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12747585, Fat Faced Chicken loving NYC folks, your dreams have been fulfilled
Posted by Numba_33, Tue Mar-10-15 09:50 PM
Chick-Fil-A is scheduled to open up a new Chick-Fil-A that should open up this summer. Have to admit, I'll probabaly head over there on cheat day Saturdays to get some nice waffle fries.

Link and swipe below.

Link: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20150310/RETAIL_APPAREL/150319994/chick-fil-a-to-launch-first-nyc-eatery-on-sixth-ave

Swipe:

Three-story Chick-fil-A to open here this summer
The popular fried chicken sandwich chain will establish a three-story location on Sixth Avenue, but don't expect it to be open on Sunday.

Adrianne Pasquarelli
Courtesy of Chick-fil-A
Rendering of New York City's first Chick-fil-A on Sixth Avenue at the corner of West 37th Street.

Published: March 10, 2015 - 10:20 am

Why did the chicken cross the Hudson? To open the first stand-alone Chick-fil-A in New York City.

The Atlanta-based restaurant chain will debut a three-level eatery at 1000 Sixth Ave., at the corner of West 37th Street, in late summer. The 5,000-square-foot space marks the 48-year-old company’s first foray into the Big Apple market, though it has operated a tiny outpost within the food hall of New York University’s campus for years. The closest location is 15 miles away in Paramus, N.J.

"We are beyond excited about opening our first freestanding restaurant in New York," said Carrie Kurlander, vice president of public relations. "This location will allow us to serve fans who have been asking us to come to New York and to earn the opportunity to serve new customers." She noted that the company is actively working on additional restaurants to open here this year and next.

Like its other 1,850 locations, Chick-fil-A’s New York restaurant, which is a franchise location, will not be open on Sundays, as the company "believes all operators and team members deserve a day off," according to a spokeswoman. Of course, only operating six days of a week will make affording the city’s hefty rents a difficult task. The asking rent for the Sixth Avenue space was $450 a square foot for the ground floor, for example.

It also remains to be seen how the city’s gay community will welcome the chain. Chick-fil-A met with controversy three years ago in Boston following anti-same-sex marriage comments made by company Chief Executive Dan Cathy. Since then, Mr. Cathy has reportedly said he will no longer mix business with social issues.

" believes in doing everything with integrity, and that really comes across," said Michael Cohen, the owner of the Sixth Avenue space.

"We hope that Chick-fil-A's planned entrance to New York City comes with a side of LGBT-inclusivity and a newly-thought strategy for supporting ventures that are equality friendly," said Nathan Schaefer, executive director of Empire State Pride Agenda. "The bedrock of our city is built on diversity and the history of the LGBT civil rights movement took place on our streets; we encourage all new businesses, including Chick-fil-A, to learn from the mistakes they've made and welcome a new era that is reflective of the people they will be serving."
Courtesy of Chick-fil-A

The eatery, whose ground and second floors and basement are 2,200 square feet each, will boast 10 registers—more than any other existing outpost—and as many as 80 seats. Its position on the Sixth Avenue corridor will further connect the growing neighborhoods of Herald Square and Bryant Park, said Jack Terzi, the JTRE Holdings broker who handled negotiations for Mr. Cohen.

"There’s tremendous retail activity in the area," said Mr. Terzi. He noted that he will soon market a space on West 38th Street and Sixth Avenue.

Jeremy Ezra of RKF represented the chicken chain in negotiations.
12747603, 3 Story? Wow
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Tue Mar-10-15 10:13 PM
12747751, Yeah, at three stories
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 07:54 AM
I'm worried that's going to be a tourist death trap in terms of how crowded it's going to be. I still plan to treat myself on Saturdays though. I don't know of too many places where I can get waffle cut fries.
12747727, Literally an avenue away from the JOB. Problems.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Mar-11-15 06:44 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r
12747794, RE: Literally an avenue away from the JOB. Problems.
Posted by murph71, Wed Mar-11-15 08:31 AM




lol.....
12747967, I'm happy and sad that I don't work on 35th anymore
Posted by 13Rose, Wed Mar-11-15 10:10 AM
This would be a HUGE problem for me. In the summer when I have my bike though I still might make a run. My GOD I can't wait for those breakfast chicken biscuits! I've only had them MAYBE twice and cursed the heavens ever since.
12747788, Damn at the rent
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Wed Mar-11-15 08:28 AM
he asking rent for the Sixth Avenue space was $450 a square foot for the ground floor, for example.

