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12680632, Office Ish: Am I a snitch??
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 12:38 PM
I sent the following email to my supervisor and her supervisor...was there some other course of action I should have taken?

"Good Morning,

I am covering for Ms. **** today. While I don’t have a problem being a team player and assisting where needed, I do take issue with work not being completed intentionally. I made Ms. **** aware of a PG Medicaid application that at the time was 50+ days old. When I came in this morning that same PG application was on my desk with a note asking for me to process the case. I also received a call from M**** J***** ADAPT#xxxxxxx wondering the status of her case; the customer stated that **** said she would call her for a phone interview back in November and she never received a call. The customer’s application has been on file since November 17th, the case was never pended and no interview was conducted.

As her back-up person, I receive a great deal of calls from her customers in regards to the untimely processing of their cases. I do what I can to prevent the customers from escalating to upper management or to the director, but this pattern of leaving work when we are already bogged down with our own caseloads is starting to become a problem.

I will not penalize the customer when they have done everything that they are supposed to do in a timely manner and I will process these two cases by close of business today.

Respectfully,

Jellybean"

12680633, Yeah. Stop.
Posted by jetblack, Fri Dec-19-14 12:39 PM
Or not.

Whatever. :)
12680635, you light snitched but that was only because homegirl left you to float in the
Posted by bonitaapplebaum71481, Fri Dec-19-14 12:41 PM
wind...

how she gonna give you back files like "handle this" LOL

maybe you shoulda brought up the issue with ya girl first and then took it to corporate if they pressed ya about it

that's me though


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12680636, That's outside of protocol...
Posted by CRichMonkey, Fri Dec-19-14 12:42 PM
1.) Verbal to the person

2.) Verbal to the supervisor

3.) Written to the person

4.) Written to the supervisor

You have to respect the chain of command or else you risk not having a paper trail to fall back on. You presented a problem, but you didn't have a record of it being an issue over time, just this once.

Not saying it's "bad" but you could have handled it better.



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12680639, unless we peoples i'm skipping to step 3.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-19-14 12:44 PM
1 & 2 don't help with a paper trail anyway.
12680646, Nah, you document 1 & 2...
Posted by CRichMonkey, Fri Dec-19-14 12:47 PM
So you can say, "On 12/18/14, I brought this up to him/her and then followed up with our supervisor on 1/5/15."

Protocol is what it is.


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12680669, why does an avg employee need to go through all that?
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-19-14 01:03 PM
thats more for a supervisor. thats way to much work for a regular dude that just wants to stop having to cover someone else's work.

Email them....then email a boss.
12680719, You always have to game out the worst case scenario...
Posted by CRichMonkey, Fri Dec-19-14 01:46 PM
So you have to ask yourself, "What happens if/when this gets to HR?"

Whenever a dispute between coworkers gets to HR, it's at the point where there's going to be some kind of disciplinary action taken. Now, just because you're the aggrieved party, that doesn't mean that you'll be in the right. When HR asks things like, "Did you communicate this issue to your coworker?" or "Did you try to resolve this on your own?", if your answer is no then you're taking the air out of your case. So you want to be buttoned up so that, if someone's gonna get some shit put in their file, it won't be you,


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12680766, step 3 handles that fine
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-19-14 02:06 PM
if you come in there with 12/18 i spoke to A
and then 12/25 i spoke to b about A
and then 12/27 i emailed A
and then 12/30 i emailed b about A

it looks like you was out to get A lol

A simple i emailed A on 12/18 and when that was unsuccessful i emailed b on 12/25 gets the job done too.
12680791, I tell people at the gig all the time...
Posted by CRichMonkey, Fri Dec-19-14 02:19 PM
When I come for you, you're gonna see it. I'm not gonna stab you in the back. I'm going to be plain about it.


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12680812, I'm talking about from HR's viewpoint.
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-19-14 02:30 PM
12680647, RE: That's outside of protocol...
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 12:47 PM
>1.) Verbal to the person
been there done that as she sits directly across from me

>2.) Verbal to the supervisor
supervisor is already in the loop

>3.) Written to the person
noted
>4.) Written to the supervisor


>You have to respect the chain of command or else you risk not
>having a paper trail to fall back on. You presented a
>problem, but you didn't have a record of it being an issue
>over time, just this once.
I document everything...so I have paper trail.
12680637, Yup, You On That Randy
Posted by RexLongfellow, Fri Dec-19-14 12:42 PM
12680638, had bcc's and read receipts all over it didn't you?
Posted by veritas, Fri Dec-19-14 12:43 PM
12680640, lol
Posted by Cenario, Fri Dec-19-14 12:44 PM
12680734, no I didn't lol
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 01:52 PM
but I was pissed off tho
12680643, i woulda talked to just my own supervisor first
Posted by sndesai1, Fri Dec-19-14 12:46 PM
also, this was a little much:

