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13060796, No post about Charlize Theron dressing her 5y/o black son in drag?
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-24-16 01:34 PM
http://sandrarose.com/2016/08/open-post-charlize-theron-dresses-her-son-like-a-girl/

We are under attack.
13060800, calls Merrill Lynch
Posted by rdhull, Wed Aug-24-16 01:36 PM
13060804, post count - O/U: 127
Posted by SooperEgo, Wed Aug-24-16 01:38 PM
13061933, You need to go work in Vegas
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Aug-26-16 11:01 AM
13060808, are you really outraged that there wasn't a post about this?
Posted by Big Kuntry, Wed Aug-24-16 01:40 PM
13060810, Its nice to know gossip sites can be homophobic too.
Posted by BigReg, Wed Aug-24-16 01:41 PM
MAN HATING, sure. But homophobic, very shocked. Also, LOL@ the shots at Jaden Smith.

"These images reflect the disturbing trend in Hollywood of praising and uplifting black cross dresing men, such as Laverne Cox and Jaden Smith..." lol.
13060818, lolz
Posted by Cenario, Wed Aug-24-16 01:50 PM
> Also, LOL@ the shots at Jaden Smith.
13060876, Is it really homophobia here?
Posted by flipnile, Wed Aug-24-16 02:20 PM
Being pendantic here, but cross dressing, identifying as transgender, and homosexuality seem like three drastically different things.
13060887, it is literal fear of homosexuality and transgenderism.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 02:26 PM
ppl are afraid that the boy is going to grow up to be gay or trans b/c his mother dressed him in a dress and ponytail wig.
13060915, he's already transgender.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Aug-24-16 02:46 PM
13060918, not b/c some gossip blog said so.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 02:47 PM
no.

and not b/c he's wearing a dress and a ponytail wig.

i'll agree he's trans when HE says so.
13060928, true
Posted by Cenario, Wed Aug-24-16 02:50 PM
>not b/c some gossip blog said so
13061054, yup
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Wed Aug-24-16 04:20 PM
13060944, What's crazy is I'm pretty sure sandra rose is queer to some degree
Posted by shygurl, Wed Aug-24-16 02:59 PM
Like I vaguely remember seeing her picture and was pretty sure she'd eaten the box a time or five. Either way she is thee worst.
13064185, queer or not, she looks like Optimus Prime challenged her to a duel
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Sep-02-16 12:48 PM
in traditional fashion.

and always up there with something hateful/antagonistic.

she sucks.
13060827, the fuck... smh
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Aug-24-16 01:56 PM
cmon yo... in a blonde wig?

i can hear it now...

mommy I want to be pretty and white like you.

13061473, ^^
Posted by infin8, Thu Aug-25-16 12:53 PM
pretty sure it's more this than anything.

You know I cringed when my daughter watched whatever Pixar-update of Rapunzel that was. she would not.get.off.that.shit.


now, at 9yrs old, she has dreads to her shoulder.

He aint around no black men...he's mimicking his environment.

He might grow out that $hit, marry him a white gurl like Li'l Fame and beat her a$$ for our reparations, wearing a wife-beater with an ironed-on photo of him whippin her a$$.

He might BE the next LaVerne Cox.

I hope he's in a safe environment where's he's loved and cared for. I would like for that place to be amongst black folk. But who knows
13060871, The blonde ponytail is the offensive part.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Wed Aug-24-16 02:18 PM
Ok you think 5 yr old can make a solid
gender choice, but she's destroying good
self-concept and self-image letting him
pretend to be a white girl. That part
alone makes me think she forced all of it
on him. She's just buying pets in her mind.
13060878, it's a Frozen hat with a built in ponytail.
Posted by KiloMcG, Wed Aug-24-16 02:22 PM
so not exactly a blonde wig. not to take away from your point, but i think there's some difference there.
13060884, lots of little boys are into Frozen.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 02:25 PM
that shit is a massive hit w/kids of all races and genders.
13060902, How many wear the hat though?
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-24-16 02:39 PM
13060908, 4 news stories about boys dressing like Elsa:
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 02:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3264003/Doting-dad-praises-three-year-old-son-s-decision-dress-Elsa-Frozen-Halloween-reveals-planning-dress-like-Princess-Anna.html

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/10/boys_can_wear_elsa_dresses_too_california_schools_sexist_standards_send_boy_in_frozen_costume_home/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/little-boy-dressed-in-elsa-costume-goes-viral-164651012.html

http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/30/a-stranger-criticised-this-little-boys-elsa-dress-and-his-mum-didnt-let-it-go-5912916/
13061031, lol, did you even check your own links? 2 of them are about the same...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-24-16 03:46 PM
people.

And yes I know their are wierdos out there like the "princess boy"'s mom but I meant in real life.
13061037, umm...all of those stories are ppl from real life.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 03:56 PM
these too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAAVTtJAclM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYBGs8w3Jzc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdHpezncR8o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T54eUYLZSr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2Jg7RI9mQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2Jg7RI9mQ
13061048, Ok, there are stories about murders and pedophiles too, does that...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-24-16 04:14 PM
somehow validate them?
13061076, your poor idiot....
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 05:09 PM
You'll be ok.
13061122, That doesn't eliminate the effect/affect.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Wed Aug-24-16 06:37 PM
It mostly only speaks to the fact that
the child's programming is also built into
the media he's feed.
Hell dye it black at least.
13061231, Why? What will that achieve?
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 06:31 AM
Apart from making him look less like the cartoon character he's wanting to dress up as?

You know dressing up as a cartoon character doesn't actually mean you have to live as that character for your entire life, right? This was just for an afternoon out?

