>Even with Tyrese's album and comments, regardless of how good
>you think his album is...Steve Harvey (actually) made great
>points. The White boys just get a whole different type of
>pass. Black singers "HAVE TO" either make Trap/Club R&B, or go
>all the way EDM, even those who can truly sing.

Sam Smith's biggest song TO DATE is Latch by Disclosure.. The english have breaking singer/songwriters down to a science. Put singer on dope EDM/House cut, blow it up, then hit em with the pop smashes. Emile Sande, Labrinth, Sam Smith are the biggest examples of this. Keisza also came up off this.

The "pass" white singers get is they don't languish on Urban Radio. Urban Radio is the broken part of this system. Emile Sande sold 2 million records before they tried to break her in the states. They went the same route they did with Sam Smith but she got stuck because she had pop radio presence but Urban wasn't accepting her. And w/o the co-sign she isn't seen as legit enough in America..

Tyrese could
>make a song just as good as Sam Smith or Ed Sheeran, yet those
>Pop stations won't play it.

Tyrese doesn't have songs as good as Sam Smith or Ed Sheeran though... not in his career. Has HE ever written a song as good as A-Team?

But Black stations will play Sam
>and Ed's songs...and the trendy 12-25 Rap stations won't even
>play the Tyrese type songs because it's not "for their target
>demographic."
>
>

Stay With Me is a pop song. It is not a traditional R&B song at all. It has elements the same way that JL's All of Me is a pop song with R&B Elements.

The problem is (much like urban radio) the non-rhythmic R&B vehicle is broken. The system that Sam, Emeli, Ed and even Keisza take is locked in place. The system that Drake, The Weeknd, Fetty Wap take is in place.

Eric, Tinashe, Jidenna, Ty$, Chris all work the shit out of the Rhythmic R&B system because it is intact. It scales where young people are at (clubs) and pop radio.

Ariana Grande was her own system. Tested and succeeded on nickelodeon. Harmony Samuels giving her Jordin Sparks records was genius. They reverse Mariah'd her by starting in Puffy Era Mariah since she is pop enough just on background alone.

Traditional R&B basically means 90s-ish R&B. No one is making Anita Baker records or Aretha records. That time period resonates with a specific age group so it gets thrown to the 35+ boat cruise ass niggas