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4800, "greatest films" recommendations- Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Wed Feb-11-04 07:45 PM
alright, for those who do or do not know, i've taken it upon myself to compile a list of the 100 greatest films of all-time. because after all, what do studied critics and directors know that a teenage kid can't correct.
i've set a deadline for watching movies for the list at March 15. in between then and now, i'm gonna make a point to watch everything considered "great" or "classic" . . .and Celebrity Mole. so if you want to recommend a couple titles that you think it wise for me to see before the final version is decided upon, please suggest something now.
several things:
a)if i don't end up watching your movie, sorry, i probably couldn't get a copy without paying (i'm using the school library).
b)if i end up watching your movie and don't put it on my list, sorry, you have bad taste in films.
c)spare the joke, "dude, you gotta watch Dutch" posts.
d)i've seen most of the standard "classic" Citizen Kane-esque movies already.
e)thanks
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4801, It's impossible Posted by DoctorBombay, Wed Feb-11-04 08:01 PM
for me to know what you've seen and what you haven't seen so this is really an excercise in futility. For all I know you've seen them all, but here are a few of mine that aren't entirely obvious:
Roshomon The Third Man Rear Window Amarcord Spartacus Das Boot Doctor Zhivago Dead Man Matewan Wings of Desire
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4802, it's not futile Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Wed Feb-11-04 08:11 PM
>for me to know what you've seen and what you haven't seen so >this is really an excercise in futility. For all I know >you've seen them all, but here are a few of mine that aren't >entirely obvious:
still a recommendation, whether i've viewed them or not. could help someone else.
>Roshomon >The Third Man >Rear Window >Amarcord >Spartacus >Das Boot >Doctor Zhivago >Dead Man >Matewan >Wings of Desire
thanks.
i had not seen all of those.
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4803, You seen In a Lonely Place yet? Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Feb-11-04 08:28 PM
also going by your archived 'top 5' post
High and Low La Haine Ikiru
I know you've seen a lot since then so if you've seen em I'll try to think of some more
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4804, yeah, i had seen that. Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Wed Feb-11-04 08:32 PM
>also going by your archived 'top 5' post
only two of those i think stayed in my top ten.
>High and Low >La Haine >Ikiru > >I know you've seen a lot since then so if you've seen em >I'll try to think of some more
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4805, RE: You seen In a Lonely Place yet? Posted by theurge1214, Thu Feb-12-04 08:01 AM
Ikiru is on your list? Mine just came the other day and I haven't watched it yet. I haven't seen any other reviews on here so what did you think?
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4806, Ikiru- Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 10:09 AM
>Ikiru is on your list? Mine just came the other day and I >haven't watched it yet. I haven't seen any other reviews on >here so what did you think?
it was good but not great, so it disappointed me. however, the question was not posed to me, so carry on.
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4807, RE: Ikiru- Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 05:25 PM
>it was good but not great, so it disappointed me. however, >the question was not posed to me, so carry on.
other than it dragging a bit towards the end I think it's perfect. It really got to me. But hey it's your list kid
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4808, personally Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 05:22 PM
it's one of the most moving films I've ever seen.
But I guess it's not for everybody
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4809, RE: personally Posted by theurge1214, Thu Feb-12-04 06:56 PM
thanks, I can't wait to see it. I am supposed to wait to watch it with a friend but she is going out of town for the weekend and I'm sure it will look VERY tempting just sitting there. I watched the trailer on the first disc and it really had me excited to see it but I think I will have to wait for next week sometime to see it.
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4810, RE: "greatest films" recommendations- Posted by King_Friday, Wed Feb-11-04 09:05 PM
Well, I reckon I've given you a lot of recommendations for this list over the past few months or so.
But hey, it won't hurt to add a few more!
And maybe I can also remind you of the importance of some previous recommendations. Ahem.
Here are some movies you ought to consider because I think they're good and might deserve a place on some kind of a list but then again who knows?:
(Note: it's possible you've seen some of these, and it's also possible that you've told me you've seen some of these, but I forgot)
Metropolis, M, You Only Live Once, Fury, The Big Heat - all directed by Fritz Lang.
Merchant Of Four Seasons, Marriage Of Maria Braun - both directed by Rainer Werner Fassbinder
The Great Dictator - Charles Chaplin.
The Asphalt Jungle - John Houston.
Force Of Evil - Abraham Polonsky
Johnny Guitar, The Lusty Men - both directed by Nicholas Ray
Sullivan's Travels - Preston Sturges
The Roaring Twenties, White Heat - both directed by Raoul Walsh.
A Woman Under The Influence - John Cassavetes
The Gunfighter, Jesse James - both directed by Henry King
Hamlet - Laurence Olivier
This Gun For Hire - Frank Tuttle
La Strada - Federico Fellini
The Garden Of The Finzi-Continis - Vittorio De Sica
Frankenstein - James Whale
Last Year At Marienbad - Alain Resnais
That'll do for now. When I think of some more I'll post them up.
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4811, finally you help Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Wed Feb-11-04 09:22 PM
>Well, I reckon I've given you a lot of recommendations for >this list over the past few months or so.
yeah, how many times can you tell me to watch Home Alone? really now, you need to grow up and respect the medium.
>And maybe I can also remind you of the importance of some >previous recommendations. Ahem.
that's all down and i'm about to bury my head in laserdiscs.