Are all the cosplaying teens painting themselves blue to look like Na'vi closeted misanthropes, deeply scarred by Hollywood in such a way that's left them wanting to go outside looking like aliens?

Sometimes kids are just being kids.
13061274, Think critically. What does living in a white supremacist society achieve?
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 08:34 AM
Children are bombarded with images of whiteness
as the default. Teachers, commercials, cartoons,
etc etc, you name it.

You sound naive.

Children don't live in an Alien Supremacist society,
so dressing up as an alien isn't going to impact them
the same way as dressing up as a white person.

Sure, he's "just being a kid", but what that means for
a Black child in a white world is totally different
from what it means for a white child.


13061376, And it'll stay different if you keep segregating their influences.
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 10:24 AM

>Sure, he's "just being a kid", but what that means for
>a Black child in a white world is totally different
>from what it means for a white child.
>
>
>
13061386, Like I said, it's worse now than before integration...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 10:36 AM
and you keep thinking it's going to change.
It's different because America wants it to
be different. Integration wasn't done to
help us, because even Kenneth Clark's evidence
in the Brown V. Board of Education, that Black
children raised in Black schools had higher self-
esteem, was omitted from the evidence.
It was done to destroy our identity
as a people. It's working according to plan
because those like yourself continue to think
being around white people is an elevation from
being around Black people.
13061230, Oh, get over yourself.
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 06:28 AM
As if a child has never wanted to dress up as a cartoon character before.

13061276, You get over YOURself and stop being naive.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 08:36 AM
Just because it's common doesn't mean it's a good thing.
13061325, How is it bad?
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 09:15 AM
Seriously? How would this affect the kids life in the slightest if the Internet hadn't decided to define him by it? As if no boy has ever played dress up before. No boy's ever snuck in his Mom's closet and tried on a bra without bringing society down around his ears?

How is it bad that a black kid is able to find inspiration in a white cartoon character?

Sounds like progress that it's not alien to him. Racists and homophobes in the 50s would've wanted it to be alien... a black boy pretending to be white... a boy pretending to be a girl... in 2016 it's just another opportunity to have fun he shares with white girls.

If ghouls on the Internet didn't decide to actively bully a schoolchild they know nothing about, it would be a non-issue.

KING FOR A DAY
Princess by dawn
KING FOR A DAY
In a leather thong
KING FOR A DAY
Princess by dawn
Just wait til all the guys...
Wait til all the guys..
Just wait til all the guys get a load of me.

(Green Day, 1997. Your opinion is nearly 20 years out of date.)
13061340, I told you in reply 50. Read replies 62, 73, 76, 77, 80, and 81...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 09:39 AM
if you don't see it by then, you're either
purposely being naive or just not gonna get it.

"Out of date" lol. My view is more relevant now than
it was in the 50s.
13060882, so the fuck what?
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 02:24 PM
it's not uncommon for kids that age at all. it doesn't necessarily mean the kid is trans - it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

if the boy wanted to wear a dress and blonde wig i applaud Charlize for giving him that space. my only 'problem' is that it was captured in a photo b/c ppl like you folks here are awful and the photo may 'haunt' him later in life. but maybe not? i dunno. anyway, y'all and the paparazzo are the problem, not Charlize or the boy.
13060920, does him saying he's trans mean he's trans?
Posted by Cenario, Wed Aug-24-16 02:47 PM
>it doesn't necessarily mean the kid is trans - it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
13060921, yes.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Aug-24-16 02:48 PM
13061187, if he wanted a doctor to remove his dick would u cosign?
Posted by Jon, Wed Aug-24-16 09:16 PM
13061035, he's 5... he isnt saying trans
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Aug-24-16 03:51 PM
13060932, Your post IS the post.
Posted by Cold Truth, Wed Aug-24-16 02:52 PM
That's how it works.
13061033, can't get anything past you bro.
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-24-16 03:47 PM
13061712, I mean, when you make a post... that means there's a post
Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Aug-25-16 05:45 PM
Which means saying "oh no post about..." doesn't make any sense.

Which makes it a really dumb way to post.
13063864, It's the worst kind of posting.
Posted by Brew, Thu Sep-01-16 01:12 PM
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about how long the statute is between when a post should be titled "*insert newsworthy story here*" and when it can be titled "WHAT, NO POST ABOUT *newsworthy story* ?!?!?!?!"

Is it a day ? A week ? An hour ? Does it vary depending on the kind of story ? Someone help. Asking for a frien.......a bunch of shitty internet posters.
13061050, LOL
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Wed Aug-24-16 04:18 PM
>We are under attack.
13061052, Lil' nigga gonna be rich and fucking fabulous. I love it.
Posted by bignick, Wed Aug-24-16 04:19 PM
13061067, Not cool. 5 year old black boy with a blonde braid & a dress,
Posted by isaaaa, Wed Aug-24-16 04:44 PM
LOL.


But here it's NO BIG DEAL, smh.


Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg


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13061319, Only on OKP...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 09:13 AM
>LOL.
>
>
>But here it's NO BIG DEAL, smh.
13061068, You ever gonna tell us how being anti-Israeli occupation/pro Palestine
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Aug-24-16 04:46 PM
is part of the Jew agenda?
Nah?
13061080, 1st pic look like he spilling the hottest of tea.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Aug-24-16 05:22 PM
13061087, She is doing what US society is doing to black folk everyday
Posted by Musa, Wed Aug-24-16 05:44 PM
confusing the you know what out of them.

