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110911, Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010)
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Tue Mar-09-10 10:17 PM
Is anyone as excited about Kick-Ass as I am?

I think this flick will be one of the best movie adaptations of a comic. The action looks great, it looks funny, the cast looks good and out of all the trailers, Hit Girl has the best one. I'm seeing this opening night!!

http://www.kickass-themovie.com/
110912, comic kinda sucked...
Posted by kevlar skully, Tue Mar-09-10 10:40 PM
though I'm admittedly tired of Millar's "voice"

flick looks like a faithful adaption though and'll prolly be a good summer popcorn flick


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110913, well I couldn't disagree more
Posted by celery77, Tue Mar-09-10 10:49 PM
comic wasn't a game changer or something like that, but as far as original characters, original story, and just pure fun, it delivered on ALL that. did Millar write it to make a movie? don't know, don't care, alls I know is that if they do even a halfway decent job of bringing the book to screen, it should be pretty damn fun.
110914, from the trailers, the Hit Girl/Big Daddy stuff alone makes it worth the ticket
Posted by magilla vanilla, Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 PM
That's gonna be one hell of a fun flick. And I normally hate on Cage, too.
110915, i cant wait for it to come out
Posted by bleekgilliam_420, Tue Mar-09-10 11:16 PM
i didnt read the comic and im up in the air if im going to.
from the small bit that i read, nic cage seems kinda perfect for this role tho.
110916, I just feel like I'm giong to enjoy myself @ the movies
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Tue Mar-09-10 11:23 PM
I haven't had that feeling off a preview since The Hangover
110917, Preciate the anchor
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Fri Apr-16-10 12:49 PM
110918, Loved it!
Posted by stayls, Fri Apr-16-10 01:18 PM
110919, Already?!
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Fri Apr-16-10 01:34 PM
I bet it was even better w/that matinee price
110920, Yup Yup!!
Posted by stayls, Fri Apr-16-10 06:08 PM
110921, Awesome film
Posted by APDaTruth, Fri Apr-16-10 01:38 PM
caught it at 11 about 2hrs long..

and like most things the book was better BUT

this is def one of the top 5 comic book movies

and hit girl is mos def going to be a movie icon.
110922, We have similar tastes so I'm optimistic bout it
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Fri Apr-16-10 02:49 PM
110923, Dude TRUST me, I aint saying its the greatest movie ever
Posted by APDaTruth, Fri Apr-16-10 06:21 PM
but your not gonna want your money back and if your like me you might see it twice!!
110924, The Warehouse scene: what was that score from?
Posted by SoulHonky, Fri Apr-16-10 08:36 PM
That was killing me. I couldn't remember what movie that was from.

A very good movie. Great and almost unsettling mixture of comedy and action. Nic Cage kills it while Snaggletooth Strong and Clark Duke are quickly becoming two of my favorite actors.

The one bad thing about it is that it definitely doesn't feel like 2 hours. It feels longer than that so if you don't like it, it could feel interminable.

Definitely recommend it although if you don't like extremely dark violence (like the GOAT) then you could find it disturbing.
110925, 28 Days Later...song by God Speed You Black Emporer.
Posted by Clark Kent, Fri Apr-16-10 09:45 PM
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110926, Gracias
Posted by SoulHonky, Sat Apr-17-10 12:35 AM
110927, I knew I recognized that song from somewhere
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-18-10 10:19 AM
110928, isn't it 28 weeks later?
Posted by xbenzive, Sun Apr-18-10 11:04 AM

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110929, linkage to the scene love that part!!
Posted by DJ007, Sat Apr-17-10 05:19 PM
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110930, might have been my favorite part of the movie
Posted by bleekgilliam_420, Wed Apr-21-10 10:20 AM
110931, For the youngstas.
Posted by FamisZhackPierre, Fri Apr-16-10 10:14 PM
Judging by the composition of the audience and their damn near unanimous chants of "Kick Ass!" in the theater and continuing into the lobby and the parking lot.

Cinematography was cool, definitely seemed to project the tone/feel of the few issues of the comic that I've read. Mintz-Plasse did his thing as usual...

I get why people dig it, and it was intermittently entertaining, but it lives or dies w/imaginatively choreographed, cartoonishly brutal violence. If that's your thing, and you find lots and lots of violence entertaining and cool, you'll love this flick. If, like me, you enjoy violence as much as the next man, but need a little bit more beneath it/motivating it to keep you engaged, this movie will feel like a promising story that quickly devolves into a series of drawn out fight sequences tied together w/standard super-hero story points.