The eatery, whose ground and second floors and basement are 2,200 square feet each

But between the transplants and the hipsters, CF gonna be alright.
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huh
12747983, RE: Damn at the rent
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 10:18 AM
>he asking rent for the Sixth Avenue space was $450 a square
>foot for the ground floor, for example.
>
>The eatery, whose ground and second floors and basement are
>2,200 square feet each

I'm assuming that you crunch numbers for a living or own your own business to want to crunch those numbers on your own initiative.

>But between the transplants and the hipsters, CF gonna be
>alright.

I'm sure that location will be quite profitable, even with them closing on Sundays; longtime NYC folks like myself will flock to this store in droves based on the fact they store has been held back for years now, outside of the Chick-Fil-A for NYU students. And holding the initial opening to one location will drive folks there even more than if there were multiple spots in the city.
12748184, RE: Damn at the rent
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Wed Mar-11-15 12:02 PM

>I'm assuming that you crunch numbers for a living or own your
>own business to want to crunch those numbers on your own
>initiative.

Yes and yes. LOL

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huh
12748052, Par for the course here in the city
Posted by nipsey, Wed Mar-11-15 10:50 AM
It's amazing how much rent goes for. Whatever Chick fil A is paying in Herald Square, it's probably less than what Shake Shack and Apple pay for their space in Grand Central Terminal. But these places make enough to cover that rent. I'm amazed by it.
12748065, plus there are probably plenty of concessions in the lease
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 10:54 AM
I see this up close and personal everyday
12748148, If you can give more info, what do you mean?
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 11:44 AM
I'm aware for rental locations there are tax breaks if a certain amount of space is reserved for low income folks, but I wasn't aware retail spots had concessions.
12748239, basically anything that will sweeten or close the deal
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 12:29 PM
regardless of whether it's commercial or residential
that's about as deep as I can go on the topic.
12748631, RE: basically anything that will sweeten or close the deal
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 03:57 PM
>regardless of whether it's commercial or residential
>that's about as deep as I can go on the topic.

Outside of employment practices and maybe space for handicapped/wheelchair folk, I can't think of anything else that could merit a tax break for a retail space. I wish I knew more info just out of want to know more, but I respect that you have to keep your mouth shut since your knowledge is job related and is tied to contracts you're had hands in.
12748654, concessions don't only come in the form of tax breaks n/m
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 04:13 PM
12747795, damn @ 3 stories. but trust that service still going be on point
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Mar-11-15 08:33 AM
that's probably going be 100+ high quality low level jobs (relatively)
12747815, I'd rather have 3 stores distributed throughout the city.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Mar-11-15 08:46 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r
12747838, I have a feeling the Chick-Fil-A doesn't want
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 08:58 AM
to oversaturate NYC at first. I know of two Five Guys spots that closed down late last year; one near the Wall Street area and one that was close to Barclays Arena. Build one spot to properly gauge interest and build further locations if this one spot is profitable. Also, multi-level fast food joints are present in NYC; I know of a Burger King spot near the Wall Street area that is either two or three stories.
12748668, my local Five Guys in Flushing closed as well
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 04:20 PM
to make way for a Nike Clearance Store
12748025, employees will be out on the curb taking orders on ipads...
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Mar-11-15 10:39 AM
I went through drive through and it was slammed packed with 10 cars ahead of me..

thought it would be a long wait...

an employee walked up to my car in the rain to take my order.

MIND BLOWN!!!
12748201, yea they do that at the chik fil a in atlanta
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Mar-11-15 12:10 PM
don't matter if the line is around the corner
by the time you get to that front shit will be ready
12748816, ya they dont play, they probably still hit you with the "my pleasure"
Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Wed Mar-11-15 08:11 PM
too


good little chicken drones
12747823, Gonna be nuts. Manhattan has 7 Shake Shakes and they stay packed
Posted by BigReg, Wed Mar-11-15 08:49 AM
Considering how niche of a product this is, it's gonna be 30+ minute lines indefinately.