13061129, is there evidence of what age kids can sensibly identify as transgender?
Posted by atruhead, Wed Aug-24-16 06:50 PM
Im fine raising a zesty kid, but I dont know that I could trust a 5 year old thinking they were born the opposite gender

13061188, how does a man even know what it is to feel woman, much less a child?
Posted by Jon, Wed Aug-24-16 09:19 PM
13061237, tons of things are unexplainable
Posted by atruhead, Thu Aug-25-16 06:55 AM
everything isnt for us to get, I just support people doing what makes them happy
13061484, Sure every1 do you but that's why I can't accept it as real.
Posted by Jon, Thu Aug-25-16 01:00 PM
13061805, it's prevalent enough in society to be accepted as "real"
Posted by atruhead, Fri Aug-26-16 06:48 AM
I dont know the root of how a person is born wired to be LGBT, but life isnt about what I can wrap my mind around

these arent furries or people with weird fetishes that need examining (at least not as far as their sexual/gender identities are concerned)

I just think 5 might be too young to know for sure
13062058, i mean the same way u know it can't be possible for a
Posted by Jon, Fri Aug-26-16 02:02 PM
5 year old to know what the fuck that shit even means

i know it can't be possible for an XY to know what the fuck feeling like an XX is
13250316, RE: how does a man even know what it is to feel woman, much less a child?
Posted by isaaaa, Fri Apr-13-18 10:09 AM
what does a MAN/WOMAN feel like?

The western world has gone mad, and many Black Americans are gladly chasing said western world. Everything will be perfectly accept


Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
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13061140, I still can't believe adopted black babies r still in style in Hollywood
Posted by SeV, Wed Aug-24-16 07:24 PM
I thought they would move on to Arab babies r sutten by now

Anyway that kid will never be exposed to regular society and will grow up playing with other weirdo Hollywood kids in a Hollywood world
____________

Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
13061206, Owning Black folks is the "whitest" thing you can do...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Wed Aug-24-16 11:29 PM
as far as this creation called whiteness goes;
that's the pinnacle of it where status is concerned.
That being the source of their pride and very identity,
it only makes sense in American historical context that
this is a hobby for the richest of them.




13061271, Y'all do remember she is from Africa
Posted by JellyBean, Thu Aug-25-16 08:25 AM
born and raised? And still retains her South African citizenship right?

There just no pleasing you folks...let her live. Kids are happy and healthy. He may change his mind once he gets older and want nothing more than to dig out p---y. Maybe not...

My five year old wants to be a dragon! then other days she wants to be a vet then other days wants to be an old person.

The moral of this story, he's fucking 5. Let him be Elsa or SpongeBob or who ever the fuck! Kids can't have a fucking imagination without folks judging. ugh!
13061275, There are racist white folks in Africa. That means nothing.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 08:35 AM
13061281, there's racist white folks in japan
Posted by JellyBean, Thu Aug-25-16 08:41 AM
your point?
13061308, My point is that you have no point. Her being from Africa doesn't matter
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 09:03 AM
13061298, do you remember the history of S. Africa?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 08:56 AM
geez
13061302, RE: Y'all do remember she is from Africa
Posted by DrunkUncleP, Thu Aug-25-16 08:59 AM
South Africa is racist as hell lol

Apparently Apartheid ended and everyone decided to hug and hold hands
13061751, I want to be a dragon. I'm 29.
Posted by kevlar skully, Thu Aug-25-16 08:50 PM
nm
13061226, It's 2016, folks.
Posted by Backbone, Thu Aug-25-16 05:40 AM
(just thought some of you might want to know)
13061229, Stop.
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 06:26 AM
Everyone.

Stop.

This is fatuous bullshit that you know nothing about and has ZERO impact on your life.

Leave that woman and her son to get on with their lives. For all you know, he refused to leave the house unless she let him dress however he likes - kids do shit like that and occasionally parents give in.

Or he might be transgender.

Either way.

WHO THE FUCK CARES

Frankly, your lives are fucking worthless if this is what you're spending them on.
13061326, not real parents...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 09:16 AM
>For
>all you know, he refused to leave the house unless she let him
>dress however he likes - kids do shit like that and
>occasionally parents give in.

13061377, Real parents kill their kids fantasies DEAD.
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 10:25 AM
Quite right too.
13061806, Why does it have to be either or?
Posted by Lardlad95, Fri Aug-26-16 07:15 AM
There's no middle ground between, "You're a special special princess, and if you want to walk around wearing 40 pounds of costume jewelry and make-up even though you're only 6!" and "No, you'll dress in a plain, white, knee length dress and a bonnet until I marry you off"?

Yeah, let your kids express themselves, but damn yall pretend like parents have no right to try to direct their kid's lives.

Are yall out there taking care of these kids when they get made fun of at school? No? Then maybe everyone, on both sides, needs to STFU.
13061233, this dumb. if it was a girl dressing like Spiderman, there's no issue...
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 06:43 AM
my only beef is how does a 5 year old "identify" as anything other than a fckin 5-year old??




"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061235, Disney's princess shit negatively affects the self-image of most girls
Posted by kayru99, Thu Aug-25-16 06:48 AM
ESPECIALLY non-white ones.
That's kinda already been shown.
Don't think its a good idea to pretend like it won't do the same to a little black boy
13061241, ^^THIS^^^ should be the topic of the hour. This is my struggle
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 07:08 AM

right now.

I think I even made a "FCK DISNEY" post at some point in the past 2 years about it....


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061278, ummm no
Posted by JellyBean, Thu Aug-25-16 08:39 AM
RE: Disney's princess shit negatively affects the self-image of most girls--As a former little girl of color, now raising a little girl of color...this is the most asinine thing I've ever read.


