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12678342, People won't get Michelle Obama's 'racist' Target example.
Posted by lightworks, Wed Dec-17-14 01:05 PM
They talked about racist experiences to People mag and Michelle used the example of Target (even as First Lady all she saw was someone that could help her get something off of a shelf)...instantly when I read that I thought "Uh oh folks are gonna say they just asked her because she's tall and that's not a good example". Read some comments on the article and I was right!

What yall say?

http://www.people.com/article/barack-obama-michelle-obama-ferguson-racism-racial-profiling-interview
12678358, nah, a tall famous white woman would have been instantly recognized....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Dec-17-14 01:13 PM
we tend to be looked past, looked over, looked through more than looked AT.

we're a peripheral object to many many many MANY people.

I think it was a great example.

And i'm by no means an Obama Stan......
12678362, Everyone has made up their mind on them already.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Dec-17-14 01:14 PM
I get mistaken for sales people in stores 9 times out of 10 when I go into the mall.

Just to get my revenge I love to ask random white folks if they work in stores to see their confused reaction.


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12678369, lol
Posted by Cenario, Wed Dec-17-14 01:19 PM
Just to get my revenge I love to ask random white folks if they work in stores to see their confused reaction.
12678883, haha, I'm white and gonna start doing this with rich looking
Posted by J_Stew, Wed Dec-17-14 06:01 PM
middle aged and old white people
12678364, They never had those people to begin with
Posted by John Forte, Wed Dec-17-14 01:15 PM
12678366, who? who the fuck are they gonna lose 6 years in?
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Dec-17-14 01:17 PM
and who the hell asked the first lady to get something off the shelf?



12678375, Not "lose" like people won't like them. Lose like they won't get the example.
Posted by lightworks, Wed Dec-17-14 01:22 PM
I edited the title to more clearly reflect what I meant.
12679350, Yep... I agree with you. Michelle's example isn't a good one.
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-18-14 10:29 AM
Especially when I saw the photo of her in Target in sunglasses and a denim hat.

I get asked to pull shit off a high shelf by short women from time to time. If she is fine... I'll do it, if not.. I don't.

12678385, Context. You don't expect to see her there
Posted by John Forte, Wed Dec-17-14 01:28 PM
I once asked Luol Deng if he played basketball. I know who he is and what he looks like, but I didn't expect him to be at my man's cookout. He didn't stand out because said friend is a 6'7 African and his whole family is that tall,
12679252, You're friends with the Duany family?!
Posted by veritas, Thu Dec-18-14 09:07 AM
>I once asked Luol Deng if he played basketball. I know who he
>is and what he looks like, but I didn't expect him to be at my
>man's cookout. He didn't stand out because said friend is a
>6'7 African and his whole family is that tall,
12678371, I think we need to stop trying to convince non-whites
Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Dec-17-14 01:19 PM
that there is such a thing as prejudice. It has always been a waste of time. Those that care-- regardless of skin color see it and know it. Anyone else is equally invisible.
12678383, there are not many black ppl in this country.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Wed Dec-17-14 01:24 PM
many of us live in areas w/ sizable black populations, so it's easy to forget that
this country is mostly full of non-black folks.

well, there are more Latinos now i guess.

still.


saying "fuck potential allies that don't get it already" is a fool's game.
believe me, i get the appeal of saying "fuck you" in your mind
to ppl that don't get it.

but to get some actual change, we need broader support.
we need more ppl.

you think the gays could've made the headway they have w/o allies?
niggas need allies too.


>that there is such a thing as prejudice. It has always been a
>waste of time. Those that care-- regardless of skin color see
>it and know it. Anyone else is equally invisible.
12678806, Honest answer man and I know it's a downer but
Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Dec-17-14 05:11 PM
>but to get some actual change, we need broader support.
>we need more ppl.

What change? Change America? On an individual basis I think allies are definitely important in achieving some kind of success or normalcy in our daily lives as black people in America, but on a larger scale it's a wrap. If folks can watch a man die at the hands of police while posing no threat and have a coroner call it murder and not charge anyone then it's sewn up. It's chinatown-- game over man. Yeah every so often "justice" will throw us a bone, but "black people" as a whole-- we're in the wrong place. This country and it's system can not be retrofitted to provide anything close to social and economic equality, just the illusion of it.

The other day I read how 25,000 whites walked off the job at a factory during WWII because they didn't want to work next to black people. Can you imagine? Folks would have rather lost to Japan and Germany than be equal in LABOR. They would prefer the rape of Nanking happening in LA before they'd work alongside a black person. So if folks want to be that into themselves why not let them!?


>you think the gays could've made the headway they have w/o
>allies?
More or less yeah I do. It's way easier to be sympathetic to gays than to blacks because gays can be white too and can easily gain access to areas of influence and have for some time I would wager.

>niggas need allies too.
Our allies walk away or we get away from them. Quakers, Jews, Native Americans (some of whom recently disowned their black tribe members), and so on. Why? because it's a never ending battle for us and people just don't have that kind of stamina.