As far as Hit Girl was concerned, I didn't feel she was all that iconic, impressive, of engaging...but, she was "memorable."

110932, Weird mixture of reality and the absurd
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Apr-16-10 11:31 PM
I liked it, though I can certainly understand and respect the GOAT's position on the young killa...

I just found her presence to be absurdly funny; I mean the first time we see her, she's getting shot at close range by her pops -- Nic Cage was hilarious, btw -- so pretty much anything that happens to her after that initial setup is fair game, even having (a once-again very good) Mark Strong sell getting his ass beat by her and beating her down...

I also like the fact that Christopher Mintz-Plasse continues to take decent roles after McLovin'... he was okay here...

The lead was okay but I thought he was most effective during his early scenes when we saw his life up to the point he became Kick-Ass... I did love the fact that he continuously got his ass kicked, though I generally cared less and less about him as the movie went on, especially after he started kicking it with ol' girl who thought he was gay... and I really rolled my eyes after he revealed himself to be Kick Ass and she invited him to spend the night #modeonefail

Overall, I enjoyed myself, but I just wish the whole movie didn't look so... cheap... I get that part of the aesthetic (calm down) was a little dirty, but fuck, I kept being taken out of the movie by how cheap the set design and cinematography looked... or maybe it was a dim projector, I dunno... just thought Matthew Vaughn would have gone for a cleaner look, considering his previous films...

Nonetheless, the five kids who sat in front of me for the showing (I'm guessing their average age was 17) loved just about every second of the movie... the girl directly in front of me must have thought she was at Coachella watching Street Sweeper Social Club or something, pumping her fists wildly after every Hit Girl action scene... it certainly is a movie for the youngstaz...

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110933, Just got back from seeing it and I enjoyed it
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sat Apr-17-10 12:23 AM
As usual I laughed at somethings that weren't meant to be funny and made an inappropriate joke about Kick-Ass asking an Asian restaurant where a cat was, lol.
110934, I think that was intentional.
Posted by SoulHonky, Sat Apr-17-10 12:34 AM
I noticed that as well.

Also, I thought of the post on here about Kick Ass being racist and I thought, "Oh god, they better not go there."
110935, Oh, did someone say racism?
Posted by FamisZhackPierre, Sat Apr-17-10 07:46 AM
I remember that post as well, and someone mentioned that Millar himself acknowledged that the film was kind of a right-wing fantasy of sorts.

I didn't see "right-wing fantasy" as much as I saw "young white teengager somewhat lacking in social skills living in an inner-city environment fantasy." This is speculation, but I think it's probably safe to say that an individual fitting this description would view black men as adversarial/scary, basically as enemies. So, I wasn't terribly surprised or bothered that for the entire first act, every brother fell into the oh so comfortable role of drug dealer, common criminal, woman beater, and oh yeah, manservant.

I think this somewhat narrow portrayal of men of color fit within the world of this movie--who else's asses would a young, put upon upstart hero kick but thuggish black dudes and eventually progress to thuggish Italians when as he upped his skill set? Junk bond hustlers on Wall Street, philandering politicians? HMO scammers?

And hey, in case anyone did get a little irritated w/the one note representation of black folks, Marcus came in to break the pattern(I think this was the brother from Sucker Free City).

But then again, having a token black on stand-by as a pre-emptive alibi against 'cism is Racist Conservatism 101(cue ominous documentary-type score music here).
110936, Besides "How To Train Your Dragon" this is one the best flicks of 2010
Posted by bwood, Sat Apr-17-10 08:40 AM
Seriously this movie was a blast! This and HTTYD are tied for Best Movie of 2010 out right now with Shutter Island coming in at #2.
Gotta say Nic Cage and the little girl kilt this movie!
110937, Aww Child
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sat Apr-17-10 10:57 AM
110938, LOL at child^^^^ dis nigga LOL
Posted by bwood, Sun Apr-18-10 09:21 AM
What would you say was the best of 2010 so far cause besides those 3 films everything else has been shit.
110939, I haven't seen HTTYD or Shutter Island
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sun Apr-18-10 11:22 AM
For the 1st time since I was a child, Shutter Island kinda has me shook. That shit looks SO crazy!
110940, Shutter Island bugged out homes...especially the music
Posted by bwood, Sun Apr-18-10 09:09 PM
with that Leo put his foot into that lead role.
110941, I enjoyed it
Posted by universally_speaking, Sat Apr-17-10 11:22 AM
never was interested in checking out the comic when it was coming out, although i am a big fan of MM.

