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12964756, The OG Hub is suing Quest and Black Thought... Sad all around... Posted by sersey, Thu Jan-28-16 12:28 PM
I'm conflicted about this story... Didn't even know Hub was dealing with health problems.
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/01/28/the-roots-band-lawsuit-bass-player-cancer/
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12964757, RE: The OG Hub is suing Quest and Black Thought... Sad all around... Posted by LEBANKS, Thu Jan-28-16 12:31 PM
wow I was just watching vh1soul thinking whats Hub up to these days. #crazy . Follow Me follow i back http://www.Twitter.com/Lebankstre http://soundcloud.com/lebanks-music
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12964760, Damn Posted by 13Rose, Thu Jan-28-16 12:32 PM
I always thought that it sucked that he just missed the big breaks.
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12964761, wow, this is sad Posted by makaveli, Thu Jan-28-16 12:32 PM
I always thought he left because he wanted to.
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12964780, so did i. dang. Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Jan-28-16 12:47 PM
>I always thought he left because he wanted to.
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12964783, can u synopsize what happened please? Posted by rdhull, Thu Jan-28-16 12:52 PM
>>I always thought he left because he wanted to. >
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12964801, whatchu mean? Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Jan-28-16 01:12 PM
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12964806, well, from what i previously thought Posted by makaveli, Thu Jan-28-16 01:16 PM
he wanted to leave, I was under the impression he wanted to work on different things or just spend more time with his family. I thought everyone was on good terms, which certainly was the case for a time. I remember hub came back and played with them at one of the roots picnics after he left.
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12964869, RE: I remember hub came back and played with them at Posted by bentagain, Thu Jan-28-16 01:55 PM
one of the roots picnics after he left"
my $.02
I thought when he got sick, that he wasn't able to keep up with their road schedule
that he HAD TO leave, because the Roots stay on the road alot
and he couldn't do both, treatment and tour
I do remember seeing him in Philly after leaving
still gigging, just local.
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12964785, yeah, cause like, wasnt he on the cover of Bass magazine right after?? Posted by tully_blanchard, Thu Jan-28-16 12:53 PM
or something like that?
Dang..i thought it was all about peace signs...
Bottoms up....and the devil laughs..
http://soundcloud.com/rayandersonjr
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12964807, it was at first, i think Posted by makaveli, Thu Jan-28-16 01:16 PM
I would imagine the Fallon gig is when things might have started to change but I have no idea.
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12965157, I swear I read an interview right after he left Posted by RobOne4, Thu Jan-28-16 07:30 PM
he pretty much said that lifestyle had was getting too hard for him so he bounced. But I always felt bad for him missing the big break. Especially since he was there through all the tough times. Plus he was fucking amazing on the bass.
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12964762, damn Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jan-28-16 12:32 PM
"Get ready..for your blessing..."
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12964764, RE: The OG Hub is suing Quest and Black Thought... Sad all around... Posted by Tiggerific, Thu Jan-28-16 12:33 PM
Wow. The struggle is real. SMH. I hope they can work things out.
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12964767, Omg that is terrible on all ends Posted by MeshaMeesh, Thu Jan-28-16 12:35 PM
>I'm conflicted about this story... Didn't even know Hub was >dealing with health problems. > >http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/01/28/the-roots-band-lawsuit-bass-player-cancer/
Sad for Hub, that is terrible he is having health problems and now money issues?
And sad for ? and BT because... I thought they were all on good terms?
Sheesh
https://twitter.com/MeeshUniVerSoul https://instagram.com/soul.con.fusion/
"She was on that tip about stoppin' the violence About my people she was teachin' me By not preaching to me, but speaking to me In a method that was leisurely"
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12964777, They were never the same to me after the Og lineup Posted by Amritsar, Thu Jan-28-16 12:43 PM
Do I like their music afterwards?
Sure
But it never had the same feel to it without Hub, Rahzel and them
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12964787, damn, back in the day Hub was the one Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jan-28-16 12:56 PM
who everyone said saved all his money and lived a simple life.
but doctor bills can change all that.
always thought he left because he wanted to do something different.
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12965460, My dad was very simple and frugal. Multiple Myeloma had other ideas. Posted by Jon, Fri Jan-29-16 11:23 AM
He was already struggling to make ends meet before the diagnosis, so there's that...but his dedication to simple living and frugal choices was famous among his loved ones...Then 6 years of Multiple Myeloma hit, ultimately taking his life and leaving my mother with astronomical debt.
The so-called "first world" shouldn't be this way.
