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13142351, This dude is not pulling off Tupac Shakur (All Eyez On Me, 2017) Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Apr-06-17 04:40 PM
Check out this trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRgua3A3XOE
I don't mind saying it, Tupac was a beautiful dude with a lot of presence and a commanding voice.
This dude looks like them dudes you use to see at the club who were trying to pull off the Tupac look and were responsible for a lot of Tupac sightings in the early 2000s.
If they cast dude just because he looked similar to Tupac and not because he was a strong actor than you know this movie will be straight trash.
SMH.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13142352, I love the constant generic Suge Knight castings Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Apr-06-17 04:44 PM
Just get any wide bodied dude with a full beard and bald head off the street, and he is Suge Knight lol
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13142370, RE: I love the constant generic Suge Knight castings Posted by murph71, Thu Apr-06-17 05:25 PM
>Just get any wide bodied dude with a full beard and bald head >off the street, and he is Suge Knight lol
Same Suge from the NWA flick....At least they are consistent....
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13166422, Dude played a random thug in Luke Cage. Posted by JFrost1117, Sat Jun-17-17 12:55 PM
Weirdly fulfilling to see (a version of) Suge Knight getting his ass whomped.
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13142373, ^ lol, yup Posted by flipnile, Thu Apr-06-17 05:45 PM
Big dude, baldie, beard, kinda light-ish, cigar.
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13142453, If i put on @50 lbs & rocked a baldie hell i coulda got a look lol Posted by ambient1, Fri Apr-07-17 08:11 AM
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13142356, wait, is that the same Biggie from Notorious? lol Posted by Amritsar, Thu Apr-06-17 04:54 PM
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13142359, god give me a shared universe biopic Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Thu Apr-06-17 04:57 PM
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13142371, lol and they used the same Suge from Straight outta compton for Posted by auragin_boi, Thu Apr-06-17 05:25 PM
the Michelle 'bio-pic' on TV earlier this year.
I'm like, "hey, way to milk that type-casting, go 'head playa!" lol
I'm mad they didn't use him for this.
Better Suge
Dominic L. Santana (All Eyez on Me) http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/04/22/0422-tupac-movie-bts-primary-1200x630.jpg http://legacy.blavity.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Actor-Dominic-L.-Santana-is-Suge-Knight-e1453257236190.png
or
R. Marcos Taylor (Straight Outta Compton & Surviving Compton) http://tinyurl.com/m7blwnr http://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/R.-Marcos-Taylor-Suge-Knight.jpg
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13142362, Yeah. lol Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Apr-06-17 05:02 PM
They should have just used the Tupac actor from Notorious and kept it moving
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13142454, Wasn't that Anthony Mackie? Posted by Overqualified, Fri Apr-07-17 08:16 AM
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13142364, Semi-post jack: Cast your ultimate 2pac biopic Posted by Firecracker, Thu Apr-06-17 05:14 PM
Pac, Suge, Big, Puff, Faith
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13142366, Holograms for all them niggas. Posted by IkeMoses, Thu Apr-06-17 05:18 PM
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13142367, Picture me rollin. Posted by IkeMoses, Thu Apr-06-17 05:19 PM
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13142382, still going to get lit and see this Posted by Madvillain 626, Thu Apr-06-17 06:52 PM
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13142410, baby face Posted by beatnik, Thu Apr-06-17 09:35 PM
his face is too fat, they look a little a like but what takes me out of it is his face just looks fatter than Pac's, really he looks to have more weight on him in general than Tupac but he actually looks younger to me.
I think they cast Afeni well though, Danai Gurira could play Lauryn Hill too.