Parents do that. Parents shape their children's self-image. Plopping your kid in front of the tv and never distinguishing the difference between real and imaginary, constantly telling them they are fat or ugly or whatever else shapes their self-image

I never wanted to be a mermaid, Cinderella, belle, mulan, Aurora (sleeping beauty), etc. however I did want to sing like them...it was always an aspiration to become a Disney Singer...


I swear most of you judging parents aren't even parents and have no idea the concessions you have to make to keep your sanity!
13061283, break it down 'Bean
Posted by rdhull, Thu Aug-25-16 08:43 AM
>RE: Disney's princess shit negatively affects the self-image
>of most girls--As a former little girl of color, now raising a
>little girl of color...this is the most asinine thing I've
>ever read.
>
>
>Parents do that. Parents shape their children's self-image.
>Plopping your kid in front of the tv and never distinguishing
>the difference between real and imaginary, constantly telling
>them they are fat or ugly or whatever else shapes their
>self-image
>
>I never wanted to be a mermaid, Cinderella, belle, mulan,
>Aurora (sleeping beauty), etc. however I did want to sing
>like them...it was always an aspiration to become a Disney
>Singer...
>
>
>I swear most of you judging parents aren't even parents and
>have no idea the concessions you have to make to keep your
>sanity!
13061287, Bean, i love you, but if you don't think constant bombardment
Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Aug-25-16 08:47 AM
of white images in media, and most definitely children's programming, has an effect on people/children i'm not sure what to tell you.

a couple weeks ago my 5yo son (who is light bright as a ma'fucka) said out the blue while watching cartoons, "why are there never brown people in cartoons?"

even HE notices that this is an issue.

*edit* sorry, replied in the wrong spot.
13061297, constant bombardment? thats on yall
Posted by rdhull, Thu Aug-25-16 08:56 AM
>of white images in media, and most definitely children's
>programming, has an effect on people/children i'm not sure
>what to tell you.
>
>a couple weeks ago my 5yo son (who is light bright as a
>ma'fucka) said out the blue while watching cartoons, "why are
>there never brown people in cartoons?"
>
>even HE notices that this is an issue.
>
>*edit* sorry, replied in the wrong spot.
13061305, constant bombardment may not have been exactly the right term.
Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Aug-25-16 09:01 AM
but media, in general, is full of white images for the most part, i don't think anyone can argue that. and that is reflected in children's programming as well.

what do you do with your children to avoid or minimize the amount of white images seen in programming? (i'm genuinely asking, no snark)
13061310, To some degree, but mostly on society itself if you take your children
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 09:05 AM
outside, but especially if they watch mainstream
"programming".
13061321, HA! What, am I supposed to just not take my kid to....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 09:13 AM
Target
Giant
Whole Foods
Church (we don't do church, but still....)
Playgrounds
The highway
The byway
Food Lion
The Mall
Home Depot
Walking down the street
Out to eat
The library
The book store
The pool
etc,,,

Fam, bombardment is VERY appropriate term.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061304, it up to us what we let em watch etc? theres plenty of stuff for us now
Posted by rdhull, Thu Aug-25-16 09:00 AM
>of white images in media, and most definitely children's
>programming, has an effect on people/children i'm not sure
>what to tell you.
>
>a couple weeks ago my 5yo son (who is light bright as a
>ma'fucka) said out the blue while watching cartoons, "why are
>there never brown people in cartoons?"
>
>even HE notices that this is an issue.
>
>*edit* sorry, replied in the wrong spot.
13061306, That's where WE as parents show them!
Posted by JellyBean, Thu Aug-25-16 09:01 AM
The internet is FULL of positive images of little brown children.

There are companies devoted to "browning up" books, toys, games etc. for our little brown children. If I get the chance I'm going to link up some stuff! Amazon has an abundance of books and things geared toward little brown people.

Right now, I applaud the Disney channel for having the most diverse cast of characters in their programming. K C. Undercover, Doc McStuffins---shows my little brown girl LOVES not because she can identify, but because they are good shows. However, *I* love them because she can finally see herself in the shows she watches.

She wants to be a vet or a spy!

I feel what you are saying Kilo, I do...but we have to be proactive about what our babies see!
13061309, absolutely, and i have been pleased by both nick and disney
Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Aug-25-16 09:03 AM
in regards to the diversity they have implemented over the past few years. though it remains white image dominated, there is improvement happening in this area.
13061315, See how it comes to "diversity" and "being included" when we
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 09:10 AM
talk about our own images in America?
because white is the default.
A white child can easily turn on a show or
a movie and see all white people, and it
reaffirms their existence. It has the
opposite affect on a Black child.

We can step in and help the situation, but
they still live in the real world.

Albionist is up there comparing a Black child
wearing a blond with in a white world to a
child wearing an alien outfit. Ppl really
don't get it.

I'm happy that people are being proactive, but
sometimes even that proactiveness is just a
matter of saying "look, you're there with white
people" instead of being able to show them they're
the default.




13061387, Of course they know they're the default.
Posted by TheAlbionist, Thu Aug-25-16 10:39 AM
>I'm happy that people are being proactive, but
>sometimes even that proactiveness is just a
>matter of saying "look, you're there with white
>people" instead of being able to show them they're
>the default.

That's why they have to put on a costume to look like a cartoon character. Because cartoon characters are... cartoons.