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12965818, Sorry to hear about losing your father and the unfortunate financial debt left behind Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Fri Jan-29-16 10:18 PM
>The so-called "first world" shouldn't be this way.
It really is a shame. My step-mom has Alzhimer's and my dad was weary to put her in a facility which would care for her around the clock because of the financial impact to him and her pension.
People like to make Obamacare about death boards and other crazy stuff, but it's tragic to think that a man or woman can work their whole life for the American Dream to have an illness wipe that wealth away from themselves and their children.
Tragic.
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12965858, Appreciate that. Posted by Jon, Sat Jan-30-16 09:46 AM
> >>The so-called "first world" shouldn't be this way. > >It really is a shame. My step-mom has Alzhimer's and my dad >was weary to put her in a facility which would care for her >around the clock because of the financial impact to him and >her pension. : Wow, these are the kind of choices nobody in this world should have to make. Its totally unnecessary. Paying for this stuff should be an afterthought at most.
>People like to make Obamacare about death boards and other >crazy stuff, but it's tragic to think that a man or woman can >work their whole life for the American Dream to have an >illness wipe that wealth away from themselves and their >children. > >Tragic. : Yep...the real death boards is when insurance and healthcare CEOs decide how much to charge people for care, who qualifies, and who's shit out of luck. Meanwhile my cousins in France never have to worry about any of this.
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12966128, Word. More people than we want to recognize go thru this. Posted by PinkTaurus, Sun Jan-31-16 02:49 PM
Same thing happened to my grandparents. And they had two pensions, and my grandad was still working into his late 70s early 80's as a bus driver.
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12964800, Sad, even sadder IF it was Rich who sent him the letter in question Posted by micMajestic, Thu Jan-28-16 01:11 PM
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12964859, That's what I was thinking Posted by 13Rose, Thu Jan-28-16 01:52 PM
I don't know what's going on because that's their stuff, I just hope it all gets worked out and the old bonds remain.
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12964913, it was apparently Posted by makaveli, Thu Jan-28-16 02:31 PM
http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/blogs/real-time&id=366869971
I'm hoping there is more to the story than these allegations.
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12964842, it's funny how money change a situation. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jan-28-16 01:43 PM
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12965287, miscommunication leads to complications Posted by GirlChild, Fri Jan-29-16 07:55 AM
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12964841, This sucks across the board... Posted by ChampD1012, Thu Jan-28-16 01:43 PM
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12964893, Damn - this hurts to read. Posted by soulfunk, Thu Jan-28-16 02:07 PM
When he left i thought it was because he was tired of being on the road. Then right after that They got the Fallon gig which would have allowed him to not have to travel nearly as much. But Owen was already in the band at that point.
When I heard Owen was leaving I thought for SURE that Hub would come back, so when he didn't I figured there had to be more going on than we knew.
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12964916, 3 sides to every story. I hope this all works out for everyone. Posted by PROMO, Thu Jan-28-16 02:33 PM
i never did dig the Roots music as much when the band started changing members.
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12965089, the roots been changing members since day 1 tho Posted by dba_BAD, Thu Jan-28-16 04:49 PM
don't lump my man in with all that, hub leaving was a bigger deal than the more familiar rotation of players
i also didnt know he was sick, although i had my guesses when he left
if the story is accurate on its face, im just so sorry. i mean im sorry either way
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12965094, I thought he left because he was doing church music.... Posted by Castro, Thu Jan-28-16 04:52 PM
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12965100, I hope it gets settled and everyone is happy Posted by handle, Thu Jan-28-16 04:57 PM
But music deals are always more complicated than they seem.
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12965124, It was posted on here when he left.... Posted by TR808, Thu Jan-28-16 06:03 PM
The story was that Hub was tired of touring so he was leaving....
Then shortly after that the Fallon gig popped up.. and all of us thought ok so Hub can come back now because they would be mainly in New York.. but when he didnt come back and started poppin up all over philly then it started looking kinda crazy...
I dont think anything shady went down with the GROUP but when MONEY is involved you never know what can happen....
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12965133, 2007 was almost 10 years ago. it's sad he got cancer Posted by ndibs, Thu Jan-28-16 06:27 PM
but doesn't mean he should necessarily share equally in what they've built 10 years after his departure.
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12965135, If that's the agreement it should be honored Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jan-28-16 06:29 PM
if Hub lived up to his part of the agreement, whatever it is.