I'm also one of those people that think Jeff Goldblum and Orlando Jones look a like so you can ignore me lol
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13142954, Jeff Goldblum and Orlando Jones do look alike Posted by Mgmt, Sun Apr-09-17 09:11 AM
>his face is too fat, they look a little a like but what takes >me out of it is his face just looks fatter than Pac's, really >he looks to have more weight on him in general than Tupac but >he actually looks younger to me. > >I think they cast Afeni well though, Danai Gurira could play >Lauryn Hill too. > >I'm also one of those people that think Jeff Goldblum and >Orlando Jones look a like so you can ignore me lol
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13143034, "you are not alone Posted by beatnik, Sun Apr-09-17 11:03 PM
I am here with you, even though they're Black & White, those dudes look just alike"
to the tune of, "You Are Not Alone"
cuz they do lol
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13234006, thats ok, i swear my best friend's 4 yo son and cam newton Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Mon Feb-12-18 05:29 PM
are spitting images of each other
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13142414, i think he pulls it off pretty good based off the trailer Posted by SeV, Thu Apr-06-17 09:56 PM
i doubt theres some Pac unicorn out there that had the voice, looks and acting chops
if there was we wouldve known bout him
im glad they aint pick that one weirdo who was semi viral awhile back on twitter who dedicated his life to looking like Pac
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13142459, ^ this. Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 08:33 AM
>RE: i think he pulls it off pretty good based off the trailer >i doubt theres some Pac unicorn out there that had the voice, >looks and acting chops > >if there was we wouldve known bout him
He's got enough of the look, and from the trailer it looks to me like he did a decent job with the mannerisms. Can't be an easy dude to master, he was so uniquely eccentric in look, facial expressions, vocal tone, mannerisms...I actually can't imagine anyone there'd be more than a couple of people who have even a little bit of all of that, like this dude does.
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13142430, 'Pac had once in a generation charisma. The actor does alright Posted by double negative, Fri Apr-07-17 12:43 AM
i mean, biopics are ALWAYS corny on a level
the only one so far that managed to skip past a lot of corn was Straight Outta Compton but even then...those edges were looking mighty corn like
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13142447, Straight Outta Compton was on point. Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-07-17 07:39 AM
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13142568, Had to be with Dre and Cube micromanaging every shot Posted by j., Fri Apr-07-17 12:24 PM
I don't use micromanaging in a negative way either I mean they were involved all the way and it showed that's a good thing, even with the Dre as an angel gloss over
Even when we get the benefit of someone who was there for the whole thing (Notorious) the end result was trash
But Pac had enough drama for 2 movies, we'll see
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13142624, Haha agreed and that's because said person who was there ... Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 02:00 PM
>I don't use micromanaging in a negative way either >I mean they were involved all the way and it showed >that's a good thing, even with the Dre as an angel gloss over > >Even when we get the benefit of someone who was there for the >whole thing (Notorious) >the end result was trash
...for the whole thing, as you say, is trash himself. So the end result could only reflect that person.
Whereas Dre and Cube are not trash, hence Straight Outta Compton not being so.
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13142631, why is the woman beater NOT trash? Posted by MISTA MONOTONE, Fri Apr-07-17 02:13 PM
>Whereas Dre and Cube are not trash, hence Straight Outta >Compton not being so.
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13142635, I was referring to them in terms of their artistry. Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 02:17 PM
Not their personal lives.
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13142461, Agree with all this. Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 08:34 AM
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13142446, ehh, I prefer this over Clarence from 8 Mile Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-07-17 07:37 AM
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13142460, Forgot about that. That was terrible casting. Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 08:34 AM
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13142455, Marlo? Posted by SooperEgo, Fri Apr-07-17 08:22 AM
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13142485, Yea this looks bad Posted by Musa, Fri Apr-07-17 09:35 AM
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13142541, You can't pull off a Tupac biopic as long as Posted by caramelapplebttms, Fri Apr-07-17 11:41 AM
There are young people around who actually remember and witnessed how beautiful and charismatic that dude was.
Tupac was a supernova. It's hard for anyone to be cast in this role and not look like trash in comparison.
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13142555, Double edged sword. Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 12:05 PM
>There are young people around who actually remember and >witnessed how beautiful and charismatic that dude was.
Very true. Can't really wait til that generation is gone tho cause then no one will know who he is or care to watch it.
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13142561, lol Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-07-17 12:15 PM
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13142625, I applaud this beautifully crafted hate. Posted by BigReg, Fri Apr-07-17 02:03 PM
LOL
Kudos.
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13142983, LOL @ "beautifully crafted hate" Posted by Brew, Sun Apr-09-17 01:18 PM
Hahaha thanks.
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13142980, DAMMIT Posted by Kira, Sun Apr-09-17 12:42 PM
>>There are young people around who actually remember and >>witnessed how beautiful and charismatic that dude was. > >Very true. Can't really wait til that generation is gone tho >cause then no one will know who he is or care to watch it.
The whole 90's AARP run is coming up fast as shit....
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13142574, Yeah, intensity and just plain acting skills are lacking Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-07-17 12:45 PM
Guess he was chosen for the looks. I'll still check it out, but I do hate when I can tell someone is "acting."