Most white girls would wear a wig if they were pretending to be Ariel. The point is that hair doesn't mean shit unless you're a racist. If we're going to move on from racism EVER we eventually need to get to the point where all kids can do this without anyone side-eyeing.

http://www.lightinthebox.com/princess-mermaid-ariel-cosplay-wig_p1347008.html?currency=GBP&litb_from=paid_adwords_shopping&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&adword_mt=&adword_ct=84187195634&adword_kw=&adword_pos=1o3&adword_pl=&adword_net=g&adword_tar=&adw_src_id=1810908567_301579154_21687113474_pla-104068895312&gclid=CjwKEAjwrvq9BRD5gLyrufTqg0YSJACcuF81LrVo5KZNbNDGyU2_6aCUX-lO8ckuJmYKox1_c4Y10RoC1Jvw_wcB


I'm not about to say that institutional racism has gone away or isn't extremely dangerous and damaging (it is and we all need to be careful ALL the time - and YES kids also need to see plenty of media centred around brown boys and girls), but this isn't that. Stripping children of their innocence and replacing it with vestigial racism is just as damaging. This kid doesn't need to be told he can't dress up as his favourite princess because she's got a different skin tone to him anymore than he needs to be told he can't be president or CEO of a Fortune 500. Let the kids dream because plenty of them will achieve the dreams and knock down ever more barriers. They'll be better than we were.
13061391, All these replies explaining that Black isn't the American default...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 10:46 AM
and you still don't get it.

This "dream for the future" crap is naive
and negros been saying it since 1865 and before.

We are talking about a white supremacist
society where everyone is bombarded with
images of whiteness as the default.
This is NOT comparable to a white child
wearing a red wig.





13061417, NO one is telling kids they CAN'T.. Kids SEE the differences and
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 11:32 AM
it affects them DEEPLY.

I'd never tell my daughter she can't dress like a disney star or whatever....
But SHE comes to me questioning WHY or thinking LESS of herself because she has eyes doesn't see anything resembling herself being put up on the highest of pedestals.




"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061295, lmao... this is buuuuulllllllshiieeeet
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 08:55 AM
My wife has stronger views than I do when it comes to Disney.

doesnt mean our daughter wont see any of these movies but its foolish to say it has no impact on kids... especially minorities.

13061296, Here's why I respectfully disagree with you:
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 08:55 AM
>RE: Disney's princess shit negatively affects the self-image
>of most girls--As a former little girl of color, now raising a
>little girl of color...this is the most asinine thing I've
>ever read.
>
>
>Parents do that. Parents shape their children's self-image.
>Plopping your kid in front of the tv and never distinguishing
>the difference between real and imaginary, constantly telling
>them they are fat or ugly or whatever else shapes their
>self-image

My daughter has ONLY ever seen ONE disney movie as of now. She'll turn 4 in October. That movie was Frozen, and she only saw PART of it because she didn't have the interest or attention span to watch the entire thing. That was about a year ago when she'd JUST turned 3. The ONLY reason she was even aware that the movie, characters, etc. existed was from her peers and teachers. She came home singing that damn song one day and I asked what she was singing. She said "Let it Go", "It's from Frozen". I asked her what frozen was and she began telling me about the characters and song. This was BEFORE she'd even seen or heard of the movie! I type all that to say; kids are exposed to the Disney shit from JUMP. It's everywhere. So yeah, exposure is the 1st step. And exposure is almost everywhere these days. The only shows on TV we allowed her to watch are pretty much Doc McStuffins, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and Olivia. She's since graduated to being obsessed with Paw Patrol. We DVR everything, so she doesn't see commercials.

>I never wanted to be a mermaid, Cinderella, belle, mulan,
>Aurora (sleeping beauty), etc. however I did want to sing
>like them...it was always an aspiration to become a Disney
>Singer...

I don't think you can limit the negative impact or guage it by whether or not a kid imagines themselves or wants to be one of those princesses or whatever. It's deeper than that. It's the constant exposure to the imagery and subliminal messages that they send by the sheer abundance of them. Princess..by default... = WHITE WHITE WHITE. So from jump, you tell your ethnic child "You're My princess" or some shit like that and eventually they are gonna pose the questions "But I don't LOOK like a princess".... and then THAT'S where the tricky drama comes in...and the uphill battle begins. It's the little things...that add up to a LOT. The hair, the skin color, the environment, the seeing their white friends dress up for halloween as these characters and look just like the picture on the box vs. when they buy the same costume and DON'T look like the picture on the box, etc. etc. etc.... kids know...they pick up on this stuff and it's VERY difficult and even futile to shield them from exposure to it....because they're KIDS and if they have peers, they WILL be exposed.


>I swear most of you judging parents aren't even parents and
>have no idea the concessions you have to make to keep your
>sanity!


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061317, YUP.
Posted by kayru99, Thu Aug-25-16 09:11 AM
I taught 2-6 year olds for about a decade.
Disney COLONIZES your kids minds, early. It's hella common for what you described to happen.
I had parents whose kids literally NEVER watched TV unsupervised go insane over the influence of disney on their kids, solely dude to social interaction. The fact that that COMPANY's influence over kids is so ubiquitous is kind of nuts.

The stuff i've seen happen to the personalities of some of the strongest lil girls is just heartbreaking.

13061329, Daughter wanted "Princess Sheets" for her new big girl bed....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 09:18 AM
COOL...I GOT THIS....

I find some sheets with tiaras and jewels and shit all over them... a lil horse and carriage... NO WHITE HUMANS ON IT ALL....


She take one look....
"I wanted princess sheets Daddy"

Me *sadface*....

You tell me where I can get some sheets with a Black Princess on them, and i'm down. ..... but I KNOW the next problem is gonna be.....
"SHE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A PRINCESS DADDY"

Then I gotta continue the uphill battle.....

