Also, did Roc-A-Fella/Jigga sign Foxy Brown because of Lil' Kim simply because he couldn't steal Kim from Biggie?

For some reason, I've been listening to the Not Tonight EP, Hard Core, and "Playas Anthem"/"I Need You Tonight"/"Get Money" off Junior M.A.F.I.A.'s Conspiracy LP non-stop for the last 3 or 4 days.

Maybe this has been discussed or is known history, but I noticed while listening to Jigga's verse on "Big Momma Thang" that the whole verse is either about "stealing" Lil' Kim (with the finisher of the verse being "Lil Kim and Jigga/sounds like figgas") and making mad money w/ her on the Roc and the rest of the verse is WILD deferential to Biggie. he even says in the verse that he don't want no beef with Biggie/Bad Boy. Here's the full verse:

How B.I.G. and 'Un' trust you in the studio with me
Don't they know I'm tryin' to sex you continuosly
Pull a high power Coup make, you jump ship
Leave who you wit', I'm with the Roc-A-Fella crew
Trick you for the cheese, tear your boom up
Spread a ill rumor, make you flip on Lil'Cease
Twist you backwards, get the dough from your platinum hits
Rock Little Kim hats and shit
I gets down and dirty for the dough
I got love and Big know it, He must got the studio bugged
Probably, as we speak he's on his way up the street
With the M.A.F.I.A. thugs and all types of heat
But I ain't tryin' to beef, I'm just tryin to eat
Horizontally, the way I hold my iron, sweet
And dem my niggas But I like the sound:
Lil' Kim and Jigga, it sound like figures

I believe that some question how close Jay was to Big, and obviously Jay waited for Biggie to die before he started jacking and popularizing his lyrics. So, was Jigga SCARED of Biggie?

2017, we still talkin' about this?

>Also, did Roc-A-Fella/Jigga sign Foxy Brown because of Lil'
>Kim simply because he could steal Kim from Biggie?

Foxy was a Def Jam artist

that Jay Z/Lil Kim verse was flirtatious

Jay Z wouldnt have had Big on Brooklyns Finest or appeared on I Love The Dough if he was scared to rap with him

>>Also, did Roc-A-Fella/Jigga sign Foxy Brown because of Lil'
>>Kim simply because he could steal Kim from Biggie?
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>Foxy was a Def Jam artist

fair enough.

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>that Jay Z/Lil Kim verse was flirtatious
>
>Jay Z wouldnt have had Big on Brooklyns Finest or appeared on
>I Love The Dough if he was scared to rap with him

no, i'm asking was he physically scared of him. not was he scared to trade bars.

i don't know the answer btw. this post is just for fun. just something that caught my year and would sort of explain that verse for one thing, but it would also sort of explain why Jay seemed to revere Biggie. respect out of talent AND fear goes a long way.

In another Biggie moment, Jay recalls the MC making a cameo appearance in the video for "Ain't No N—-a," which Jay was filming with Foxy Brown in Miami in 1996. Jay-Z says he was never much of a pot smoker and only did so on vacation. "I could count the number of times I'd smoked trees," he writes. But when Big offered him a smoke, he thought to himself, "Relax, you're not on the streets anymore." So he smoked ? and got completely wasted, just as the video shoot was to begin. Seeing what he had done, Biggie laughed and whispered to Jay, "I got ya." Jay said it took him 20 minutes to pull himself together. Later on, he told Big, "Never again, my n—-a."

couldn't of been that scared since he put all that shit in the verse.

Jay was nice as shit

or, at least the impact of what he's saying.

this post is mostly for fun, not controversy. just caught my ear after all these years and made me wonder especially with how Jigga seemed to revere Biggie.

I liked reasonable doubt but I remember thinking "this dude is corny" at the time.