artist over the past 25 years and this is much ado about nothing. all it will do is increase his record sales and he will be alright.

this is a personal attack against him and i wonder who? the Man done wrote for just about everybody in the music business.

Kellz is a Pimp and He should run for a Office job.

this here is just comedy gone wrong for the nezt 100 installments of trapped in the closet. these devils acting like Kellz got a mask on
and opening his door and saying come get this candy and its good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sc6NSgTySU

it ain't even close, without Chappelle's chip Mock tooth Mocking of Kellz and the Charlie Murphy Rick James and Prince skits, then Chappelle's Ox tail jive turkey acting self would be washing

Chitlin guts with Arie Spears.

that turkey is washing chitlin guts in a drive thru

:(

if the cat has a Harem and they are all legal age who cares?

thats cool for His Pimping game. only salty haters are Hating on this.

its a funny at the barbershop and no head is turning to make this a deep Jerry Springer Moment at all.

but that Ox tail jive turkey combo maxxx typed there it hitting my eyesballs pretty fiercely right now.

I have no clue what to think of that phrase. What a brilliant combination of consonants and vowels he strung together there.

>but that Ox tail jive turkey combo maxxx typed there it
>hitting my eyesballs pretty fiercely right now.
>
>I have no clue what to think of that phrase. What a brilliant
>combination of consonants and vowels he strung together
>there.

i put my mask on and she loved it with the lights on
and off.

Ya man came with the 12 gauge letting off.

she used the Balloon for your early birthday partys.

and she refuses to claim your jive sucker behind.say this to my face turkey and watch your little feelings fall.

so you agree that it is in fact a cult. word.

whatever you call it whatever. its all legal and its Pimping.

>Kellz is a Pimp and He should run for a Office job.

so why Not Kellz for President? thursday could be steppin days.

>and this is a racist conspiracy which Hunt because he stays
>in Trump Towers. ain't No Negro holding nobody against there
>will.

Which hunt is it?

he done wrote a song for nearly everybody and you know he carries weight in the industry because who else from his era are they gonna go after?

its a Witch hunt.

lol...

trying to snap is popping in here

you're special

.

they should have told you that i do snaps for fun. i could ghostwrite for Nick Cannon believe that.

>i could
>ghostwrite for Nick Cannon believe that.

Nick got a Career. brother does a bunch of things and has his own headphones as well.

nick cannon hasn't made me laugh once

i seen his two stand ups

but I very very very vaguely remember mixxx posting songs and perhaps a whole album of songs he did way way way back when on this message board.


Does anyone have those saved somewhere?

Wish I had them. I've asked maxxx a few times if he'd share again, but he didn't answer. I remember one was about kool-aid.

I vaguely remember him singing about pancakes. I have to think someone that isn't mistermaxxx has them saved on a hard drive somewhere. Then again, hard drives crash now and again and these songs are probably 10-15 years old at this point, so I could be quite wrong.

>and this is a racist conspiracy which Hunt because he stays
>in Trump Towers. ain't No Negro holding nobody against there
>will.
>
>everything is legal and nobody is brainwashed.
>
>alot of Haters against the Baddest Musical artist over the
>past 25 years and this is much ado about nothing. all it will
>do is increase his record sales and he will be alright.
>
>this is a personal attack against him and i wonder who? the
>Man done wrote for just about everybody in the music
>business.
>
>Kellz is a Pimp and He should run for a Office job.
>
>this here is just comedy gone wrong for the nezt 100
>installments of trapped in the closet. these devils acting
>like Kellz got a mask on
>and opening his door and saying come get this candy and its
>good.
>
>

neither of them had the past come out with underage girls however but this story seems similar to them. Older guys with a trove of women. Can't tell me the parents of the girls staying in Hef's mansion were all cool with them sleeping with old balls.

Meanwhile, thousands of girls got it worse on casting couches doing porn so I ain't really bothered by this story if they are of age. Far worse things happening.

Women in porn get exploited, so I can't have sympathy for this.