>Chick-Fil-A is scheduled to open up a new Chick-Fil-A that
>should open up this summer. Have to admit, I'll probabaly head
>over there on cheat day Saturdays to get some nice waffle
>fries.
>
>Link and swipe below.
>
>Link:
>http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20150310/RETAIL_APPAREL/150319994/chick-fil-a-to-launch-first-nyc-eatery-on-sixth-ave
>
>Swipe:
>
>Three-story Chick-fil-A to open here this summer
>The popular fried chicken sandwich chain will establish a
>three-story location on Sixth Avenue, but don't expect it to
>be open on Sunday.
>
>Adrianne Pasquarelli
>Courtesy of Chick-fil-A
>Rendering of New York City's first Chick-fil-A on Sixth Avenue
>at the corner of West 37th Street.
>
>Published: March 10, 2015 - 10:20 am
>
>Why did the chicken cross the Hudson? To open the first
>stand-alone Chick-fil-A in New York City.
>
>The Atlanta-based restaurant chain will debut a three-level
>eatery at 1000 Sixth Ave., at the corner of West 37th Street,
>in late summer. The 5,000-square-foot space marks the
>48-year-old company’s first foray into the Big Apple market,
>though it has operated a tiny outpost within the food hall of
>New York University’s campus for years. The closest location
>is 15 miles away in Paramus, N.J.
>
>"We are beyond excited about opening our first freestanding
>restaurant in New York," said Carrie Kurlander, vice president
>of public relations. "This location will allow us to serve
>fans who have been asking us to come to New York and to earn
>the opportunity to serve new customers." She noted that the
>company is actively working on additional restaurants to open
>here this year and next.
>
>Like its other 1,850 locations, Chick-fil-A’s New York
>restaurant, which is a franchise location, will not be open on
>Sundays, as the company "believes all operators and team
>members deserve a day off," according to a spokeswoman. Of
>course, only operating six days of a week will make affording
>the city’s hefty rents a difficult task. The asking rent for
>the Sixth Avenue space was $450 a square foot for the ground
>floor, for example.
>
>It also remains to be seen how the city’s gay community will
>welcome the chain. Chick-fil-A met with controversy three
>years ago in Boston following anti-same-sex marriage comments
>made by company Chief Executive Dan Cathy. Since then, Mr.
>Cathy has reportedly said he will no longer mix business with
>social issues.
>
>" believes in doing everything with integrity,
>and that really comes across," said Michael Cohen, the owner
>of the Sixth Avenue space.
>
>"We hope that Chick-fil-A's planned entrance to New York City
>comes with a side of LGBT-inclusivity and a newly-thought
>strategy for supporting ventures that are equality friendly,"
>said Nathan Schaefer, executive director of Empire State Pride
>Agenda. "The bedrock of our city is built on diversity and the
>history of the LGBT civil rights movement took place on our
>streets; we encourage all new businesses, including
>Chick-fil-A, to learn from the mistakes they've made and
>welcome a new era that is reflective of the people they will
>be serving."
>Courtesy of Chick-fil-A
>
>The eatery, whose ground and second floors and basement are
>2,200 square feet each, will boast 10 registers—more than
>any other existing outpost—and as many as 80 seats. Its
>position on the Sixth Avenue corridor will further connect the
>growing neighborhoods of Herald Square and Bryant Park, said
>Jack Terzi, the JTRE Holdings broker who handled negotiations
>for Mr. Cohen.
>
>"There’s tremendous retail activity in the area," said Mr.
>Terzi. He noted that he will soon market a space on West 38th
>Street and Sixth Avenue.
>
>Jeremy Ezra of RKF represented the chicken chain in
>negotiations.
12747832, what's the verdict on shake shack?
Posted by southphillyman, Wed Mar-11-15 08:56 AM
i'm going to one in april (plan my fat days out in advance)
but i recently heard it ain't really all that compared to something like in & out or fatburger
12748031, Imho, compared to in and out, no
Posted by BigReg, Wed Mar-11-15 10:42 AM
Shake Shake has great seasoned quality meat & some cool ideas (their fried mushroom+cheddar patty is to die for, particularly stacked on top of their regular burger).