>Metropolis, M, You Only Live Once, Fury, The Big Heat - all >directed by Fritz Lang. > >Merchant Of Four Seasons, Marriage Of Maria Braun - both >directed by Rainer Werner Fassbinder > >The Great Dictator - Charles Chaplin. > >The Asphalt Jungle - John Houston. > >Force Of Evil - Abraham Polonsky > >Johnny Guitar, The Lusty Men - both directed by Nicholas Ray > >Sullivan's Travels - Preston Sturges > >The Roaring Twenties, White Heat - both directed by Raoul >Walsh. > >A Woman Under The Influence - John Cassavetes > >The Gunfighter, Jesse James - both directed by Henry King > >Hamlet - Laurence Olivier > >This Gun For Hire - Frank Tuttle > >La Strada - Federico Fellini > >The Garden Of The Finzi-Continis - Vittorio De Sica > >Frankenstein - James Whale > >Last Year At Marienbad - Alain Resnais > >That'll do for now. When I think of some more I'll post >them up.
arlighty then. *pushes deadline back* yeah, i had see a couple, but now will see a couple more. thanks.
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4812, RE: A Woman Under the Influence Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 02:37 PM
>A Woman Under The Influence - John Cassavetes
I haven't seen many Cassavetes movies so when I saw this I was so impressed by the performances but disappointed in the movie (while I was watching). The thing is though that I have never stopped thinking about this movie ever since, and when I do, all I can think about is how great it is. Weird.
and my bad, I didn't notice you already mentioned White Heat. I should have known. >Last Year At Marienbad - Alain Resnais
I really don't think I can bring myself to watch another one of this guy's movies
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4813, RE: A Woman Under the Influence Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 07:16 PM
>>A Woman Under The Influence - John Cassavetes > >I haven't seen many Cassavetes movies so when I saw this I >was so impressed by the performances but disappointed in the >movie (while I was watching). The thing is though that I >have never stopped thinking about this movie ever since, and >when I do, all I can think about is how great it is. Weird.
I love this movie. There's so much to like about it. ***SPOILERS****
Like the scene where the whole family's at the dinner table and Gena Rowlands has just come back from the hospital. She asks her dad to "stand up for her" and he actually stands up! That's good movie!
This movie begs for a Criterion treatment. I got it on DVD but it's real old, you have to flip the disc over like a record halfway through. It's a drag.
Plus it's full screen, not letterboxed.
I did get to see it once letterboxed on IFC though, so I feel better now.
If you want to see more Cassavetes films that are somewhat similar in style to Woman Under The Influence, I would recommend "Opening Night" and "Minnie And Moskowitz". Both star Gena Rowlands too.
> >and my bad, I didn't notice you already mentioned White >Heat. I should have known.
That's okay. I almost didn't mention it myself cause I figured you would. Just so long as Little Ricky gets the point! lol.
> >>Last Year At Marienbad - Alain Resnais > >I really don't think I can bring myself to watch another one >of this guy's movies
This one's a little different than Hiroshima. It's weird too though. And intentionally confusing.
And surreal.
Try it out though.
It's good.
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4814, hey I agree Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 08:21 PM
>I love this movie. There's so much to like about it. >***SPOILERS**** > > >Like the scene where the whole family's at the dinner table >and Gena Rowlands has just come back from the hospital. She >asks her dad to "stand up for her" and he actually stands >up! That's good movie!
I guess I just wasn't accustomed to his style. Like I said when thinking about it I think it's great lol. I'd really like to see it again soon.
>If you want to see more Cassavetes films that are somewhat >similar in style to Woman Under The Influence, I would >recommend "Opening Night" and "Minnie And Moskowitz". Both >star Gena Rowlands too.
Cool I want to see more of his stuff. I've only seen Killing of a Chinese Bookie (which I liked but not that much)
>>>Last Year At Marienbad - Alain Resnais
>>I really don't think I can bring myself to watch another one >>of this guy's movies > >This one's a little different than Hiroshima. It's weird >too though. And intentionally confusing. > >And surreal. > >Try it out though. > >It's good.
Sounds like when my mom would try and convince me liver was just like steak.
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4815, Food and Cassavetes Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:40 PM
>I guess I just wasn't accustomed to his style.
Yeah, there's lots of sreaming and the camera's always moving.
Sometimes it looks like Cassavetes is hitting his cameraman in the head with a bat and wherever the camera points while the guy's stumbling to the ground, that's the shot you get.
>Cool I want to see more of his stuff. I've only seen Killing >of a Chinese Bookie (which I liked but not that much) >
I haven't seen that one yet. I want to. And of the two I just mentioned above, you should see Minnie And Moskowitz first, before Opening Night.
Have you seen anything he's acted in?
>>Try it out though. >> >>It's good. > >Sounds like when my mom would try and convince me liver was >just like steak.
One time when I was a little kid I was over at my grandmother's house. We ate what I thought was steak, but after we were done she says, "Guess what? You just ate a deer."
What?!?!? It was deer meat?
That's the type of thing that will scar you for life.
And if you're wondering . . . deer tastes like dead dreams. lol.
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4816, RE: Food and Cassavetes Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Feb-13-04 04:22 AM
>>Sometimes it looks like Cassavetes is hitting his cameraman >in the head with a bat and wherever the camera points while >the guy's stumbling to the ground, that's the shot you get.