the movie was pretty good. better than what i expected.

hit girl killed it. cage in the warehouse was great too.

i dunno about fogell tho.
110942, Cage in the wearhouse was RAW
Posted by APDaTruth, Sat Apr-17-10 11:30 AM
that scene with the 28 weeks later music.....
110943, *throws grenade thru the door*
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sat Apr-17-10 05:46 PM
110944, If you didn't like this movie, that's on you
Posted by celery77, Sat Apr-17-10 01:53 PM
most fun I've had at the movies in a loooooooong time. everything comes off great. I might have actually enjoyed it more than the comic. Might see again, the action sequences were just the coolest bits I've seen in a loooong time. the style was just so right on.
110945, best movie I've seen this year thus far....
Posted by da_illest_one, Sat Apr-17-10 07:02 PM
hands down...
110946, I enjoyed it
Posted by Coatesvillain, Sat Apr-17-10 07:21 PM
But it was a long as hell two hours in this movie. I don't think it had to be that long, but that's not to say I didn't enjoy the hell out of it.

There were key switches from the comic and they worked really well. The changes worked so well that I think both are equal. I can see why they made Nic Cage really be a cop in this one, because the made up story in the comic book is heart wrenching and would be very depressing on the big screen.
110947, I had a smile on my face for 2 hours
Posted by Fisticuffs, Sat Apr-17-10 07:46 PM
loved this movie.

cage and hit girl were perfect. i loved how they were stone cold killers and kick ass was just in over his head.

hit girl:
http://www.themodernwarfare2.com/images/mw2/weapons/mw2-tactical-knife.jpg


110948, YO! This shit here...dead fuckin on.
Posted by Darryl_Licke, Sun May-02-10 05:10 PM
>hit girl:
>http://www.themodernwarfare2.com/images/mw2/weapons/mw2-tactical-knife.jpg

I mean you gotta KNOW this shit was used in her upbringing. She was straight surgical. The use of that view during that scene was amazing.
110949, Hit Girl is the SHIT!!!
Posted by Voodoochilde, Sat Apr-17-10 09:14 PM
Hit Girl stole the show for me. no doubt about it. That girl is a star. She played the hell outta that role.

The movie was a blast and had the crowd cheering and laughing and some folks even cringing (in a good way) too.

Cage was actually perfect for this particular role and i loved his approach to it.

way fun and i'm gonna go see it again...
110950, RE: Kick-Ass (Vaughn, 2010)
Posted by Shawn Maxam, Sat Apr-17-10 10:50 PM
I liked/enjoyed it. It had it's flaws but overall a fun movie experience.

Wonder what it will be like after multiple viewings?

the relationship between hit girl and big daddy was great and executed very well.
110951, good movie, not outstanding. Hit Girl sequels: I'M IN!
Posted by SankofaII, Sat Apr-17-10 11:30 PM
she was the BEST thing about the movie (and the comics)....

really.
110952, I don't know how I feel about this movie
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-18-10 10:33 AM
I enjoyed it. But at the same time I agreed with Ebert.

At first I thought it was trying to say, if you try to be a superhero, you are disillusioned, immature or outright insane, and you will probably end up catching a critical ass whooping.

But then the superheroes actually are superheroes, and not only that but they kill without remorse. The main character gets the girl, has a few action hero lines, and (most of) the heroes are okay at the end despite getting the kind of hurt that would send people into the emergency room.

On top of the fact that Hit Girl wasn't beating up the bad guys, she was slicing the fuck out of them and shooting to kill.

I know comic books have evolved since I was reading them regularly, but these 'superheroes' were all like The Punisher rather than Spiderman, and The Punisher always had that morally ambiguous tone to it.

I was okay with the violence in The Watchmen, cause it worked for the world that they created. Kick-Ass was both set in a comic book world AND a world that acknowledges that trying to be a superhero is silly.