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12965143, i doubt that was the agreement Posted by ndibs, Thu Jan-28-16 06:44 PM
or else he probably would have sued them years ago.
this seems like a hail mary pass.
i'm sure they'll sort it out in court though.
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12965149, sure. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jan-28-16 07:01 PM
i was about to speak as someone with professional experience in this field but why bother? Lol
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12965248, Unfortunately, I expected this after fallon hit year 2 Posted by Riot, Fri Jan-29-16 12:04 AM
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12965250, It doesn't look like he's suing to get what the rest of the guys in the Posted by ndibs, Fri Jan-29-16 12:14 AM
band are getting tho.
He's suing quest age bt, bc he feels like questlove and black thought are getting too much.
But the other guys in the band aren't suing quest and bt tho.
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12965308, but the other guys are partial owners of companies Posted by makaveli, Fri Jan-29-16 09:21 AM
at least not these ones.
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12965350, No idea what what you're talking about Posted by ndibs, Fri Jan-29-16 10:08 AM
>at least not these ones.
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12965356, cool Posted by makaveli, Fri Jan-29-16 10:13 AM
now you know how other people feel.
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12965385, *howling* Posted by ShinobiShaw, Fri Jan-29-16 10:39 AM
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12965398, DEAD!! Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jan-29-16 10:48 AM
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12965461, goddam Posted by veritas, Fri Jan-29-16 11:23 AM
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12965634, bwahahahahahaa!.. Posted by CyrenYoung, Fri Jan-29-16 02:22 PM
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
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12966023, Questlove is the musical director on Fallon. Bt has frequent speaking roles Posted by ndibs, Sat Jan-30-16 11:33 PM
>now you know how other people feel.
They get checks for being in the band AND their additional roles which go beyond being in the band.
That is why they get paid more and why none of the other guys in the band are suing them.
If you watched the show you'd understand.
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12966087, Do you understand that Hub hasnt been a member for a while? Posted by atruhead, Sun Jan-31-16 12:21 PM
>That is why they get paid more and why none of the other guys >in the band are suing them. > >If you watched the show you'd understand.
This all boils down to contracts.
Some sort of money Hub feels he's owed. Black Thought, Questlove and the rest of the band get money as Jimmy Fallon's employees. I dont know who gets what compared to who. But the other guys in the band have no reason to sue because they're gainfully employed
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12965265, I've always hoped Hub would come back. Posted by Sepia., Fri Jan-29-16 02:37 AM
I joined this site 13 years ago and was happy to pronounce Hub as my fav.
Definitely looked for him to show up on Fallon. This is just so awful and sad. I hope they can work this out somehow.
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12965457, Hell yeah...get some suits tailored with a hoody! Posted by Anonymous, Fri Jan-29-16 11:19 AM
>Definitely looked for him to show up on Fallon. >
That would be dope
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12965347, Hopefully they work this out Toni and Babyface style. Posted by Teknontheou, Fri Jan-29-16 10:05 AM
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12965361, I didn't want to talk greasy about 15 in a separate post. So Ill park this here. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Jan-29-16 10:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMQRfliyznQ
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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12965395, Black Thought standing there lookin like "what the hell am i doing?" Posted by BigJazz, Fri Jan-29-16 10:46 AM
then the amount of his last direct deposit flashes across his brain's big screen and then he smiles...
*** I'm tryna be better off, not better than...
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12965404, you know he didn't want to stand on that box either Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jan-29-16 10:51 AM
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12965834, ^^^ Posted by astralblak, Sat Jan-30-16 02:19 AM
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12965954, Black Thought look like the auntie I see every morning on the train Posted by Sarah_Bellum, Sat Jan-30-16 05:54 PM
Same shiny ass bob and "I hate this shit" facial expression. Lol I swear I could hear him suck his teeth all the way from a mile in the back. ___________________________________________________________
DJTB YOMM
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12965454, it wouldn't take me 2 seconds to say yes to that Posted by makaveli, Fri Jan-29-16 11:16 AM
if I was getting paid like they are. I might even do it for free after a few beers.
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12965778, The fact Posted by Numba_33, Fri Jan-29-16 06:55 PM
you can clearly see how angry Black Thought is despite he's way in the back and the furthest person from the camera is funnier than whatever comedic angle the sketch is going for.