I was referring more to its lack of an actual plot
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4817, RE: "greatest films" recommendations- Posted by benny, Wed Feb-11-04 09:38 PM
don't care much for the discussion that will follow your screening of these movies (y'all OKP movie geeks kill me with your elitism), buuuuuuuut anyway, here's a few: - L'Avventura - Yi Yi - Double Indemnity (classic Wilder noir, you've prolly seen it already) - Creature from the Black Lagoon (dope underwater scenes) - Cesar et Rosalie (Claude Sautet). Romy Schneider is beautiful n/m - Laissez Passer (Tavernier), a 2002 flick about moviemakers during the French occupation - Branded to Kill (Suzuki): eff a Tarantino - Kikujiro (Kitano): get into Kitano....now - The Long Goodbye: great Phil Marlowe adaptation - anything Ozu
You seem to know a good deal about movies, so sorry if you've already seen these
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4818, talk about elitism but look what you recommend Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Wed Feb-11-04 09:43 PM
>don't care much for the discussion that will follow your >screening of these movies (y'all OKP movie geeks kill me >with your elitism), buuuuuuuut anyway,
yeah anyway, that wasn't necessary.
here's a few: >- L'Avventura >- Yi Yi >- Double Indemnity (classic Wilder noir, you've prolly seen >it already) >- Creature from the Black Lagoon (dope underwater scenes) >- Cesar et Rosalie (Claude Sautet). Romy Schneider is >beautiful n/m >- Laissez Passer (Tavernier), a 2002 flick about moviemakers >during the French occupation >- Branded to Kill (Suzuki): eff a Tarantino >- Kikujiro (Kitano): get into Kitano....now >- The Long Goodbye: great Phil Marlowe adaptation >- anything Ozu > >You seem to know a good deal about movies, so sorry if >you've already seen these
no, thank you for the recommendations, i hadn't seen them all.
i was planning on hitting up Ozu next.
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4819, RE: talk about elitism but look what you recommend Posted by benny, Thu Feb-12-04 02:12 AM
>>don't care much for the discussion that will follow your >>screening of these movies (y'all OKP movie geeks kill me >>with your elitism), buuuuuuuut anyway, > >yeah anyway, that wasn't necessary.
hey, just my opinion. I didn't mean it as a knock on anyone, but it's just that when certain (read: arty) movies are discussed, it tends to fall in an elitist discussion, where anything Hollywood and recent sucks. I recommended those flicks because I enjoyed them, and you seem like you've seen a lot of movies (judging from your posts), but my fave movies are actually ET and Swingers, not really art-house fare, and I even saw 2 Fast 2 Furious in theater and kinda enjoyed it. Elitism is only enjoying certain types of movies on the pretense that they are more intellectual.
>here's a few: >>- L'Avventura >>- Yi Yi >>- Double Indemnity (classic Wilder noir, you've prolly seen >>it already) >>- Creature from the Black Lagoon (dope underwater scenes) >>- Cesar et Rosalie (Claude Sautet). Romy Schneider is >>beautiful n/m >>- Laissez Passer (Tavernier), a 2002 flick about moviemakers >>during the French occupation >>- Branded to Kill (Suzuki): eff a Tarantino >>- Kikujiro (Kitano): get into Kitano....now >>- The Long Goodbye: great Phil Marlowe adaptation >>- anything Ozu >> >>You seem to know a good deal about movies, so sorry if >>you've already seen these > >no, thank you for the recommendations, i hadn't seen them >all.
no problem, hope you like 'em
> >i was planning on hitting up Ozu next.
please do so, asap
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4820, i disagree with this: Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Thu Feb-12-04 03:28 AM
>Elitism is only enjoying certain types of movies on the >pretense that they are more intellectual.
there's trash cinema elitists, B-movie elitists, sci-fi elitists... it's not based on the intellectual quality of the movies at all.
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4821, don't forget Posted by REDeye, Thu Feb-12-04 05:19 PM
the anti-elitist elitist. Those cats who think they are somehow more well-adjusted human beings because they can appreciate modern commercial films for the crap they are.
Otherwise known as the "its just entertainment" elitists.
RED Ora et labora
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4822, The Bronx Fort Apache Posted by The Damaja, Thu Feb-12-04 03:51 AM
East of Eden Smoke (seen this? it's like the good/mature Pulp Fiction)
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4823, Smoke? Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Thu Feb-12-04 04:00 AM
uh... okay.
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4824, elitist!!! elitist!!! Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 04:31 AM
i've never seen Smoke. I just felt like saying that
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4825, RE: elitist!!! elitist!!! Posted by jigga, Thu Feb-12-04 09:58 AM
>i've never seen Smoke. I just felt like saying that
Shame on you! Both Smoke & Blue in the Face are pretty good flicks. Lots of improv. I wouldnt put either 1 of them in the greatest films category tho.
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4826, RE: The Bronx Fort Apache Posted by loveluv, Thu Feb-12-04 04:58 AM
what is the sequel to smoke i can't ever remember the name,but it has a lot of the same actors and it is all improvised? i can't remember for the world of me. even has live interviews with people about brooklyn. and madonna is in it and rupaul i believe.
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4827, Blue In the Face Posted by DoctorBombay, Thu Feb-12-04 06:51 AM
.
