That's why i said decouple consumption from population, because while the answer could be consumption, it is a false assumption to blame that on the size of the population. Rather its the choices made on what, how, and how much we consume which are primarily motivated by profit not providing for the needs of the population, that have led us down this road.

We could continue to grow as a population and not be at the same risk if we had made more globally ethical decisions decades ago.

> and rising sea levels TODAY?"
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>>Our exploitation of resources isn't strictly because of
>>population demands.
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>It doesn't have to be but the problem is currently it is
>right?

No. If it were a population problem we wouldn't have so much waste and people going without.

>I didn't say we should wait for population decline to deal
>with overconsumption.

No but you seemed to imply that since the evidence was pointing to a decline in population it offset the issue, which it doesn't.

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