At the end of the day, I enjoyed it. But especially in these 'Virginia Tech' times, I also kind of had a problem with it.
110953, wtf?
Posted by Fisticuffs, Sun Apr-18-10 10:54 AM
>At the end of the day, I enjoyed it. But especially in these
>'Virginia Tech' times, I also kind of had a problem with it.

do you have this same problem w/every violent movie?

kick ass is basically an action comedy. it's not a "message" movie.
110954, not asking you to agree
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-18-10 11:16 AM
but you could at least read it all before snapping back in response.

For a movie like this that seemed pretty obviously to be targeted at kids, and with such a campy, comic book tone, I had a slight problem with an 11-year old mercilessly shooting and slicing up the 'villains'.

A bloody superhero movie would've been okay. A campy 'superhero movie in the real world' movie would've been okay. This movie tries to do both, and especially for these times I thought it wasn't okay.
110955, Rated R =/= "obviously marketed towards kids."
Posted by DawgEatah, Mon Apr-26-10 11:13 AM

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110956, RE: I don't know how I feel about this movie
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sun Apr-18-10 11:32 AM
>I enjoyed it. But at the same time I agreed with Ebert.
>
>At first I thought it was trying to say, if you try to be a
>superhero, you are disillusioned, immature or outright insane,
>and you will probably end up catching a critical ass whooping.
>
>
>But then the superheroes actually are superheroes, and not
>only that but they kill without remorse. The main character
>gets the girl, has a few action hero lines, and (most of) the
>heroes are okay at the end despite getting the kind of hurt
>that would send people into the emergency room.
>
>On top of the fact that Hit Girl wasn't beating up the bad
>guys, she was slicing the fuck out of them and shooting to
>kill.

She was also desensitized by her father. You think those little boys in Africa carrying AKs weren't desensitized to do that. From birth that girl wasn't raised as a little girl. She was raised as a little adult so that she could carry out the mission her and her father felt they had to do to avenge the death of her mother. Kinda like how kids are desensitized by sex because it's all over t.v. now.


>I know comic books have evolved since I was reading them
>regularly, but these 'superheroes' were all like The Punisher
>rather than Spiderman, and The Punisher always had that
>morally ambiguous tone to it.

You must not have been reading Spider-Man Noir or The Dark Avengers, all that's been going on IS killing.

>I was okay with the violence in The Watchmen, cause it worked
>for the world that they created. Kick-Ass was both set in a
>comic book world AND a world that acknowledges that trying to
>be a superhero is silly.

The difference of Watchmen was that those guys had super-powers so it was set in a fantasy world. Yes, the heroes involved acted like real adults but they were still in a fantasy world. Kick-Ass set in a real-life situation. And if ANYONE were to walk outside in a green and yellow outfit and do that,everyone would say it's silly, because it is. It just so happened that there were more skilled people out there helping him.

>At the end of the day, I enjoyed it. But especially in these
>'Virginia Tech' times, I also kind of had a problem with it.

Virginia Tech hasn't changed anything because before VT there was Columbine High School and PLENTY of movies with more gratuitous violence than this have been released since then.
110957, Yeah, but desensitization as humorous/cool?
Posted by FamisZhackPierre, Sun Apr-18-10 12:08 PM
>She was also desensitized by her father. You think those little boys in Africa carrying AKs weren't desensitized to do that. From birth that girl wasn't raised as a little girl. She was raised as a little adult so that she could carry out the mission her and her father felt they had to do to avenge the death of her mother. Kinda like how kids are desensitized by sex because it's all over t.v. now.

This is true, but it felt to me that even her "desensitization" was played for laughs/campiness/coolness.

I can't imagine a film portraying children being trained to be part of a Manboy army in Africa as being cool/funny.

So, you have this young child being trained to be a ruthless killer, a slightly unorthodox child-rearing method to say the least, and it's portrayed in the movie as funny and cool. A local reviewer here said that the movie made him feel old b/c no matter how much he resisted, seeing a little girl curse and kill w/abandon just made him feel uncomfortable. He said the movie was too cartoonish to completely take seriously, and too bloody to be fun.

I think this might be what Bigworm was alluding to, the movie combines campiness and violence in a way that feels odd, and maybe even disturbing. A large part of why the violence in this flick is so "kewl," is b/c it's being perpetrated by a child, and that shit is more than a little strange.