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13142607, The Twitter generation would never allow for Posted by caramelapplebttms, Fri Apr-07-17 01:35 PM
casting for presence and skill over looks.
Denzel BECAME Malcolm X. What would have happened if they casted for light skin and red hair first? Terrence Howard as Malcolm X would have been a national disaster.
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13142611, By any means necessary mayne Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Apr-07-17 01:38 PM
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13142638, lol Posted by ambient1, Fri Apr-07-17 02:18 PM
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13142753, Elijah, we worried about you, mayne!! Posted by Dstl1, Fri Apr-07-17 07:58 PM
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13142923, with a shaky cig in his mouth Posted by Musa, Sun Apr-09-17 01:21 AM
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13142647, it's worse because Pac was a great actor. Posted by IkeMoses, Fri Apr-07-17 02:33 PM
you can't have a nigga acting like Tupac who can't act as good as Tupac acting like other people.
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13142651, RE: it's worse because Pac was a great actor. Posted by Brew, Fri Apr-07-17 02:36 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/10YS3ooFq0neiA/giphy.gif
>you can't have a nigga acting like Tupac who can't act as >good as Tupac acting like other people.
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13142656, http://i.imgur.com/x4yqX.gif Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Apr-07-17 02:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/x4yqX.gif
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13142742, AND THIS!!! nm Posted by caramelapplebttms, Fri Apr-07-17 06:41 PM
nm
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13142959, LOL. Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Sun Apr-09-17 09:44 AM
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13143514, https://media.giphy.com/media/iQGaM35rHA3Be/giphy.gif Posted by flipnile, Tue Apr-11-17 08:22 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/iQGaM35rHA3Be/giphy.gif
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13233920, How did I miss this. Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Mon Feb-12-18 02:32 PM
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13233926, Wee-Bay gif Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Feb-12-18 02:39 PM
>you can't have a nigga acting like Tupac who can't act as >good as Tupac acting like other people.
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13142560, I'm not mad at the look but the vocals Posted by 13Rose, Fri Apr-07-17 12:15 PM
When Pac spoke you felt it. I feel NONE of that in this portrayal. At least in the trailer. That's dope that Gravy is playing BIG though. Good idea.
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13142639, I think Anthony Mackie could have pulled it off. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Apr-07-17 02:25 PM
Of course getting over the lack of resemblance but dude is such a good actor who has never had that role to make it all that apparent.
Closest thing is his role in Sucka Free City which no one saw of course.
Similarly, I think Lakeith Stanfield did a nice snoop in South Central without having the full on resemblance.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13142652, Mackie already played Tupac. it wasn't great. Posted by IkeMoses, Fri Apr-07-17 02:36 PM
Sucker Free City is slept on tho.
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13166956, RE: Mackie already played Tupac. it wasn't great. Posted by The3rdOne, Tue Jun-20-17 10:08 AM
Sucka Free City is indeed slept on. gave me all the history on SF that I needed.
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13142761, DAAAAAAMN Posted by SsenepoD, Fri Apr-07-17 08:52 PM
haven't thought about that movie SFC in a while. weren't they trying to spin that into a show?
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13142971, No.. he tried and he failed. Posted by legsdiamond, Sun Apr-09-17 10:55 AM
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13143531, I don't think he failed. There wasn't much to do with the role. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Apr-11-17 09:06 AM
It was a bit part in a not great movie.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13142987, Hakeem from Moesha played him in MC Hammer movie Posted by Original Juice, Sun Apr-09-17 01:57 PM
He actually had the intensity down, but unfortunately he was killed a few years ago.
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13142962, There's some true COMEDIC GOLD in this post. Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Sun Apr-09-17 09:47 AM
Dat Terrence Howard shit got me DYIN!
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13143534, I think dude IS pulling off Tupac Shakur in a very good way. Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-11-17 09:12 AM
Joker's that ain't and can't will always tell you that they would do better than the next man.
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Wake up, Pray! Go to work, Pray! Go home, Pray! Love, Pray! Eat, Pray! Live, Pray!