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4828, Oh, and Get Carter Posted by The Damaja, Thu Feb-12-04 09:50 AM
some people say it's (much, much) better than the Godfather!
(okay, well, British people)
though you might want to limit this to American films to avoid the angry foreign hordes
and also Orson Welles's "The Trial." Mark this: BETTER camera work than both Touch of Evil and Citizen Kane.
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4829, The Trial Posted by DoctorBombay, Thu Feb-12-04 09:58 AM
Would that be a film based on the Kafka novel?
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4830, aye Posted by The Damaja, Thu Feb-12-04 10:31 AM
must get round to reading that
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4831, i had to planned to see The Trial tomorrow Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 10:11 AM
>though you might want to limit this to American films to >avoid the angry foreign hordes
foreign film influence will be felt
>and also Orson Welles's "The Trial." Mark this: BETTER >camera work than both Touch of Evil and Citizen Kane.
had planned on getting it.
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4832, Drunken Master II (1994) Posted by Mr Mech, Thu Feb-12-04 10:45 AM
Arguably the best martial arts film yet.
Mech
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4833, Odd Couple (1979) Posted by Mr Mech, Thu Feb-12-04 10:59 AM
An often over looked Sammo Hung classic with a lot of heart and its fair share of blood.
Mech
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4834, Rober Egbert's list Posted by noahbird, Thu Feb-12-04 11:15 AM
I've recently realized how many classic or just plain great movies I've never seen and have set about to watch many of them. Here's Roger Egbert's list of his 100 greatest movies. Can't say I disagree or agree either way but I'm finding it a great starting point.
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/greatmovies/
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4835, yup, that site was bookmarked. Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 11:22 AM
>I've recently realized how many classic or just plain great >movies I've never seen and have set about to watch many of >them. Here's Roger Egbert's list of his 100 greatest >movies. Can't say I disagree or agree either way but I'm >finding it a great starting point. > >http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/greatmovies/
thanks for the reminder.
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4836, great site Posted by johnny_domino, Thu Feb-12-04 01:26 PM
thanks
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4837, yeah Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 02:07 PM
usually after I see a movie that I think is great I have a habit of checking to see if they're on that list, then I'll read the review. Around 3 out of 4 times it's on there.
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4838, more movies Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 01:15 PM
Only Angels Have Wings - Howard Hawks
Blood Of A Poet - Jean Cocteau
Stromboli - Roberto Rossellini
Paths Of Glory - Stanley Kubrick
The Best Years Of Our Lives, Wuthering Heights - both directed by William Wyler
The Awful Truth - Leo McCarey
The Bad And The Beautiful - Vincente Minnelli
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers - Don Siegel
Laura, Anatomy Of A Murder - both directed by Otto Preminger
Mildred Pierce - Michael Curtiz
The Public Enemy - William Wellman
Sahara - Zoltan Korda
Atlantic City - Louis Malle
Juliet Of The Spirits - Federico Fellini
Okay, that's it for now (again).
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4839, darn you! Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 01:34 PM
>Only Angels Have Wings - Howard Hawks > >Blood Of A Poet - Jean Cocteau > >Stromboli - Roberto Rossellini > >Paths Of Glory - Stanley Kubrick > >The Best Years Of Our Lives, Wuthering Heights - both >directed by William Wyler > >The Awful Truth - Leo McCarey > >The Bad And The Beautiful - Vincente Minnelli > >Invasion Of The Body Snatchers - Don Siegel > >Laura, Anatomy Of A Murder - both directed by Otto Preminger > >Mildred Pierce - Michael Curtiz > >The Public Enemy - William Wellman > >Sahara - Zoltan Korda > >Atlantic City - Louis Malle > >Juliet Of The Spirits - Federico Fellini > >Okay, that's it for now (again).
maybe i should change deadline date to March 16, 2005.
if you could be so kind, from the ones in this post, could you narrow down the possible List worthy ones to about 10? and should these take precedent over those you've suggested before (Le Mystère Picasso and such)?
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4840, RE: darn you! Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 07:02 PM
>if you could be so kind, from the ones in this post, could >you narrow down the possible List worthy ones to about 10?
Okay, I'll try. But remember not every film I recommended is necessarily "top 10" material. But if I had to pick 10 especially noteworthy/listworthy films from my replies in this post I would go with:
Metropolis M You Only Live Once Fury The Big Heat
all by Fritz Lang. As I've mentioned before, Fritz Lang is one of my absolute favorite directors and these represent what I think are some of his best works. You shouldn't complete your list without looking into at least some of these. These are "top 10" material in my book.
After that, the best of what I mentioned here might include:
Mildred Pierce - by Michael Curtiz (who is most famous for directing Casablanca). It's got Joan Crawford in a great performance, a strong and dark visual atmosphere and an insightful social message to go with it. Michael Curtiz was a great talent. This film ranks high on any list.
Stromboli - by Roberto Rossellini. This film features what I personally think of as Ingrid Bergman's very best performance. That's reason enough for being listworthy. But it's got plenty more to be proud of too.
Force Of Evil - by Abraham Polonsky. Polonsky was a brilliant screenwrtier and was about to become a brilliant director. Shortly after this film, he was blacklisted for being a socialist. It ruined his career. This is one of his few films, and one of the best of its time. It's about the mob and the numbers racket, but it's actually Polonsky's giant metaphor (and harsh criticism) of the capitalist system. Stars John Garfield (you can't beat that).