But as you indicated, people are extremely desenstized, especially kids, and that's why I think kids/younger people are loving this film so much. It isn't that Hit Girl hacked up a room full of people unnecessarily, it's that she looked so cool, and had so many clever quips in the process.
110958, that's exactly what I meant, thank you
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-18-10 12:13 PM
110959, This is my chief problem with it.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Apr-23-10 12:40 PM
>> He said the
>movie was too cartoonish to completely take seriously, and too
>bloody to be fun.

Now, I had fun in the bloody parts... but I kept checking back in with the film after the fun fight scene ended and thinking, "This shouldn't be this much fun if the film was sticking to its guns."
110960, RE: I don't know how I feel about this movie
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-18-10 12:12 PM
>She was also desensitized by her father. You think those
>little boys in Africa carrying AKs weren't desensitized to do
>that. From birth that girl wasn't raised as a little girl. She
>was raised as a little adult so that she could carry out the
>mission her and her father felt they had to do to avenge the
>death of her mother. Kinda like how kids are desensitized by
>sex because it's all over t.v. now.
>
Yes and if they had focused more about how mentally unstable was, I think it would have been better. But it played out more to make her out to be a bad-ass.

>You must not have been reading Spider-Man Noir or The Dark
>Avengers, all that's been going on IS killing.
>
Like I said, it's been a while since I've regularly read comics.

>The difference of Watchmen was that those guys had
>super-powers so it was set in a fantasy world. Yes, the heroes
>involved acted like real adults but they were still in a
>fantasy world. Kick-Ass set in a real-life situation. And if
>ANYONE were to walk outside in a green and yellow outfit and
>do that,everyone would say it's silly, because it is. It just
>so happened that there were more skilled people out there
>helping him.
>
I'd agree, it's just the action scenes were not done as set in a 'real world' situation. They were all over the type, involving heroes that catch a serious beat down but are somehow still okay.

>Virginia Tech hasn't changed anything because before VT there
>was Columbine High School and PLENTY of movies with more
>gratuitous violence than this have been released since then.

I'm not talking about gratuitous violence in movies. I have NO problem with that. I'm talking about a movie that tries to combine bloody comic book violence with young 'real' characters and supposedly set in a 'real life' setting. And with all the murda the good guys are still seen as good guys and not psychos. If it had been a darker movie where the good guys are seen as just as screwed up as the bad guys, I would have had NO problem with it. That's why I compared it to the Watchmen, because I feel that it successfully did just that.
110961, I just read Ebert's review...
Posted by FamisZhackPierre, Sun Apr-18-10 12:34 PM
after you mentioned it in your post.

I don't always, perhaps even rarely, agree w/his reviews, but I respect his love of movies and in this case, I think he's dead on.

This film is w/o question, very, very "cool."

The question is what's being used to achieve this coolness.

I'm all for violence in film, even violence of the stylized/cool sort, it's an inescapable fact of our existence.

I just find it hard to believe, and I do think this is a generational thing here, that a person, albeit in the midst of a visual assault of epic-cool proportions, doesn't stop and think, "...damn, this little girl is killing people b/c her father brainwashed her to do it, and young people are up in the theater laughing and cheering? That shit is a little weird."

I can see if she was just kicking dudes' asses...that would've been funny. But she was eviscerating muthafuckas left and right.

Then again, if you're one of the people applauding as this kid is gutting people, of course you aren't going to stop and think about what you're applauding.

I think that might also be why I dug Mintz-Plasse as Red Mist more. He showed some degree of humanity when confronted w/the reality of his father's lifestyle--I know that this film isn't meant to be serious, or have a message, but the few seconds it showed of Plasse being horrified at the brutality of his father's plan made him seem more...I dunno, likeable?

I realize that convincingly conveying character's motivations for their actions isn't a strong point of this movie, or any comic-book adaptation for that matter, but I do think Vaughn/Miller/Goldman could've given a little bit more on why Hit Girl never questioned the results/reasons for her actions.




110962, see I thought that was corny
Posted by will_5198, Sun Apr-18-10 01:34 PM
>I think that might also be why I dug Mintz-Plasse as Red Mist
>more. He showed some degree of humanity when confronted w/the
>reality of his father's lifestyle--I know that this film isn't
>meant to be serious, or have a message, but the few seconds it
>showed of Plasse being horrified at the brutality of his
>father's plan made him seem more...I dunno, likeable?

because he just shot a little girl a scene before that.
110963, I guess...
Posted by FamisZhackPierre, Sun Apr-18-10 02:50 PM
He did just put one in Hit Girl's chest, and as horrible as that was, I can still see him being disturbed by his father doing a webcast of torture involving his "friend."

