I said it's basically oral masturbation... not sex.
Hand job... mouth job... even ass job.
Only penis in vagina is sex.
My position was from the etymology of the word "sex"
and it doubling as a delineation for gender...
this is something only penis and vagina can create.

He said it's sex, because it's called "oral sex",
plus the conversation was in the context of him seeking
to validate all gay sexual contact as sex.

I say everything that sexual isn't sex.
In that case, thoughts alone would be sex. Kissing
would be sex. Nah.