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13166281, this jawn somehow move too fast and too slow at the same time Posted by Riot, Fri Jun-16-17 02:08 PM
so somehow they skip mad stuff (source awards? did the east/west beef even happen?) but then still drag thru other scenes
and those scenes drag because....
the writing/dialogue wasnt good like they had the setups for the songs (obviously the best part), but never fully nailed it on any of em
lol @ snoop doing his own voiceovers jada was the best actor, by far typecast biggie got slim. i guess he figure he done with the part now.... unless a badboy biopic come out in the next 2 years
overall not horrible, but didnt really show pac beyond the surface and glossed over most of the later controversies
i prolly shoulda watched it in the hood, woulda been more entertaining
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13167281, This shit was WEIRD. Posted by JFrost1117, Tue Jun-20-17 05:12 PM
>lol @ snoop doing his own voiceovers
Like, we've been hearing Snoop on a consistent/constant basis since '93, so hearing his voice and seeing some dude mouth the words was like those weird, disorienting VR demos that throw your equilibrium off.
Faith's actress was V.O.'d, too.
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13166285, Word is it's trash. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Jun-16-17 02:15 PM
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/2017/06/all_eyez_on_me_the_new_tupac_biopic_reviewed.html
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13166320, Jada went in on Twitter, too Posted by Stadiq, Fri Jun-16-17 03:38 PM
https://twitter.com/jadapsmith/status/875747603601686528
Like, they didn't even bother trying to get simple things right.
SMH
Let that man rest.
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13166321, The type of shit Jada complaining about is typical biopic shit, tho. Posted by Monkey Genius, Fri Jun-16-17 03:47 PM
"I wasn't backstage when..."
"He never really read me the..."
These shits ain't ever exact factual documentaries.
The movie likely ain't good, but the stuff Jada going off bout ain't material to that.
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13166327, Everyone assumes these are "almost-documentaries" Posted by j., Fri Jun-16-17 04:02 PM
I think a big part of the problem is we were there, we remember all this shit, vividly even
So when SOC completely skips Dre/Dee Barnes beating (It was a huge scandal at the time, and this was before Internet/social media) we're like WTF?
or like someone pointed out, this Tupac skips over Source awards and East/West (Milked by the "hip hop media" and contributed to his death) c'mon son
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13166357, Sure but Posted by Stadiq, Fri Jun-16-17 06:53 PM
1) that's a long list for just one person/ one aspect of the flick.
2) shows their lack of detail/research, cuz clearly jada would have given insight if asked.
Who else did they not bother to consult?
3) it's a film, but a few of the Outlawz are playing their 20 year old selves?? (Lol)
4) So the movie is sh!tty AND inaccurate??
And really my point is to let that man rest.
People have made enough money off him.
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13167071, they said they reached out to jada up front & got no response Posted by Riot, Tue Jun-20-17 12:44 PM
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13166352, the nwgros already love it, too late now Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Fri Jun-16-17 06:45 PM
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13166356, that Hot 97 interview with Benny Boom made me not want to see it.... Posted by rorschach, Fri Jun-16-17 06:53 PM
particularly the part where John Singleton got booted from the project because he and the producer couldn't agree on how Pac should be represented.
Benny Boom has the best intentions but Singleton (even now) would've been the better filmmaker for the job if not only because he worked with Pac and helped to cement the influence that the West Coast had on the culture with Boyz N The Hood. ---------------------------------------
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13166419, did you see the breakfast club interview though? Posted by Mafamaticks, Sat Jun-17-17 12:29 PM
where singleton wanted to imply Pac was raped in jail or have his mom in a lesbian love scene for no reason? or have a scene where Pac was talking to his own severed head?
If that's true then he should have been booted
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13166420, Oh my, if this is true.. lmao. Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Jun-17-17 12:35 PM
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13166438, Yep exactly! Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Sat Jun-17-17 03:33 PM
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13166497, W. T. F. Posted by Brew, Sat Jun-17-17 11:19 PM
>or have a scene >where Pac was talking to his own severed head?
Seriously what in the blue fuck.
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13234005, LOL after Baby Boy, i could def picture this Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Feb-12-18 05:24 PM
>or have a scene >where Pac was talking to his own severed head?
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13166507, $31 mill... it was projected to do 15 to 30 mill Posted by legsdiamond, Sun Jun-18-17 04:43 AM
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13166539, Someone on facebook said he was using an iphone in the movie. Lol Posted by DavidHasselhoff, Sun Jun-18-17 07:32 PM
I havent seen it so I cant vouch, but I hope its not true.
