12917579, yeah but that is for the liars who do car commercials Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Oct-27-15 03:42 PM
even then with taxes and stuff the out-the-door price is probably more and you get some shit with a manual transmission and windows that require a rube goldberg machine to move up and down.
even at that, 24K for a full size is pretty rare. i think even the camry is slightly more than that now, and that's been the best mid-sized value for a long time.
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