Blood Of A Poet - by Jean Cocteau. This is a silent surrealist masterpiece by the great poet and filmmaker. It's kind of hard to put into words, but think of it as an attempt at documenting the working mind of a poet. It's wild.
since I'm about to hit number 10, I'll pick an underrated one (because you already know to look at Fellini films and Nicholas Ray films and Howard Hawks).
The Gunfighter - directed by Henry King. King was a great talent. This is my favorite of his films, and it stars Gregory Peck in one of his best performances. If someone asks you why Gregory Peck was a great actor, tell them to see this movie. It's about a gunfighter trying to give up the outlaw life, but his reputation follows him everywhere and no one seems willing to let him change or be anything except for what he's always been. Strong acting, a very strong social-political message, and brilliant photography and direction that's never flashy but always precise. . . it serves the story perfectly. See this film.
That should do it I guess. But don't overlook the other ones either.
>and should these take precedent over those you've suggested >before (Le Mystère Picasso and such)?
No. See those first. . . the Fassbinder films, Tarkovsky's The Mirror, all that.
But I would put the Fritz Lang films on a high priority if I were you.
So there.
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4841, okay Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 07:28 PM
>Metropolis >M >The Big Heat
seen em
>You Only Live Once >Fury
not available
>Mildred Pierce - by Michael Curtiz (who is most famous for >directing Casablanca). It's got Joan Crawford in a great >performance, a strong and dark visual atmosphere and an >insightful social message to go with it. Michael Curtiz was >a great talent. This film ranks high on any list.
seen it
>Stromboli - by Roberto Rossellini. This film features what >I personally think of as Ingrid Bergman's very best >performance. That's reason enough for being listworthy. >But it's got plenty more to be proud of too.
not available
>Force Of Evil - by Abraham Polonsky. Polonsky was a >brilliant screenwrtier and was about to become a brilliant >director. Shortly after this film, he was blacklisted for >being a socialist. It ruined his career. This is one of >his few films, and one of the best of its time. It's about >the mob and the numbers racket, but it's actually Polonsky's >giant metaphor (and harsh criticism) of the capitalist >system. Stars John Garfield (you can't beat that).
available
>Blood Of A Poet - by Jean Cocteau. This is a silent >surrealist masterpiece by the great poet and filmmaker. >It's kind of hard to put into words, but think of it as an >attempt at documenting the working mind of a poet. It's >wild.
not available
>The Gunfighter - directed by Henry King. King was a great >talent. This is my favorite of his films, and it stars >Gregory Peck in one of his best performances. If someone >asks you why Gregory Peck was a great actor, tell them to >see this movie. It's about a gunfighter trying to give up >the outlaw life, but his reputation follows him everywhere >and no one seems willing to let him change or be anything >except for what he's always been. Strong acting, a very >strong social-political message, and brilliant photography >and direction that's never flashy but always precise. . . it >serves the story perfectly. See this film.
sounds good, but not available
>That should do it I guess. But don't overlook the other >ones either.
so i have a batch of other films culled from this post to hit tomorrow. then Ozu. then i'll hit up the ones available from the KF file here.
>>and should these take precedent over those you've suggested >>before (Le Mystère Picasso and such)? > >No. See those first. . . the Fassbinder films, Tarkovsky's >The Mirror, all that.
i'm upset Mother Kuster isn't at my ready. Mirror will be seen within the week.
>So there.
thank you kindly, comrade.
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4842, cosign on these Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 02:02 PM
>The Best Years Of Our Lives> >The Bad And The Beautiful - Vincente Minnelli >Laura, Anatomy Of A Murder - both directed by Otto Preminger >The Public Enemy - William Wellman
and I really like Paths of Glory but Im just not sure if it's "list worthy"
the others I haven't seen. I have Invasion of the Body Snatchers at home though. Just haven't watched it yet
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4843, Paths of Glory Posted by DoctorBombay, Thu Feb-12-04 02:22 PM
For my money the best war film ever made. I'm no film scholar but that film had quite an impact on me.
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4844, i have seen it Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 02:24 PM
>For my money the best war film ever made. I'm no film >scholar but that film had quite an impact on me.
not List worthy in my estimation, but just an all around good movie.
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4845, thing about your list Posted by DoctorBombay, Thu Feb-12-04 02:33 PM
if you were to take everyone's top 100 reccomendations and put them into a pool there would probably be about 4000 in there. To take these and somehow figure out what the top 100 is so subjective and impossibily arduous. It's a fun game to play but in the end any kind of definitive list of "Greatest . . . . of all time" omits so many amazing works. Anyway, enjoy the films, I respect your passion for the art.
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4846, of course Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 02:38 PM
>if you were to take everyone's top 100 reccomendations and >put them into a pool there would probably be about 4000 in >there. To take these and somehow figure out what the top >100 is so subjective and impossibily arduous. It's a fun >game to play but in the end any kind of definitive list of >"Greatest . . . . of all time" omits so many amazing works. >Anyway, enjoy the films, I respect your passion for the art.
every pool of people who've done such a list have been from a specified field. imdb.com wouldn't necessarily agree with Sight & Sound readers. Roger Ebert wouldn't necessarily see eye-to-eye with David Walsh. we all have our biases, special interests, needs, quirks, pet peeves, and such. in the end, in the disclaimer that shall precede the list, i will let it be known, although i may call it "the 100 greatest films of all-time," it still is only my opinion.
to repeat, " because after all, what do studied critics and directors know that a teenage kid can't correct."