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13166547, Whoever played Money B (from Digital Underground)` Posted by The3rdOne, Sun Jun-18-17 11:27 PM
did a phenomenal job. I thought that WAS him.
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13166698, hol up.. that WASNT money b?? Posted by GROOVEPHI, Mon Jun-19-17 11:54 AM
lol, I thought it was him too.
and I thought they had snoop do voiceover lines bc the nigga that played him sounded JUST like him.
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13166708, wikipedia says money b, edi mean + young noble all play themselves Posted by dba_BAD, Mon Jun-19-17 12:27 PM
i havent seen it yet, will catch it streaming or on tv or whatever
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13166832, LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO. That was him!!! What's funny is that he Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Mon Jun-19-17 06:08 PM
is 25 years older, so he looks like he could be Shock and Pac's dad.
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13166954, Just checked the IMDB...yep that WAS him LOL Posted by The3rdOne, Tue Jun-20-17 10:06 AM
It fucked with me so bad lol
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13166925, I've not read or heard one review that wasn't negative, except... Posted by Cam, Tue Jun-20-17 09:02 AM
by the filmmakers promoting it on Combat Jack's show.
So, this weekend I bought tickets--to support--but went instead to see 'It Comes At Night' after the Wesley Morris praise of its excellent direction. The movie is horrible! A horror/thriller that is somehow boring--exactly what you don't want from that genre.
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13166930, watch Don't Breathe.. man that movie was pretty good Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jun-20-17 09:17 AM
I was screaming at the TV and shit.
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13166932, I saw that. You're right, it was good. Posted by Cam, Tue Jun-20-17 09:30 AM
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13166979, I had no expectations but I was impressed by the suspense and twist Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jun-20-17 10:49 AM
and when ole girl was talking shit in the street, I was rolling.
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13166973, Movie started off slow, mid-range budget, and got better during the 2nd half Posted by Case_One, Tue Jun-20-17 10:39 AM
The Kid Demetrius Shipp Jr did a good job playing Tupac and can ell that he grew more confident in the role as the movie went on.
All of these entertainers that are complaining should have offered input instead of trying to trash the movie
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"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Plato
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13233914, Finally saw this. it's pretty awful Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Feb-12-18 02:25 PM
Dude looked like Pac but didn't really capture him
The use of Snoops real voice for his character, we couldn't stop laughing every time he talked. i didn't know that was coming.
it felt very made for tv
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13234067, Yes it was just as corny as Notorious. I couldn't finish it. Posted by Brew, Mon Feb-12-18 08:40 PM
Saw bits and pieces the other nite as well but kept cringing.
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13234242, whoa whoa whoa.. Notorious was much better than this Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Feb-13-18 12:21 PM
I couldn't even get half way through this movie
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13234417, Notorious was head and shoulders above this Posted by micMajestic, Tue Feb-13-18 05:51 PM
>Saw bits and pieces the other nite as well but kept >cringing.
There's a decent amount of cringy stuff in Notorious, but really it's not close.
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13234455, Fair enough. At least I made it thru Notorious, I suppose. Posted by Brew, Tue Feb-13-18 09:42 PM
You guys are right.
Both cringy but yea this I couldn't even get through 20 mins.
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13234158, Unlike Straight Outta Compton, it didn't have an ongoing narrative Posted by j., Tue Feb-13-18 10:43 AM
I compare it to SOC because of the similarity (musically driven larger than life subject matter)
But this one felt more like set pieces:
"Here's Afeni the militant" "Here's Afeni the struggling single mother" "Here's Afeni the addict"
No story telling, no character development, no narrative that tells the audience HOW and WHY she went from the Panthers to copping crack
It was all very scene 1- cut, scene 2- cut, on and on
Same with the Tupac story
All the scenes felt very much ripped from headlines very video driven, and facing the same problem that SOC and Notorious have: We remember the most minute details It wasn't that long ago, and it's not even about nitpicking scenes these movies miss the larger back story, focusing instead on the media highlights
Now I see what John Singleton was talking about on Drink Champs
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13234170, i watched for about a minute and turned it off Posted by makaveli, Tue Feb-13-18 10:58 AM
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13234419, Saw it and liked it, now for the criticisms Posted by bentagain, Tue Feb-13-18 05:59 PM
I will say after watching this movie it really hit home
Dude died over a chain...a f'n chain fam
Wasn't horrible, also wasn't masterpiece theatre either
The issue is...any of the posthumous documentary releases were better.
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