"I will not penalize the customer when they have done everything that they are supposed to do in a timely manner and I will process these two cases by close of business today. "




but i don't blame you...people who don't carry their weight are annoying to deal with
12680655, I threw that in there
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 12:51 PM
becasue the big thing here is timely processing and customer service...the email was more like a last straw type of thing.
12680661, u trying to get her fired before Xmas. Aint chew?
Posted by deejboram, Fri Dec-19-14 12:57 PM
>becasue the big thing here is timely processing and customer
>service...the email was more like a last straw type of thing.
12680720, sees it^^^
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-19-14 01:46 PM
why do women always take it a step further with other women at work?

"she's out to destroy me"

12680664, #### be wildin...
Posted by FLUIDJ, Fri Dec-19-14 12:59 PM

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12680665, yes. if you were a man, you could rightfully catch a fade for that lol
Posted by Ralo13, Fri Dec-19-14 01:00 PM
12680682, yep
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-19-14 01:13 PM
12680918, LMAOOOOO. But you ain't lying.
Posted by kingjerm78, Fri Dec-19-14 03:16 PM
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12680696, If y'all knew her lol
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 01:28 PM
y'all would not be caping for her!
12680704, nobody cares if she's a shitty co-worker though
Posted by veritas, Fri Dec-19-14 01:31 PM
it sounds like she's shitty to deal with.

she'd probably drive any of us up the wall and we'd all hate covering for her too. i'm sympathetic to having to deal with a co-worker like that.

buuuuuuut.

i wouldn't address it like this.

at all.
12680699, you offered unsolicited info
Posted by infin8, Fri Dec-19-14 01:30 PM
had someone said "WHO LEFT THIS CASE SITTING HERE FOR OVER 50 DAYS?" or some other inquiry been proffered you'd be straight

but yeah....

so whassup? You dont like this lady or wut? LOL
12680717, I don't dislike her
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 01:45 PM
but this is the same lady who filed a restraining order against one of my other co-workers because the other co-worker asked her to stop emailing her and to refer to the supervisor if she had any issues.

I have to take off work to go to court to testify as a witness over this shit because she filed criminal charges when the restraining order got overturned.
12680722, so you write emails like this all the time when people slack?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-19-14 01:47 PM
12680777, Yes, I have
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 02:11 PM
not too long ago as a matter of fact. Same shit...I have 800 people of my own to deal with...I'm not trying to deal with your 800 people plus mine because you don't feel like doing shit...fuck that!
12680787, damn...even your boy was like
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-19-14 02:17 PM
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12681091, I see you on the solidarity but..
Posted by infin8, Fri Dec-19-14 06:24 PM
you snitching her out is more likely to cause her to file a restraining order on YOU next instead of tightening up her behavior. (IMHO)

I'd be concerned that that email got out and she went out on 'stress', using that email as grounds.

be careful. You gotta work there.
12680773, "not being completed intentionally" -- you can't accuse her of that.
Posted by daryloneal, Fri Dec-19-14 02:09 PM
So from the beginning it makes you look very emotional and immature.

There's definitely a better way to have gone about that.

For starters, leave her supervisor out of it in the beginning. Just communicate your concern (without bold accusations) to your supervisor. If you're in good standing with your supervisor, he/she will give her supervisor a call to communicate the issue.

You may have damaged your own reputation more than you did hers.
12680790, I'm on great terms with both supervisors
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 02:19 PM
It's not an accusation...I can see her from my desk, I can hear her gossiping on the phone all day, shopping online and I see her get up from her desk every 15 minutes to smoke cigarettes. I see her not doing work and trying to pass the buck to our new team members...I see all of this


the customer can't receive her prenatal care because she doesn't want to process her case. the other customer hasn't been able to feed her family because she didn't want to process her case...how is that being immature?

12680792, You can't prove her intention. Stick to the facts, that's all.
Posted by daryloneal, Fri Dec-19-14 02:20 PM
Your perception of her performance is irrelevant and isn't earning you any points.
12680834, u kinda can though
Posted by MiracleRic, Fri Dec-19-14 02:40 PM
50+ days

and u put a personal note on it for her to do the shit...

nah...a pattern of shittiness is the same as intent yo
12680847, it isn't her job to evaluate intent nor performance.
Posted by daryloneal, Fri Dec-19-14 02:45 PM
Just state the facts.