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4847, right, right Posted by DoctorBombay, Thu Feb-12-04 02:48 PM
yeah I agree. I love looking at diverse listings just to get a feel for how different films are received. I'd never attempt to undertake the task myself though, too much of a headache. So when you post this list we'll all be ready to bitch about why our favorites aren't on it and argue the merits of your selections. It shall be fun.
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4848, RE: cosign on these Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 07:25 PM
>and I really like Paths of Glory but Im just not sure if >it's "list worthy"
Maybe not. . . or maybe SO!
> >the others I haven't seen. I have Invasion of the Body >Snatchers at home though. Just haven't watched it yet
Well if you don't think Paths Of Glory is listworthy, you sure as hell won't think Body Snatchers is. lol.
It's a b-level sci-fi, horror movie.
But it's so much more.
Can a b-movie get a spot on the top 100 of all time list?
I don't see why not.
And talk about a "social-political" message! That's all Body Snatchers is.
But I'll stop now so as not to ruin it for you.
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4849, Invasion of the Body Snatchers was purchased recently Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 07:30 PM
>Well if you don't think Paths Of Glory is listworthy, you >sure as hell won't think Body Snatchers is. lol. > >It's a b-level sci-fi, horror movie. > >But it's so much more. > >Can a b-movie get a spot on the top 100 of all time list? > >I don't see why not.
priority viewing?
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4850, RE: Invasion of the Body Snatchers was purchased recent Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 07:36 PM
>priority viewing?
No, not priority. I like it, but it's got nothing on many of the other films already recommended.
It's all up to whether or not you can see past its B movie characteristics and into the chewey social commentary center.
May not be listworthy to you.
Then again, it may be.
Either way, it's good.
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4851, Paths of Glory is trash Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 07:36 PM
agree with everything else though. Never imagined you would like a Don Siegel movie though.
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4852, RE: Paths of Glory is trash Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 07:42 PM
>agree with everything else though. Never imagined you would >like a Don Siegel movie though.
Don Siegel is okay by me.
I don't know most of his work though.
As for Paths Of Glory, I like it. You know I'm not a giant Kubrick fan to begin with. But to me, this is one of his more important films.
You really don't like it huh?
Oh by the way, I ordered a copy of Heartworn Highways. It should be here in a couple days. I'll post a review of what I think.
Country music rocks!!!!!!!
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4853, its boring! Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 07:46 PM
and it just didn't add up to much in the end for me. Siegel gets pretty right wing at times (not to the point of becoming a bigot or anything), but then so did John Ford.
And I'm infuriated at Amazon.ca for changing heartworn highways from "ships in 24 hours" to "ships within 3 to 5 weeks". Bastards!
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4854, boring? Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 07:48 PM
don't even know what to say about that. I didn't find it the least bit boring. Very solid anti war film IMO
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4855, White Heat Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 02:03 PM
since Friday mentioned Public Enemy. if you haven't seen it yet SEE IT!
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4856, hell yeah Posted by johnny_domino, Thu Feb-12-04 02:47 PM
Cagney was awesome in that. He was Joe Pesci before Joe Pesci was born.
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4857, uh oh Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 02:48 PM
>Cagney was awesome in that. He was Joe Pesci before Joe >Pesci was born.
you just said a dirty word. time to edit before they catch you.
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4858, 'they' Posted by johnny_domino, Fri Feb-13-04 03:43 AM
King Friday is a collective now?
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4859, king_friday in 3...2... Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 02:51 PM
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4860, lol Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 06:34 PM
Yeah.
I hate Joe Pesci.
A lot.
James Cagney is in my top 10 actors of all time list (were such a list actually to exist).
Pesci. . . I don't even know what to say about Pesci.
Only that I've never enjoyed a single performance he's given in any film ever.
He makes my skin crawl.
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4861, he gave an apt performance in Home Alone Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 06:35 PM
but good movies tend to bring that out in an actor.
>Pesci. . . I don't even know what to say about Pesci.
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4862, booooooooooooooooooooooo! Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 06:42 PM
>Only that I've never enjoyed a single performance he's given >in any film ever.
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4863, hes supposed to Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 06:52 PM
he's a psycopath 99% of the time.
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4864, YOU MUST SEE BREATHLESS Posted by LOLA34, Thu Feb-12-04 04:55 PM
One of the most influencial films ever.
others you should check out are:
THe Searchers
L' Avventura (You must have patience with this one)
The Bicycle Thief
Lady From Shangai
The Big Heat
Casablanca
Psycho
Le Mepris (Contempt)
Rome Open City
Seven Samurias
Godfather
Weekend (another Godard film that I find funny but has a powerful message behind it)
Manhattan
Vertigo
Some Like it Hot
400 Blows
Uh that's all I can think of right now but I should be able to come up with more.