12678851, we can't all leave America.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Wed Dec-17-14 05:40 PM
to go where?
for what?

and why?


and besides, all it takes is the libertarians to catch on to the fact
that the 4th amendment has been ripped to shreds by the war on drugs
and boom-- it's no longer a race issue.

it's a cops are taking our freedom issue.


but i ain't gonna argue w/ you about it.
all i can say is i am externally MLK and internally Malcolm X.
i can't put it another way.

unless you are planning a revolution (where we are outmanned and outgunned)
or an exodus from America (to where? for what reason? with what funds?)

then yes, we need to build it from the ground up here in America.
chasing away allies is not the way to go about it.


in fact, it's almost a cop out to view it that way.
if a plan is doomed to fail, why bother?

nah.

that ain't the way.

do you though.
12678879, I guess we die apart cuz nobody is hanging with us
Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Dec-17-14 05:59 PM
That much is clear. Malcolm said it wouldn't be black vs white in the end, but have vs have not. That's probably the best we can hope for and after that happens and assuming we aren't fully exterminated, placed in camps, or deported (because they do things like that) then yeah whatever black folks are left can help build something better hopefully, but nothing short of collapse can bring forth that kind of change. It may sound cynical or pessimistic, but it's more the reality than expecting change to come through "peace" it just doesn't work like that.
12680356, Haven't you said fuck those who don't understand the gay struggle?
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Dec-19-14 06:58 AM
That you're tired of trying to convince folks that people are born gay or that it's ok
to make the choice?

Is that because you feel like that struggle is over?
Do you have different rules for a racial struggle?
Do you feel like this is a different kind of convincing?

What gives?


12679838, edit-- meant to say whites
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Dec-18-14 03:14 PM
12678374, someone gave my boy their car keys to park at valet once.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Dec-17-14 01:21 PM
he parked their car illegally on the street and told valet he found the keys on the floor.
12678376, Well if whoever gets offended at that example then the Obamas
Posted by vee-lover, Wed Dec-17-14 01:22 PM
have thousands of other racist examples to use to prove their point...
12679246, RE: People don't want to hear stories or lectures
Posted by bentagain, Thu Dec-18-14 09:03 AM
"It's another thing for my son to be mistaken for a robber and to be handcuffed, or worse, if he happens to be walking down the street and is dressed the way teenagers dress."

FUCKING DO SOMETHING!!!
12679256, Remember before Obama was elected there was a rumor about
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Thu Dec-18-14 09:11 AM
there being a rape out there showcasing Michelle's racism

That rumored lasted a week or so

I dont know about yall, but i was shook

I was like "Oh damn, it's over"

12679258, oh hell edit quickly. i know that's a typo but good lord
Posted by veritas, Thu Dec-18-14 09:12 AM
12679335, lol. you know asshannity an nem searching now for the whitey
Posted by poetx, Thu Dec-18-14 10:17 AM
r*pe tape.

homie just invented some new shit. faux news sending him coupons to buy melted gold as we speak.


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12679349, haha dammit
Posted by veritas, Thu Dec-18-14 10:29 AM
12680003, LOL, my bad
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Thu Dec-18-14 05:07 PM
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12679366, I thought it was kind of thin, whereas Obeezy's made more sense
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Dec-18-14 10:41 AM
Although I doubt anyone has asked him personally to park their car (at least not in a long time), it was clearer and made more sense.

I am not black but I am tall. I get asked if I work in a store all the time, and at odd times. I will be wearing a fucking hockey jersey and shorts and some lady is like "Do you work here? Will these shoes fit my son who is 13 years old?"

And I have to reach up and get shit for people all the time, in stores, on planes, etc, etc, etc.

Unless there was some context she didn't provide, I thought it was underwhelming and I'm a tepid supporter. Of course her opponents and the people who think of race as some oddball two-way street (e.g. "Why are there no protests when police are killed by criminals?" and other idiotic questions) would think even less of it than that.

I don't get why she wouldn't think this through a little more.
12679793, maybe she doesn't have any other examples...
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-18-14 03:01 PM
I can't see how she wouldn't but I also can't see how that Target story would come to mind when thinking of racism.

12679826, She gotta walk that line
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Dec-18-14 03:12 PM
can't go full racist experience. I'm sure she has at least one "being mistaken as a prostitute at a gala" story
12679810, Dude thought I was a valet at Sullivan's last night
Posted by deejboram, Thu Dec-18-14 03:06 PM
end of the night
i was going to shuttle the crew to Onyx in my hoopty
i pull my car around to front
im moving car seat and dry cleaning to trunk
then i go over by my boys who were standing at valet station waiting for his wife
white cat hits me with
"oh no, sorry i already got my car"
i was like THA FUCK!?!?!!?
i look like im valeting cars m'dude???
it's funny cause HE had on the valet uniform
black dockers and a white 3 button polo shirt

>Although I doubt anyone has asked him personally to park
>their car (at least not in a long time), it was clearer and
>made more sense.

12679878, I'm tall also, get asked at least every other time
Posted by EmDub, Thu Dec-18-14 03:31 PM
I am at the store to get something high up for people that can't reach it.

Usually a little old lady that is oblivious to the rest of the world.

12679892, Me too. But they dont suspect me of working there.
Posted by deejboram, Thu Dec-18-14 03:35 PM
I'm usually grocery shopping after work
And they will say "young man, you're really tall,, i dont mean to bother you but can you reach that loaf of bread for me back there please?"


old espanole had me counsel him on the difference between "No Pulp" and "Grovestyle" oj couple weeks back
hardest part was this shit was all in spanish!
im like damn papi
who the hell told you i speak spanish like that?
furthermore, how the hell do i explain to a person the difference between no pulp and a lotta pulp?

he ended up buying both types to try them out

seemed like a FOB cuban dissident
12680179, dude in LA mf'ers just spit that spanish at anyone
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Dec-18-14 08:17 PM
12680222, im still confused here
Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Thu Dec-18-14 09:11 PM
because it doesnt seem like shes saying she took that as racism. just as not being recognized


but i guess im not understanding correctly
12680327, I get it.
Posted by godleeluv, Fri Dec-19-14 02:43 AM
But I'm smart tho.
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