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12965835, meanwhile ? look like he having the time of his life Posted by astralblak, Sat Jan-30-16 02:21 AM
Kamal also had that wtf am i doing here vibe
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12965821, they labeled him black thought, not tariq, so i'm counting that as a win Posted by sndesai1, Fri Jan-29-16 11:17 PM
lol
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12965822, I dont see the problem? Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Jan-29-16 11:19 PM
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12966299, ^^^ Posted by Ashy Achilles, Mon Feb-01-16 09:49 AM
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12965833, Sia's legs looked fantastic. why was Natalie strugglin Posted by astralblak, Sat Jan-30-16 02:18 AM
with that simple ass rhythm... made her yt woman crack level drop so many levels
fuck that was corny
i couldn't make it to one minute
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12965862, as a real fan, i'm always happy to see this stuff Posted by justin_scott, Sat Jan-30-16 10:41 AM
never thought the roots would be where they are today. great to see.
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12966088, if by real you mean "white", sure thing Posted by atruhead, Sun Jan-31-16 12:23 PM
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12966091, no, i meant real fan, fuckboy Posted by justin_scott, Sun Jan-31-16 12:28 PM
you only want your favorite acts to succeed on your terms. that's fuckboy shit, and that's a fake ass fan.
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12966133, let's reel it in a little bit here, champ Posted by atruhead, Sun Jan-31-16 03:10 PM
there's no way to qualify who's a "realer" fan, especially not when dealing with issues like black folks performing for white audiences (Fallon's lead demographic)
unless you're implying white boys get to determine what's "real", which wouldnt shock me at all
my point was white fans arent as taken aback seeing black acts doing anything in the name of success
that doesnt make me any less a fan of the groups music that I love
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12966291, huh? that doesnt make a fan fake Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-01-16 09:22 AM
there are all types of fans.
no one has to ride for everything an act does in order to be a "real" fan.
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12965951, I dare you to watch Black Thought and not laugh Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jan-30-16 05:29 PM
My man standing there like a kid whose parents made him perform in the church talent show. Tuba Gooding look happy as hell.
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12965957, and the crazy thing is...he knows we see it lol Posted by mikediggz, Sat Jan-30-16 06:00 PM
nigga like man i know im up here lookn crazy as hell
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12965435, im not cool with speculating on people's personal business Posted by atruhead, Fri Jan-29-16 11:02 AM
TMZ is trash, one of our favorite groups is now so big that they make headlines there
but yeah that clip Buddy Gilapagos just put up, I have no words
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12965495, Yeah, you never know what went down between them all. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Jan-29-16 11:43 AM
And this is one side of the story.
I'll just say I am sad to hear dude was sick and not doing well financially.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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12965602, no words? Posted by natlawdp, Fri Jan-29-16 01:22 PM
stunt musical skit with the new Bjork.
-like the reverse of Will Farrell rocking "more cowbell" with Queens of the Stone Age on SNL. or like the other collabs with the school music instruments. tv show acting shit.
>RE: im not cool with speculating on people's personal business >TMZ is trash, one of our favorite groups is now so big that >they make headlines there > >but yeah that clip Buddy Gilapagos just put up, I have no >words
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12965617, one of my favorite acts wore Sia wigs for a check Posted by atruhead, Fri Jan-29-16 01:43 PM
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12965630, they lost you when they took the gig then... Posted by natlawdp, Fri Jan-29-16 02:06 PM
any gig really; cats could be wearing suspenders & flair at Friday's and pushing out on the weekends to gig, then one of your favorite bands would be...working and making music.
>RE: one of my favorite acts wore Sia wigs for a check
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12965823, he's been calling them coons basically since they started the show Posted by sndesai1, Fri Jan-29-16 11:26 PM
so his overreaction isn't all that surprising
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12966092, no need to keep a running journal of my thoughts Posted by atruhead, Sun Jan-31-16 12:28 PM
I havent been flagrant in this post
I was quiet until
a) they stopped making music for "us" (someone's exact words from The Roots were "'...and then you shoot your cousin' isnt for yall")
b) this series of articles happened http://www.vulture.com/2014/04/questlove-on-how-hip-hop-failed-black-america.html
combine all of that with whatever happens on Fallon and that's when I started vocalizing my feelings
but again, I havent been disrespectful in here
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12966129, yes you have been Posted by justin_scott, Sun Jan-31-16 02:56 PM
you disrespected me for absolutely no reason. so stop lying
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12966135, my bad for describing your ethnic background as Caucasian Posted by atruhead, Sun Jan-31-16 03:15 PM
next time you feel inclined, mention that Im African American/black. I promise I wont be butthurt
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12965620, I kinda always thought Torch would be the one to get a disease Posted by walihorse, Fri Jan-29-16 01:48 PM
other than noise candy enthusiast.
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