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4865, Breathless is on The List Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 04:58 PM
>THe Searchers > >L' Avventura (You must have patience with this one) > >The Bicycle Thief > >Lady From Shangai > >The Big Heat > >Casablanca > >Psycho > >Le Mepris (Contempt) > >Rome Open City > >Seven Samurias > >Godfather > >Weekend (another Godard film that I find funny but has a >powerful message behind it) > >Manhattan > >Vertigo > >Some Like it Hot > >400 Blows > >Uh that's all I can think of right now but I should be able >to come up with more.
about 80% of those (might be) too
you just named my nu-well, nevermind
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4866, . Posted by Colonel Sanders, Thu Feb-12-04 05:00 PM
never mind.
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4867, BOOOOOOOOO for edits Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 05:18 PM
>never mind.
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4868, RE: Breathless is on The List Posted by LOLA34, Thu Feb-12-04 05:16 PM
Ok I didn't read this list over too carefully but I only saw I think three movies that I double posted, or are you talking abuot that Ebert list because I haven't looked at it yet.
I remembered some more though:
High Noon (I just like the fact that it's a real time movie)
Bonnie and Clyde
Out of the Past
Sunset Boulevard (I like a lot of noir stuff)
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4869, THE LIST=MY list of the 100 greatest films of all-time. Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 05:18 PM
the one i'm making.
Breathless is already down on it, i'm just saying i agree.
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4870, one Posted by natural, Thu Feb-12-04 06:41 PM
Taste of Cherry - Abbas Kiarostami
"No one is so stupid as to directly imitate a film and directly copy someone else's success. This tells everyone that you have no creative ability, that you're an idiot. Even if you succeed, you're still an idiot." - Zhang Yimou
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4871, yes, sir Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 07:29 PM
>Taste of Cherry - Abbas Kiarostami
available and willing, i shall.
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4872, ugh Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 07:34 PM
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4873, i second that Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 07:38 PM
.
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4874, no good? Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 07:39 PM
KF recommended it too once.
it's at my school, so that's why i put a star next to it.
would the defense like to say something?
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4875, I'm still mad at king_friday for that one Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 07:47 PM
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4876, Kiarostami forever! Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 07:55 PM
Taste Of Cherry is awesome.
That's all there is to it.
Maybe you would have liked it if Joe Pesci was in it or something.
I think it's incredible.
I also think his film Close Up and his film The Wind Will Carry Us are incredible.
Kiarostami is one of the best out there today.
Without a doubt.
You can have Scorsese and Gangs Of New York.
I'll take the axis of evil. Thank you very much.
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4877, King_Friday™ - I dream in subtitles Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 08:05 PM
please add this to your sig.
that line of yours is too classic to just go to waste
and yes If Joe Pesci would have got in that truck I would have enjoyed that movie immensely
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4878, RE: King_Friday™ - I dream in subtitles Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:09 PM
>please add this to your sig. >
I can't quote myself in my own sig.
That's not proper.
>and yes If Joe Pesci would have got in that truck I would >have enjoyed that movie immensely
Why would Joe Pesci be in Iran though? I mean how far DO you have to go to hide a body these days?
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4879, RE: King_Friday™ - I dream in subtitles Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 08:13 PM
>That's not proper.
*sigh* you Commies are no fun
>Why would Joe Pesci be in Iran though? I mean how far DO >you have to go to hide a body these days?
SPOILER (sort of)
Well if he was there the movie would have had a real ending
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4880, RE: King_Friday™ - I dream in subtitles Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
>*sigh* you Commies are no fun >
We are too! We have lots of fun.
We have great parties.
We play Pin The Tail On The Bourgeois
Spin The Sickle
Everything.
We suck at Monopoly though.
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4881, in Home Alone 2, Pesci was in NY. thats far away,right? Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 08:13 PM
>>and yes If Joe Pesci would have got in that truck I would >>have enjoyed that movie immensely > >Why would Joe Pesci be in Iran though? I mean how far DO >you have to go to hide a body these days?
i bet it would have been better had John Hughes of Kieran Culkin been involved. i mean, these are fact, can't front on facts.
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4882, far away from where? Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 08:15 PM
he's always in New York (except Casino)
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4883, lethal weapon Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 08:18 PM
L.A.
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4884, far from wherever, y'know. Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 08:19 PM
>he's always in New York (except Casino)
Home Alone (the first one) he was in Chicago. and Gone Fishin was about Florida, i think. 8 Heads in a Duffel Bag was set in the straigh-to-video aisle, saved costs that way.
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4885, wait a minute Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:19 PM
>> >i bet it would have been better had John Hughes of Kieran >Culkin been involved. i mean, these are fact, can't front >on facts.
You haven't even seen Taste Of Cherry have you?
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4886, that's why i said i was willing to see it. Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 08:20 PM
>>> >>i bet it would have been better had John Hughes of Kieran >>Culkin been involved. i mean, these are fact, can't front >>on facts. > >You haven't even seen Taste Of Cherry have you?
no, i haven't, but what film wouldn't be improved with the addition of those two guys?
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4887, oh. Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:28 PM
>no, i haven't, but what film wouldn't be improved with the >addition of those two guys?
Well don't listen to Doc and Mynoriti then.
They are the devil.
Taste of Cherry is an excellent movie.
And what movie wouldn't be improved with the addition of those two guys?
"Next Friday".
Because it's already perfect.
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4888, John Witherspoon & the Culkin Bros. have good chemistry Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 08:31 PM
>And what movie wouldn't be improved with the addition of >those two guys? > >"Next Friday". > >Because it's already perfect.
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4889, Hell is where it's at Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Feb-12-04 08:32 PM
>Well don't listen to Doc and Mynoriti then. > >They are the devil.