I would consider that to be nuance, some degree of moral ambiguity, nobody, other than Hit Girl, is just 100% killer all of the time.
110964, On second thought...
Posted by FamisZhackPierre, Sun Apr-18-10 03:25 PM
He literally did just put one in a child's chest like an hour or less before expressing empathy, that does seem like a bit of a stretch.

Maybe the problem was the decision to use Mist to set-up Hit Girl's grand re-entry.

Maybe have one of the miscellaneous goons blast Hit Girl, instead.
110965, LOL, you know?
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Apr-23-10 12:39 PM
110966, I think that just a few key changes would've made me love it
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-18-10 04:54 PM
If they'd revealed Hit Girl to be really messed up, instead of just desensitized and brutal.

If they'd shown Kick-ass as really freaked out at the sight of death.

If we saw Red Myst actually cracking as he was in the middle of all this messed up business, so that it makes sense when he thinks he's a super villain at the end.

Oh, and if Kick-ass did NOT get the girl (as in the comic, apparently).

110967, Look at it as sarcasm, or provocation, commentary.
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Sat Apr-24-10 12:27 AM
It's there to make you think.
110968, I'll settle for 'not very good'
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Apr-25-10 11:24 AM
This movie did in fact make me think; however, the main thought was 'how disappointing.'
110969, Why?
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Mon Apr-26-10 08:36 AM
110970, C-
Posted by will_5198, Sun Apr-18-10 01:32 PM
this was like a diet version of Kill Bill: pure popcorn action with a great soundtrack, but the filler was much less interesting.

didn’t like most of the profanity, which turned into a writer’s crutch. most times I felt like they couldn’t think of any witty dialogue, so they just had kids interject fuck over and over for cheap laughs.

Hit Girl was cool (although I can see where people would disagree with her characterization). it felt long. the first half has a much better premise than the standard fare that the second half brought.
110971, Loved it
Posted by Marauder21, Sun Apr-18-10 05:39 PM
Easily the most fun I've had at a movie in a while. And good for Nic Cage.

I think I'm gonna check for the graphic novel, even if it is racist child porn (or whatever that post was about.) How different is it form the film?
110972, Big Daddy's back story is different
Posted by Coatesvillain, Sun Apr-18-10 06:01 PM
And the ending isn't as happy.

Also you see Red Mist in costume first.

The two are different enough that it's easier to appreciate them as completely separate things.
110973, Numbers are in...(swipe)
Posted by xbenzive, Sun Apr-18-10 09:29 PM
Overall it's gross revenue is $37,150,000. Not bad. Is HTTYD that good? should I check it out this weekend?


http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/dragon-kickass-tussle-boxoffice-win-ap

LOS ANGELES - It's another photo finish at the weekend box office, with the No. 1 spot too close to call between the animated adventure "How to Train Your Dragon" and the superhero comedy "Kick-Ass."

Distributor Paramount reported Sunday that DreamWorks Animation's "How to Train Your Dragon" took in $20 million, while "Kick-Ass" distributor Lionsgate reported its movie debuting at $19.75 million.

With just $250,000 separating them, either movie could end up at No. 1 when studios release final weekend numbers Monday.

The previous weekend, 20th Century Fox's comedy "Date Night" led the Warner Bros. action tale "Clash of the Titans" by about the same amount based on Sunday estimates. But "Clash of the Titans" came out on top by $1.4 million when final numbers were reported Monday, with "Date Night" pulling in nearly $2 million less than 20th Century Fox had estimated a day earlier.

"I've never seen two weeks in a row like this where the top movies could easily flip-flop," said Paul Dergarabedian, box-office analyst for Hollywood.com.

Weekend projections include fairly hard figures for Friday and Saturday, but studios have to estimate how much a movie will take in on Sunday. Final figures Monday can rise or fall once precise revenues for Sunday are calculated.

Executives for both DreamWorks Animation and Lionsgate said they were tracking their own movies ahead of the competition.

"Our information is indicating that we are at No. 1," said Anne Globe, head of marketing for DreamWorks Animation, whose "How to Train Your Dragon" debuted in first place in late March and slipped to No. 3 the next two weekends before climbing the chart again.

