>Inside of America I would agree, but beyond that I tend to
>think that statement is exaggerated. People who could identify
>as white have been around for a long time and I don't think in
>a global sense there is this fear of black masses crossing the
>mediterranean to take the land and blot out the people.


We both live in America, so that's what I'm talking about,
mainly. However "fear of genetic annihilation" doesn't refer to
Black people crossing seas to take land and blot out people.
It does, however, provide some thought-provoking explanation
for why white folks have historically done just that and killed
whole groups of people off.



>And because of that victimization, we tend
>>to have more "radical" views in our opposition to the
>>system. The fact that race was created and is exercised
>>in hierarchical terms corroborates this view.
>
>Sure, but there's more than one way to skin a cat.
>


I have no idea why you responded that way.
Please be specific in the future instead of
speaking in parables, as I've found your use
of them misplaced in this conversation twice due
to different views on the application of said parables.



>That would make for an interesting test, but I think you
>understand what I'm saying. There is a reason why people like
>Rachida in the past would hide their heritage.



That's the past. We live in 2017. The "save white
people" crowd is desperate enough to accept Rashida.



>>This is pretty much respectability politics... something
>>I'm not completely against, and I've never disagreed
>>that we don't have to view ourselves the way white ppl do.
>
>I'm sorry you see it that way. The truth is there has been
>much damage done to our culture and it's in need of repair.
>White people are not going to fix that as their systems are
>responsible for much of that damage. You can take the African
>American element out the equation entirely and you would still
>have a system that perpetuated lasting cultural damage and
>continues to do as such against X group of people.



I said absolutely nothing about white people fixing
anything, and am unsure as to how you arrived at
that conclusion.




>>I'm saying that the way we view ourselves isn't going to
>>stop the system from viewing us the way it wants to view
>>us, and excellence among ourselves isn't going to dismantle
>>the system.
>
>I'm not focusing on dismantling the system I'm more so
>focusing on building black people educated and fiscally savvy
>enough to exist apart from it. Perhaps out of that an
>organization could arise that could in someway dismantle the
>system but regardless it would take white people (or passing
>whites) and blacks working together and sustaining a very long
>term plan. I think it more effective to simply focus on
>building communities that can separate or distance from the
>negative aspects of the majority culture



I don't disagree with us building among ourselves.
I've said that both here and in the past on the
boards tho.



>If anything, it will intensify it. This is
>>how the system reacts to Black progress. Asian and Jewish
>>communities have a very different existence from Black
>>descendants of slaves in America. VERY different, and
>>I don't think it's a very constructive plan to compare
>>our journey to theirs as if they've provided us a blueprint.
>
>Again I am sorry that you read educate black people and build
>wealth as some sort of delusion.



I have to cut in right here. I said nothing about it
being "some sort of delusion." Sir, you fabricated
this alternative fact, lol.




>These are tools that were
>taken from our group how you can argue against regaining them
>because of the fallout of such is unfortunate. In Africa
>people are doing the same thing. I use those example because
>they work,. So what if white people try to attack it? Plan
>accordingly. It sounds like there is some kind of fear of
>reprisal you are typing about but again so what if thats the
>case. No group of people can not be outsmarted. Methinks the
>gentleman doth protest too much in this case.



I also said nothing about fear that white people would
attack it (although that's not a fear, just a reality, and I
wholeheartedly believe that we should plan for it).
If you're unclear about something I'm saying, please do
feel free to ask me what I mean instead of assuming.
Our road to freedom and equality is different from those
other groups for a plethora of reasons... not the least
of which is Jews got reparations.




>This is true, but it is also true that white people are not a
>monolith and I'm making the argument that the more truth one
>can display in their daily life will resonate with those that
>value truth and aid in dispelling the lies that the SOWS
>propagates. Here I would certainly agree that it is not enough
>to stop anything regarding racism but it can diminish it's
>potency to some extent.



Lol. I was gonna ask you why you even bother to
argue with denny. Now I see why.
Good luck.




>Fair. I think this story is still being written so we will
>have to wait. I do myself worry that we may just end up with
>another color caste similar to the DR but it doesn't have to
>be that way either.


We definitely will if we think sleeping with non-Black
people is any part of the revolution. You mentioned
Neely Fuller who consistently says "replace the system
of white supremacy with a system of justice as soon as
possible." If we don't replace the system, it's just
more injustice based on something else.



>>>The picture is not rosy but with the average empire
>>lasting
>>>300 years (America not far from that) and the longest being
>>>500 odds are whatever plans the white majority have will
>not
>>>come to fruition so the dying mule will die -- we just need
>>to
>>>keep our distance and not get kicked.
>>
>>I'm not psychic, nor do I claim to know all, but
>>I'd not count on that being something we can be
>>passive about.
>
>Agree, but I don't believe passivity is what I'm promoting
>


I don't have much to add. We have some fundamental
disagreements, but we do both agree that Black people
should strengthen our economic base and education.
I say we focus on those, as I don't see how anyone
could disagree with either.