Wow.

He ain't make em dress up, slap em for looking at other guys, etc.

Sheen was worse but even he got sued for his shenanigans. And even then they were porn stars; not barely legal teens he groomed.

.

much concern for people going on facebook live talking about I am fine and I want to be here.

If people want to join a cult....

> .


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

While its nice to think of like your avg Scientology member was always loony, you gotta figure if you catch someone at the right life low point with the right game...

With Kells, dude implicitly uses the concept of being rich & famous to reel em in; its not as if he's like, "You're gorgeous and not a bad singer, how about I dress you up in guy sweats, pay for an apartment you can't leave, and help you completely disregard any entertainment career goals you might have, you down?"

Just because we all mature cynical ass niggas doesn't mean that there was a time we mighta got caught up in something; prepaid legal is still a thing, LOL.

WEEKLY. Still a thing.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

they don't jump out the box w/the weird, unlawful, awful, shit.


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shit we don't know about that he did with minors.

Like I said, he is a terrible person, but this is one of his sins I can't get as worked up about compared to pissing and having sexs with minors.


>they don't jump out the box w/the weird, unlawful, awful,
>shit.
>
>
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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other than apologize for rapists.

it's the only thing you have energy for.

weird habit imo, but that's your kink.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

balding ugly bespectacled troll?

Like I said, dude should go to jail for the sex and peeing on minors, where's the rape apologizing?

>other than apologize for rapists.
>
>it's the only thing you have energy for.
>
>weird habit imo, but that's your kink.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

while also apologizing for his shit.

I don't have to make up shit about what you look like or even discuss you at all.

That you're a worthless person comes through from your words every time.

I couldn't do more to make it clear.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

>neither of them had the past come out with underage girls
>however but this story seems similar to them. Older guys with
>a trove of women.

so you're just making up shit to stand by R Kelly or justify his behavior


Can't tell me the parents of the girls
>staying in Hef's mansion were all cool with them sleeping with
>old balls.

there's been no stories of women abused and not allowed to contact their families with Hugh Hefner

>Meanwhile, thousands of girls got it worse on casting couches
>doing porn so I ain't really bothered by this story if they
>are of age. Far worse things happening.

you're not good at this. porn actresses show up for a job, get paid and they get to go home. tons of male celebrities are womanizers, R Kelly is an abusive predator

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

.
.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Plato

And wondering why it bit you.

How are folks constantly supplying this man with young women?
But how are folks calling him a predator if he is actively being supplied?
I'm not sure why folks aren't blasting the parents for placing their child in the care of a suspected predator's care ultimately for financial gain.

in 2017.

As if.
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Stash of BANGERS somewhere in case he gets in more legal trouble.

free publicity

in 2017.

and a bunch of simple Negroes surrounding him in a circle.

https://www.instagram.com/97babygirl/

the sin from the sinner
and the fact that I grew up seeing a whole generation of niggas EXACTLY like him

but this niggarow is beyond despicable

I personally don't wanna hear nothing he does going forward
I can take(listen) the music I grew up on but won't be goin out to find it

a stance I should have had before

you'd look at him sideways.

I don't know him, but that don't make him exempt.

he reminds me of the blocc boys that usedta troll our Jr. High in they 63's/64's tryna snatch up all the girls. that was bad enough, with the girls ranging from 15-17 and the dudes was like 19-22.

THIS MAN IS 50 YEARS OLD!!!

convo irks the living shit outta me...like that shit was the got damn NORM when i was coming up...i got so many stories it ain't even funny

but yeah...i was beefin with a 'him' when i was a sophmore/jr in HS
alot of my (admittedly self-imposed) issues/insecurities with the opposite secks stem from 'him's'
found myself 'competing' with older dudes who wanted to be ringers

but yeah...I've always despised the 'him's' of the hood/world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOK23iG-jAA

Best/worst quote: "Kelly paused their lovemaking long enough to ask her, “Baby girl, how old are you?”"