Lionsgate head of distribution David Spitz said he had tracked "Kick-Ass" in first place over "How to Train Your Dragon."

"I don't see them grossing $20 million, but I've been wrong before. I can promise you 24 hours from now, we will know who's right and who's wrong," Spitz said. "It would have been neat to say, 'Hey, we're the clear-cut No. 1.'"

Other studios were divided on which film led, some giving the weekend to "How to Train Your Dragon," others to "Kick-Ass."

Finishing first at the box office is a valuable marketing tool, with the winning studio able to declare its movie No. 1 in advertisements through the following weekend.

"Kick-Ass" features Aaron Johnson as a teen comic-book geek who becomes a self-proclaimed superhero, eventually teaming up with a vigilante dad ( Nicolas Cage ) and his 11-year-old daughter (Chloe Grace Moretz).

The movie had a solid though unremarkable debut, yet box-office analysts expected "Kick-Ass" to open with bigger numbers. It received generally good reviews, but the R-rated movie's hardcore violence and language — much of it revolving around Moretz's character — was a drawback for some viewers.

While box-office photo finishes are unusual, "How to Train Your Dragon" also was a rarity as a holdover competing for the No. 1 spot. The movie about a Viking teen and his dragon pal has held on strongly week after week as the main family flick at theaters, raising its total to $158.6 million.

The No. 3 spot also was close, with "Date Night" at $17.3 million and Sony's comedy "Death at a Funeral" debuting just behind at $17 million.

"Date Night," starring Steve Carell and Tina Fey , raised its 10-day total to $49.2 million. "Death at a Funeral" features Chris Rock , Martin Lawrence and Tracy Morgan in a romp about an extended family gathering to bury its patriarch.

Even closer was the No. 8 spot, with just $5,000 separating the estimates for MGM's "Hot Tub Time Machine" ($3.545 million) and Disney's "Alice in Wonderland " ($3.54 million).

In narrower release, Roadside Attractions' satire "The Joneses" debuted with $554,489 in 193 theaters, for a weak average of $2,873 a cinema. That compared with an average of $6,444 in 3,065 theaters for "Kick-Ass."

"The Joneses" stars David Duchovny and Demi Moore as heads of a fake family sent out to hawk merchandise to their new neighbors in an upscale community.
110974, A BORING, UNFUNNY MESS!
Posted by ChazRaps, Mon Apr-19-10 03:33 AM
And I say this as somebody who loves to turn his brain off for mindless violence and swearing. I went in with low expectations and left without even those being met. Cast was great, but everything else failed to an incredible degree.

My full review - http://popularopinions.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/kicka/
110975, I had no expectations going in to this film and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Posted by DeadMike, Mon Apr-19-10 10:01 AM
Haven't read the comics and I didn't even really see any of the trailers but I liked it a lot. I went to the movies with some friends and was kinda hoping to see Hot Tub Time Machine but was out voted but I'm glad I was.

I get that the violence and language is over the top and I first I was like "hmmmm I dunno" but then stopped worrying about it and enjoyed the flick for what it was.
110976, I just wish the Hit Girl redband trailer hand't shown EVERYTHING
Posted by Hitokiri, Mon Apr-19-10 10:13 AM
she was gonna do.
That trailer was instrumental in getting me into the theater, but it showed 90% of her action.
110977, Best movie I've seen like this in a long time
Posted by stylez dainty, Mon Apr-19-10 10:18 AM
As far as violent action flicks go.

Morals aside, I just really dug the pacing and plotting. It was one of the few movies like this where I was into the final showdown. Just lots of little touches that I really appreciated.
110978, 3 out of 4 arbitrary rating symbols
Posted by Melanism, Mon Apr-19-10 12:31 PM
First of all, why couldn’t Kevin Smith leave “Cop Out” with its original title of “A Couple of Dicks” if Vaughn got away with titling a movie “Kick-Ass.”

The movie was entertaining if you don’t mind extreme violence perpetuated by and on an 11 year old girl. While it was violent, 1) I’ve seen worse and b) it was actually less violent than the comic it was based on my Mark Millar and John Romita Jr. The only part that was a little hard to watch was when Frank D’Amico (Mark Strong) almost beats Hit Girl (Chloë Grace Moretz) to death in a violent fist-fight) .