Factual cause (i.e. this wasn't done in a timely manner).

Factual effect (i.e. it created more work and potential stress for me).

That's it.
12680882, I'm not doing it to be a brown-noser
Posted by JellyBean, Fri Dec-19-14 02:59 PM
my supervisor and I aren't friends...hell I don't particularly like her.

I do my job and so should she!
12680919, that's fine. Still doesn't change that your actions were outside of..
Posted by daryloneal, Fri Dec-19-14 03:17 PM
typical business protocol.

There's chain of command and business etiquette.

You didn't really follow either.

*shrug*
12680842, I would have spoken to her first...
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Dec-19-14 02:44 PM
12680849, she did...
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-19-14 02:46 PM
12680865, she made her aware of the application...
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Dec-19-14 02:52 PM
I meant...like...
"Look lady, what's going on with you?"

12681043, yes, after it was 50 days old, not when it was brand new...
Posted by StephBMore, Fri Dec-19-14 05:16 PM
so this reads to me that she heard about it or was made aware of it and goes to teh girl like "yo, this is 50 days old, can you handle it?"

girl "sure"

she never does and the ONE day that JellyBean is covering she puts a note on that EXACT application like "you do it."

that's some bullshit and I would have been pissed too. I would have done things differently though, I would have hit old girl with an email, cc'ing my boss

"hey xyz,

i'm working on the items you left for me to do and i noticed that the late application i asked you about in nov was on this stack for me to complete. i was unaware you weren't able to finish it and now the client whatever has been delayed. in the future, if you are unable to finish the application processing when i alert you to them, can you please let me know so the client won't be penalized? I'm sure after I alerted you it wasn't your intent to leave it uncompleted and i dont' mind helping you, but please let me know in advance."

there I state yes i told you about this before, yes i will do the work, in the future let me know if you won't do this shit...so next time I can go straight to your boss and say "this the shit i'm talking about."
12680857, got a feeling most okps empathize with ur lazy coworker because....
Posted by SeV, Fri Dec-19-14 02:48 PM
look at what most of us is doing all day..

sure alot of folk here been on the other side of an email like that lol



but im banned tho.
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12681044, people giving lazy ass ppl country,
Posted by StephBMore, Fri Dec-19-14 05:17 PM
why should she do the work she asked a coworker to do 2 months ago almost?
12681262, lol.
Posted by R A i n, Sat Dec-20-14 09:39 AM
12681081, You're a woman so you can get away with it...
Posted by Kira, Fri Dec-19-14 06:08 PM
...

Let a dude do this and WE GOT PROBLEMS. For the record, you are a law-abiding citizen that I would make highly ambiguous statements to about the world just in case you took it out of context and reported me.
12681096, http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30600000/The-Golden-Snitch-harry-potter-30628531-245-165.gif
Posted by FrankEinstein, Fri Dec-19-14 06:26 PM
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12681108, tell the truth it sounds as if your supervisor is slipping
Posted by debo40oz, Fri Dec-19-14 07:08 PM
She should be aware of a 50+ day late application. was there something complicated about the application? If not I'd just do it and my next review I would bring up that I'm doing 2 people's work. If there was something complicated I wouldn't process it unless my supervisor stated that it needed to be done today
12681213, 1st step is send email to co-worker, day or two later follow up on some
Posted by Playa_Politician, Sat Dec-20-14 01:12 AM
"not sure if you spotted this, but please <advise/review>"

day or two after that hit up user and supervisor saying "havent heard back from you on this. can someone please assist, or point me in the right direction?"

make it look like you willing to do it though it's not really on you. dry snitching at it finest. plus you done gave the person two chances in writing. that way they know you weren't sleeping on the task. i'd always rather have something in email than trying to remember a conversation i had with someone a few days prior.
12681250, who managing the process?how does an app get that old&it's still undone?
Posted by BigJazz, Sat Dec-20-14 08:40 AM
as a manager, i'm more mad at the people in charge than i am at your deadbeat coworker.

management should have her on some type of performance improvement plan and her work should be watched closely.

and who is managing your backlog? 50 days to process an application? fuck she applying for, the CIA? you got customers calling over and over cuz stuff not being done and it's YOU that has to take action? where the hell is management on this?

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