Shit's deep yo.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061335, ^^^^^ THEY DON'T HEAR YOU THOUGH
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Aug-25-16 09:31 AM
A friend of mine helps formulate Black home school
curriculum. She was trying to find a professional
picture of hands opening a book (or some simple task)
and said it took forever to find a simple and decent one.
13061336, Once I had a class that was like 60% black
Posted by kayru99, Thu Aug-25-16 09:34 AM
mostly girls.
i knew that going in, so I was EXTREMELY conscientious about what and who I had in my class.
Told the parents, there will be no Princess stuff, of any kind, in any events in my class, and explained why.
They were cool with it
First semester was bomb..kids were great, everybody got along.

One weekend, one of the WASPy kids had a bday party at their home. ALL DISNEY E'ERYTHANG

By Friday of that week, the lil white girls were on the playground mobbing up on the non-white ones telling them they can't be princesses cuz their hair "looks different and they don't look like princesses".

these were 3-4 year old children of affluent, educated, VERY liberal parents.

And similar shit has happened damn near every year
13061539, no "Princess and the frog"?
Posted by Riot, Thu Aug-25-16 01:36 PM
im asking. i have no idea whats popular, still popular, or was never popular amongst kids in 2016


but she was the answer to the 'wheres our black princess' question
13061542, that's when the...
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Aug-25-16 01:41 PM
>>>.... but I KNOW the next problem is gonna be.....
"SHE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A PRINCESS DADDY"

comes in...




"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13061677, ummmmm...what about princess tiana doesnt't look like a princess?
Posted by dapitts08, Thu Aug-25-16 04:42 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=princess+tiana&espv=2&biw=1440&bih=776&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjal7ORxN3OAhUM8GMKHfajDuYQ_AUIBigB

my cousin does birthday parties as her and the kids go nuts
13061801, to a kid? skin color alone unfortunately.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Fri Aug-26-16 06:22 AM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
13062063, i hear you but i think having options like...
Posted by dapitts08, Fri Aug-26-16 02:09 PM
princess tiana gives parents an opportunity to help kids build a healthier self image and show them that skin color doesn't make a princess

i think with more options like princess tiana, doc mcstuffins, etc (*note...i don't have kids so my knowledge is limited) there is an avenue to begin to break that mindset

but with anything it is business...so parents are really be the driving force whether more of these positive images are created....because if parents don't buy the products....there won't be a market and without a market their won't be anymore products

just from casual observation even a brand as successful as Doc McStuffins is still having to fight for its place which is sad
13063804, Skin color isn't the only problem (link)
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Sep-01-16 11:53 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10154019515221939

13061330, alladis... my wife teaches young kids and said its impossible to avoid
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 09:20 AM
disneys influence because these kids are like mini Disney reps.

13061301, there is reams of academic work on this.
Posted by kayru99, Thu Aug-25-16 08:57 AM
and as a former teacher, I can't begin to convey to you the amount of sheer BS that comes about due to princess imagery in the minds of little girls.

Disney quite literally introduces millions of little girls to the concept of "beauty" - and all that goes along with it - every day.

And it affects them.

I mean, look at how much the *idea* of the Princess Tiara meant to grown-ass black women...clearly, the imagery matters, on a very real level.




13061293, 2016 and ThaTruth is still posting about LGBT shit more than LGBT folk
Posted by B9, Thu Aug-25-16 08:53 AM
Dude, you read SandraRose. You may be the gayest person in St Louis.
13061332, No I'm posting about black people shit, know your role...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 09:22 AM
>Dude, you read SandraRose. You may be the gayest person in St
>Louis.

Have you heard of this invention called social media where you come across news articles from everywhere?
13061361, Nope, this your typical gay hysteria shit
Posted by B9, Thu Aug-25-16 09:51 AM
And that you have people you know that post SandraRose articles on their social media, and you read and propagate that crap, is telling.
13061375, Again, if you're not a black man, you don't get it, I can't explain it...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 10:23 AM
any better than that.

13061662, Don't fall for the trolling. Let that joker live in the breeze.
Posted by Case_One, Thu Aug-25-16 04:18 PM

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.
.
13061316, obvious concerns aside, i'm indifferent on this
Posted by jdub1313, Thu Aug-25-16 09:10 AM
he is her son. he will probably never come into contact with the Black Community as we know it. From my own experience (lol) 5yr old boys are not all the same, and news flash they won't be the same at 6yrs old either.

meh.
13061333, RE: obvious concerns aside, i'm indifferent on this
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 09:23 AM
>he is her son. he will probably never come into contact with
>the Black Community as we know it. From my own experience
>(lol) 5yr old boys are not all the same, and news flash they
>won't be the same at 6yrs old either.
>
>meh.

He will come in contact with the white community and they will remind him that he is black.
13061339, he may be able to call himself white pretty soon
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 09:38 AM
i mean... why not?
13061348, His nigger wake-up call is probably going to be deafening
Posted by flipnile, Thu Aug-25-16 09:43 AM
Dude will be confused-as-fuck hearing nothing but that high-pitched whine.
13061493, nah. i disagree.
Posted by jdub1313, Thu Aug-25-16 01:07 PM
hollywood is a silo, especially for a-listers and their offspring.

there will be no wakeup call, no awakening. Mom is a US celeb with south african citizenship. her son is going to be walled off from regular black folks his whole life. he's going to be privy to opportunities and connections the rest us of wont have access to.

levels.