However the fries suck ass, along with waiting 20 minutes in some location to get one.

Imho, factoring price and everything else, I prefer In and Out. But it's still a good burger. Not a huge fan of Fatburger, and while I mess with 5 Guys its mainly because of the ten tons of fries they throw at you.

>i'm going to one in april (plan my fat days out in advance)
>but i recently heard it ain't really all that compared to
>something like in & out or fatburger
12748032, Imho, compared to in and out, no
Posted by BigReg, Wed Mar-11-15 10:42 AM
Shake Shake has great seasoned quality meat & some cool ideas (their fried mushroom+cheddar patty is to die for, particularly stacked on top of their regular burger).

However the fries suck ass, along with waiting 20 minutes in some location to get one.

Imho, factoring price and everything else, I prefer In and Out. But it's still a good burger. Not a huge fan of Fatburger, and while I mess with 5 Guys its mainly because of the ten tons of fries they throw at you.

>i'm going to one in april (plan my fat days out in advance)
>but i recently heard it ain't really all that compared to
>something like in & out or fatburger
12748047, The shakes are better than the burgers
Posted by nipsey, Wed Mar-11-15 10:47 AM
The burgers are aight. You can get comparable or better burgers for the same price anywhere. The shakes stand out to me. In any event, it's NOT worth the 20 minute wait tourists endure just to go there. It's just a burger place.
12748176, RE: The shakes are better than the burgers
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 11:58 AM
>The burgers are aight. You can get comparable or better
>burgers for the same price anywhere. The shakes stand out to
>me. In any event, it's NOT worth the 20 minute wait tourists
>endure just to go there. It's just a burger place.


That sounds horrible, given that the prices are fairly high and from what I see, the burgers aren't organic or too healthy compared to other standard burger joints. I'm glad I never took the plunge and made the trek to the one in Downtown Brooklyn.
12748672, people go to Shake Shack for their health? that's news to me
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 04:20 PM
12748812, For the prices charged
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Mar-11-15 08:00 PM
I was expecting to see healthier burger options, like Bison or Ostrich burgers. They looks like average burgers found in normal burger spots.
12748179, i like em
Posted by lfresh, Wed Mar-11-15 11:59 AM
but yes just slightly above average

shakes are better
fries i think as well

in and out only messes up because they don't offer bacon

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12748661, the only thing to come close is Super Duper in SF and its better imo
Posted by double negative, Wed Mar-11-15 04:16 PM
http://www.superdupersf.com
12747976, Is Ranch 1 still around?
Posted by doublearon258, Wed Mar-11-15 10:13 AM
Most bland chicken fingers I've ever encountered in life!
12747977, a. ZOOOOMMMG
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 10:14 AM
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN????

and b. Yes, yes they are and they are horrible.
12747986, I'm remembered!
Posted by doublearon258, Wed Mar-11-15 10:18 AM
The last couple of companies I've worked for blocked sites like OKP. I would have to wait until I got home to post. Night time OKP just aint the same, so I've been lurkin like a mug, lol.
12748181, woooow
Posted by lfresh, Wed Mar-11-15 12:00 PM
*waves*
=)
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12748671, dude daytime okp aint the same either lol
Posted by Amritsar, Wed Mar-11-15 04:20 PM
12748011, I visited the test kitchen for the 3-story Chik Fil-A
Posted by doublearon258, Wed Mar-11-15 10:32 AM
Chik-Fil-A headquarters are located here in Atlanta and for work we went to visit them. We got a chance to see a mock-up of the NYC stores. The three story stores are BEAUTIFUL! They def put a lot of work and research into the design and customer usability of those stores.
12748068, I would have died to have been a fly on that wall.
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Wed Mar-11-15 10:56 AM
12748190, man
Posted by lfresh, Wed Mar-11-15 12:04 PM
we are going to tear those up
=(

the sheer volume of people

i need to get in early while its good
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12748169, at least its the west side
Posted by lfresh, Wed Mar-11-15 11:54 AM
a train ride away

i'm SO in there