New info from a woman named "Kim" who is white and apparently not part of the "cult" cult. But she had relations with R and witnessed first-hand some of the shit that went down.

http://jezebel.com/a-woman-in-r-kellys-inner-circle-describes-sexual-coer-1797003010

http://lincolnreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Kelly_0.jpg
https://www.fakeshoredrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/8715380_rkelly-annoying.jpg

Your daughter automatically ends up in a sex cult. How else did you expect this story to end? You have to work hard to fail at parenting true bad.
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DJTB YOMM

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and got the impression he prolly can't read, write or count that well.

as long as he is making music tho, he won't do time. Too many people eating off him in the industry.

He will prolly get the Cosby treatment once it's all over.

have black WOMEN IN IT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

THIS IS AN ELEMENT LEVEL ERECTION EVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DEFCON 74!!!!!!!!!

WHY DON'T YOU CARE????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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.

Not saying it's right,But isn't this essentially the same shit
Hugh Hefner has been doing for like 30 years?

One of these chicks parents introduced their child
To Kellz at the 2015 funk fest in Orlando

2015...after the pissgate
Who the fuck does that?

Sounds a helluva lot more extreme and abusive than anything we've ever heard about coming from Hugh's camp. Even if Hugh did do the same thing, is that supposed to make it better? The white man did fucked up shit to young white girls, why can't black men do fucked up shit to young black girls...come on.

I'm not condoning none of this shit
But whatever.

I read the article tho
Kells has been a monster

R.Kelly ain't Broke no Laws. MILTON get the brother on home. MILTON!!!!!!!

get the Car these Charges are Bogus! MILTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw the Hugh Hefner documentary. Them ho'z live by his rules. Hugh tells them how to dress, when to exercise, when to eat, where to go, when to watch tv and they all are under 24 hour watch...What's the difference???



♥ :* I LUV U 2!!! :* ♥

That's pretty much the difference

R Kelly manipulates black teenagers who come from poor backgrounds and offers them a better life to fuck him, that's predatory

but let's say both situations were the same and Hef was a pedophile, WHY SHOULD WE NOT HOLD OUR BLACK ENTERTAINERS TO HIGHER STANDARDS

into some kind of harem and cutting them off from their families, the big question is really what about this other guy.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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Its not fair! We should be able to be predators too without all the scrutiny.

and run it like their African and Caribbean cousins.

his hoes.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/r-kelly-underage-woman-speaks-out

non disclosure agreements violated, settlement money, polygraph test results etc.

i'm glad she's speaking out.

i hope more of these women come forward.

good job Cook County Sheriff's

we'll take you word for it.

She said she lied about her age to get into the trial

You slipping Chuck D

Yeah I couldn't believe it when I read that part. Keystone cops at the court house.

wtf

but um, is mental/psychological abuse a chargeable offense?

kels should obviously be already in jail for the underage stuff and any physical abuse


im just wondering if LEGAL ADULTS go to live in a commune, whats the recourse for the family or general public?

sad part is im sure u could fill up a coach bus wit more women (and girls whose families are chasing after the fame) that would still want to join the party

She is the real life Riley from the episode

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/surviving-r-kelly-former-girlfriend-alleges-abuse-w509860

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/r-kelly-trained-14-year-old-girl-as-sex-pet-ex-girlfriend-says_us_5abb6446e4b04a59a312bd82

sorry, don't believe her.

A radio DJ?

How you gonna date the R in 2011 and go that route?

>sorry, don't believe her.
>
>A radio DJ?
>
>How you gonna date the R in 2011 and go that route?
>
>
>

Done his brother dirty, too.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-43794843

https://apps.voxmedia.com/viz/r-kelly-timeline/R_KELLY_TIMELINE-desktop.jpg

from:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/4/25/17248084/r-kelly-sexual-misconduct-allegations-timeline

A chart covering 20+ years of a shitty human being. A serious side eye to anyone still getting hard for him and his music.

ahem, sorry continue

he's being cut lose by people who have suddenly found some morality...