13061344, Don't see an issue at all, who are we to tell a mother what to do
Posted by soken, Thu Aug-25-16 09:42 AM
with her son
13061345, What happen to the "Gaining on Ya" Clan. This is what they want
Posted by Case_One, Thu Aug-25-16 09:42 AM
This is some foolishness. Dressing your son in a dress and hat with a Ponytail.

5 yr olds don't know what tey want to wear. They where whatever you the ADULT PICK OUT!
.
.
.
13061378, Exactly, people kill me with that "if that's what they want to wear" bs...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 10:25 AM
most 5 year olds would rather walk around in their spongebob underwear all day if you let them but you don't let them do everything they want because they're 5 year-olds.
13061390, more like.. "let them wear what they and I want them to wear"
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 10:45 AM
i wonder how the kid who used to twirl in his pink dress on TV will feel when he is 15 or so...


my nephews look at old photos of themselves asking "why was a wearing a barney shirt"

cant imagine them looking back on some "Unc,why was i wearing a blonde wig and dress and trans?"

13061408, shiet, back in my day kids had no choice
Posted by soken, Thu Aug-25-16 11:13 AM
I still dont agree with most of the things my parents made me wear but F it, I was 5 so it doesnt matter what they put me in.
13061719, this line of reasoning is insane
Posted by dapitts08, Thu Aug-25-16 06:02 PM
why shouldn't kids be able to dress in costumes?

why should adults control the way they dress 24/7?

why are you putting your hang ups on clothes and what clothes mean on your child?

this is the exact best time to let kids wear the craziest most mismatched outfits that they want. why not? (this goes for hair experimentation too)

they have years of having to conform to a dress code imposed by others.

give them the freedom to express themselves through their clothes now while they can.

i really hate that we as a society put so much emphasis on clothes and give what someone wears so much freakin power....it's stupid....

for the record this is the best instagram account ever:
https://www.instagram.com/whenchildrendressthemselves/?hl=en

no way you can look at these pics and not smile....if not that says more about you than the kids and parents

i commend the parents that aren't hung up on the bs and let their kids be kids and not mini adults


13061744, Save all that passive aggressive nonsense.
Posted by Case_One, Thu Aug-25-16 08:00 PM
No one is insane or has issues. That's not a costume and if it was there no way a little 5 yr old boy should be wearing a girls dress. Period. And yes it's a girls dress made for a girl to be worn by girls.

Next you'll be trying to tell people it's OK for 5 yr old boy to wear girls underwear if the like the colors.

You can keep that logic.

.
.
.
13061750, i'm not being passive aggressive
Posted by dapitts08, Thu Aug-25-16 08:22 PM
i'm being pretty straight forward about how i feel about your thoughts

and i don't know what you are talking about it ... it has already been established that the hat is Elsa from Frozen...so it's not far fetched that he could have been playing dress up as her...with whatever dress was available...or not....but to be clear...it doesn't matter to me whether it is a costume or not...i have no problem with him wearing it

and yes ... i would not care if my 5 year old son wanted to wear "girls" underwear ... cuz unlike you i'm not hung up on stuff that really doesn't matter...it only matters to the adults that created the labels
13061861, haha, little girls don't wear lace thong panties, homie.
Posted by KiloMcG, Fri Aug-26-16 09:22 AM
it's cotton draws, that look almost exactly like boys draws except the colorway. not that i'd buy them for my son, but that is really not a big deal if they had to wear them haha.
13061475, here's your other choice
Posted by infin8, Thu Aug-25-16 12:55 PM
which would you prefer?

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/why_that_moving_photo_of_cop_hugging_boy_ferguson_protest_20141202



13061546, dress like a girl or hug a cop? okay
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 01:48 PM
13061547, I don't get it
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Aug-25-16 01:48 PM
13061730, I think the point is that your choice is either that or this:
Posted by Jon, Thu Aug-25-16 06:41 PM
https://youtu.be/O50bOf_Z2cg
13061661, You really tried to make a point with that?
Posted by Case_One, Thu Aug-25-16 04:17 PM

.
.
.
13061740, he tried to get deep in the kiddie pool
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 07:52 PM
the fuck is he talkin about?

I really want to know
13250293, RE: here's your other choice
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Apr-13-18 09:16 AM
>which would you prefer?
>
>http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/why_that_moving_photo_of_cop_hugging_boy_ferguson_protest_20141202

do you want to re-visit this now?
13250296, damn bruh..
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 09:22 AM
I didn't get it his point with that photo...

and I don't get your point pulling this up.

13250310, Are u aware of the abuse and death that child suffered .. along with
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 09:50 AM
the other children that white lesbian couple adopted?
13250425, yes, but I when the original photo was posted he was alive
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 01:45 PM
and I didn't get his point for posting that photo. Pretty sure at the time none of us knew that kid was adopted. Maybe it's in the link but I didn't see it.

now that he is dead and was abused... I don't get what truth's argument is or why he upped this post

For the record I'm not a fan of having Black boys dress up as white blondes but I fail to see how his abuse is a gotcha moment.
13250435, This we all know.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 01:57 PM
>and I didn't get his point for posting that photo. Pretty
>sure at the time none of us knew that kid was adopted. Maybe
>it's in the link but I didn't see it.
>
>now that he is dead and was abused... I don't get what truth's
>argument is or why he upped this post


But you said both points are terrible.
You just babbling at this point.


>For the record I'm not a fan of having Black boys dress up as
>white blondes but I fail to see how his abuse is a gotcha
>moment.
>


And I fail to see where anyone said "gotcha."