Hell is where you can watch a tripple feature of Goodfellas, Taxi Driver and Raging Bull.
In heaven you have to watch Cries and Whispers on a 13 inch TV with foil paper on the antenna
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4890, lol Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:46 PM
>Hell is where you can watch a tripple feature of Goodfellas, >Taxi Driver and Raging Bull. > >In heaven you have to watch Cries and Whispers on a 13 inch >TV with foil paper on the antenna
That's not true. One time I had a near death experience and I went up to heaven and they had big TVs and all the Criterion titles and all the women looked like Bibi Andersson and Catherine Bell.
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4891, you watch JAG? Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 08:49 PM
>That's not true. One time I had a near death experience and >I went up to heaven and they had big TVs and all the >Criterion titles and all the women looked like Bibi >Andersson and Catherine Bell.
*downgrades King_Friday's opinion by 200 points*
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4892, You watch Home Alone! Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 08:59 PM
>>That's not true. One time I had a near death experience and >>I went up to heaven and they had big TVs and all the >>Criterion titles and all the women looked like Bibi >>Andersson and Catherine Bell. > >*downgrades King_Friday's opinion by 200 points*
No, Ricky I don't like JAG. But I *do* like Catherine Bell.
Besides, I heard you watch Walker Texas Ranger and try to do Karate chops in your kitchen.
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4893, RE: lol Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Feb-13-04 04:39 AM
>That's not true. One time I had a near death experience and >I went up to heaven and they had big TVs and all the >Criterion titles
What was playing? Armageddon?
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4894, two lane blacktop Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 06:41 PM
.
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4895, i thought that was a Driver's Ed movie at first Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Thu Feb-12-04 06:57 PM
but i looked it up, seems interesting. i probably won't get a chance to watch it soon, but i made a definite mental note.
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4896, drivers ed for existentialists! Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 07:09 PM
and james taylor fans and beach boys fans and people who know how fuckin great Warren Oates was.
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4897, The Duelists Posted by DrNO, Thu Feb-12-04 08:21 PM
maybe not classic but i recommend it anyways. Based on a Conrad novel that people argue over the meaning of. Ridley Scotts first film. Keith Carradine, Harvey Keitel.
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4898, this was inevitable. Posted by dgonsh, Thu Feb-12-04 09:15 PM
have fun.
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4899, What about Night and Fog? Posted by LOLA34, Thu Feb-12-04 09:25 PM
Since you guys have mentioned Resnais I figure you've seen Night and Fog. How did you guys ract to this movie when you first saw it? By the time it got to the mountains of women's hair I wasn't sure if I could take anymore, at least it's only a half hour.
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4900, I love it Posted by King_Friday, Thu Feb-12-04 09:32 PM
>Since you guys have mentioned Resnais I figure you've seen >Night and Fog. How did you guys ract to this movie when you >first saw it? By the time it got to the mountains of women's >hair I wasn't sure if I could take anymore, at least it's >only a half hour.
As a film it's great. But you're right, parts of it are hard to watch. Like you said, the part with the women's hair was especially gruesome.
It's a rough one to take. But it should be seen far and wide.
I liked very much the ending. The narrator's last lines really shift a lot of responsibility onto the viewing audience to protect the future.
Definitely an important film.
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4901, RE: "greatest films" recommendations- Posted by CloserToYou, Thu Feb-12-04 11:51 PM
couple of films i feel are pretty damn classic (or will be)...
requiem for a dream (modern classic) in the mood for love (international classic, classic love story) pulp fiction (modern classic) lost in translation (classic love story) eyes wide shut (people shit on kubrick for this, but fuck 'em) irreversible (devastating, completely unique, compelling) la dolce vita (the last scene is incredible) battle royale (see it for the controversy)
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4902, you've probably seen a bunch of these, if not all Posted by johnny_domino, Fri Feb-13-04 03:51 AM
but if there are any of these that you haven't seen, you should remedy that, post-haste
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
The Searchers
Shadows
Bonnie and Clyde
Chinatown
Sunset Boulevard
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4903, Imitation of Life (1959 version) Posted by FuriousFreddy, Fri Feb-13-04 04:45 AM
Fantasia Pinocchio Sleeping Beauty
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4904, ok here's 10 Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Feb-13-04 05:05 AM
I'm trying to think of movies I've never heard you talk about so..
Five Easy Pieces
The Last Picture Show
The Apu Trilogy (ok thats 3 but time well spent)
The Last Detail
All About Eve
Paper Moon
The Hustler
M
Annie Hall (yeah you've likely seen it but since I just saw it recently I had to include it…and Manhattan too)
Cool Hand Luke
Ok I guess that's 14. whatever
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4905, damn straight Posted by DrNO, Fri Feb-13-04 05:22 AM
I've seen Paper Moon about 6 times. Great one.
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4906, THANK YOU to everyone* Posted by ricky_BUTLER, Fri Feb-13-04 12:38 PM
i now have another list, this time of "films to see." it's 19 titles long, plus some stuff i'm scheduled to watch in film class.
thank you for your recommendations, here and in prior times.
deadline:march 16th list finalized and posted:march 18th (hopefully)
me and the VCR are gonna get really friendly now.
EDIT*-it's 22 titles, not just 19. don't want y'all to think i'm slacking.
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