13250438, so does this mean you don't know what their points were?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 01:59 PM
and a "gotcha moment" doesn't actually have the word gotcha in it.

sad that I had to type that out.
13250444, It means I've realized it's kinda useless explaining things to you
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 02:12 PM
13250453, I hope this isn’t about the Buddy G post
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 02:40 PM
13250522, I'm not sure what he has to do with you, but I'm only talking to you.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 06:20 PM
13250554, to do with him**
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 09:01 PM
13250297, A bad look
Posted by Lurkmode, Fri Apr-13-18 09:27 AM
Wrong way to make a point.
13250304, both points are terrible
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 09:36 AM

13250322, You said you don't even know what either point is
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 10:12 AM
Now you're saying both are terrible lol
13250428, I think they are both terrible because they aren't obvious points.
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 01:47 PM
do you know what the point of these post are/were?

13061515, Don't you dare slander our african queen Charlize
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Thu Aug-25-16 01:24 PM
13061741, have you apologized yet?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Aug-25-16 07:56 PM
13061669, reply #1:ego clowned me for buying stock in this thread smh
Posted by rdhull, Thu Aug-25-16 04:31 PM
13061865, no he didn't
Posted by Cenario, Fri Aug-26-16 09:31 AM
13061734, so y'all niggas discuss how celebs dress their kids.
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Aug-25-16 06:54 PM
that's your topic of conversation.

...

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13061831, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
Posted by Mongo, Fri Aug-26-16 08:37 AM
13061874, Is he a "homophobe" too?:
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Aug-26-16 09:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbFRYF-bbM
13063869, Maybe he wanted to dress that way?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-01-16 01:23 PM
13064006, 5y/o's want to wear their underoos in public but do you let them?
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-01-16 04:53 PM
13064193, exactly...
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Sep-02-16 01:03 PM
13064063, O.O
Posted by tapedeck, Thu Sep-01-16 11:23 PM
WTF?!

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
KING-We Are King
Babyface-Return Of The Tender Lover
Brandee Younger-Wax And Wane
13064192, Thanks for reminding me why I rarely come here anymore
Posted by John Forte, Fri Sep-02-16 01:01 PM
13250299, It's perfectly nothing wrong with a white celebrity dressing her
Posted by isaaaa, Fri Apr-13-18 09:28 AM
adopted black son as a white princess, he'll turn out just fine.

You people sure are xenophobic, transphobic and homophobic!!!!

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
13250305, smells like
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 09:37 AM
sarcasm
13250303, See.....see....I'm finna start blastin deez ninjaz on sight!
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Fri Apr-13-18 09:35 AM
Sactown lucky I ain't seent one'o deez beckys out here doin no shit like dis. Fellaz, is we all on code to smack fire outta shit like dis?....I'm on code, is YALL ninjaz on code?....Dis type shit is NOT goin down on my watch! ! !

I wish Amber WOULD tryta pull some shit like dis around my way, we flippin cars over, Sun!



Is yall ninjaz WIT ME? ? ?







13250439, *peeks in, laughs at fragile black masculinity, leaves*
Posted by Damali, Fri Apr-13-18 02:00 PM
d
13250441, https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btT1T9qpQZWhNlK/giphy.gif
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 02:01 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btT1T9qpQZWhNlK/giphy.gif
13250446, Interesting that you would find that funny given the history of Black men
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Apr-13-18 02:17 PM
and Black women being historically defined as less than/other than men and women in a white patriarchal society.

13250464, Have you ever dated a man that wore a dress & wig while with you?
Posted by flipnile, Fri Apr-13-18 02:51 PM
Since you have that unbreakable black femininity and all, and you seem to champion things like this, it shouldn't be a big deal for you to do so, right?
13250467, ^^^^
Posted by soulpsychodelicyde, Fri Apr-13-18 02:59 PM
13250474, https://i.imgur.com/QvpUiMJ.jpg
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Fri Apr-13-18 03:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QvpUiMJ.jpg







13250725, wasnt you the one
Posted by howardlloyd, Mon Apr-16-18 10:05 AM
biggin up that ignorant ass misogynistic video by 2 chainz last week?
13250726, Shhh
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Apr-16-18 10:14 AM
13250460, I'm mad because of the blonde hair. she couldnt find an afro wig?
Posted by double negative, Fri Apr-13-18 02:47 PM
its like one step forward, one step back.

make him proud to be black while supporting his journey for fucks sake
13250466, Isn’t this a costume for the Frozen princess?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 02:54 PM
Not that I approve but why would he want an Afro wig?

To me it’s an issue because more than likely he is trying to look like Theron. This reminds me of This Is Us at the swimming pool. I know Charlize is rich but she needs to get some Black folk around that kid before he ends up bating his skin or his hair.
13250468, That too. Interesting you brought up This is Us. DID YOU KNOW...
Posted by double negative, Fri Apr-13-18 03:00 PM
speaking of the pool scene

the black mom Mandy Moore got to know / the black mom who gave pointers on Randalls skin and hair is Sterling K. Browns wife in real life?

What kinda shit....
13250476, Yep.
Posted by soulpsychodelicyde, Fri Apr-13-18 03:22 PM
Ryan Bathe. She's a beast as an actress, too.
13250936, and gave birth like
Posted by sosumi, Mon Apr-16-18 08:38 PM
>Ryan Bathe. She's a beast as an actress, too.

Seth Meyers'(s) wife

or Teyana Taylor
13250483, Whoa
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Apr-13-18 03:43 PM
13250556, In case there was any dubiety,....
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Fri Apr-13-18 09:08 PM
...If you ever wanna know who our UncleToms are, all you gotta
do is peep the people defending Charlize in this thread.




Nuff said....