The funny thing is the movie in the end subverted the concept of the book. The point of the book was to dramatize what would happen if real people decided to take to the streets in costume and how violently that would probably turn out for those real people. In the beginning, the movie adheres closely to the source material but by the time we get to the final showdown, things got a little too superhero-ey for me. It was still entertaining but I felt like something edgy became Hollywood. I was also bugged by the change of Katie’s reaction to finding out Dave wasn’t gay. .

On the brighter note, Chloë Grace Moretz was great and stole the movie whenever she was on the screen. I feel slightly better about the ill-advised Let The Right One In remake, Let Me In with her playing the lead girl.
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110979, agreed on all this...
Posted by SankofaII, Mon Apr-19-10 01:26 PM
>First of all, why couldn’t Kevin Smith leave “Cop Out” with
>its original title of “A Couple of Dicks” if Vaughn got away
>with titling a movie “Kick-Ass.”

maybe the studio that distributed COP OUT but the kibbosh on the original title? Lionsgate is becoming know for "shock" and "awe"...they probably managed to score a happy medium with the MPAA regarding the title..

>The movie was entertaining if you don’t mind extreme violence
>perpetuated by and on an 11 year old girl. While it was
>violent, 1) I’ve seen worse and b) it was actually less
>violent than the comic it was based on my Mark Millar and John
>Romita Jr. The only part that was a little hard to watch was
> when Frank D’Amico (Mark Strong) almost beats
>Hit Girl (Chloë Grace Moretz) to death in a violent
>fist-fight) .

that was hard to watch...and this was the scene that EVERYONE was laughing the hardest at...it was like folk thought a grown man stomping the hell out of a little girl was funny...those few scenes were quite disturbing to me...

>The funny thing is the movie in the end subverted the concept
>of the book. The point of the book was to dramatize what
>would happen if real people decided to take to the streets in
>costume and how violently that would probably turn out for
>those real people. In the beginning, the movie adheres
>closely to the source material but by the time we get to the
>final showdown, things got a little too superhero-ey for me.
>It was still entertaining but I felt like something edgy
>became Hollywood. I was also bugged by the change of >START] Katie’s reaction to finding out Dave wasn’t gay.
>.

yup it did...i need to go back and re-read the comics but i am a little salty vaughn and goodman changed the concept of KICK ASS...yea, and i thought katie was way more angry about it. then again, its hollywood...you gotta through in the obligatory teen sex bangout shot to please the younger fanboys, right?

>On the brighter note, Chloë Grace Moretz was great and stole
>the movie whenever she was on the screen. I feel slightly
>better about the ill-advised Let The Right One In remake, Let
>Me In with her playing the lead girl.


well, if they KEEP the original "spoiler" about the character intact, then it should be fine...it they TOTALLY hollywood-ize it (and take it out) then it will suck....im still on the fence since the team being the american remake are ALSO the folks who put out that bullshit CLOVERFIELD too....

i think im more annoyed about the David Fincher remake of THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO since Kristen Stewart (beast faced Bella from the twilight movies) is apparently the ONLY choice for the lead role..UGH
110980, Stewart was good in Adventureland.
Posted by will_5198, Mon Apr-19-10 03:44 PM
110981, SPOILERS below...
Posted by Af-1, Tue Apr-20-10 04:46 AM
I think you're spot on with what you're saying - I really loved the movie, but I do find it irritating that the film's summary is about the reality of what would happen with random people trying to be super heroes, because all I think about when I read that is KA with a jet pack shooting dudes, then firing a rocket launcher at Strong.

At the end of the movie, what I got from it as the moral was 'with a strong heart you can accomplish anything', but surely that's not the reality of someone off the streets becoming a super hero. I'd be interested in reading the book as you say it's considerably different.

For me, I thought the most disturbing scene was when KA and Cage are tied to the chairs. Damn near had me looking away from the screen at times.

Definitely want to add my name to the hat of Hit Girl supporters - I really thought she was great!
110982, one was under the "mainstream" banner, the other under an "indie"
Posted by magilla vanilla, Wed Apr-21-10 08:43 AM
Cop Out was a straight-up Fox picture, while Kick-Ass was distributed under the Lions Gate banner. Couple that with Kev getting burned trying to market Zack and Miri Make a Porno (which was a pretty decent flick), and there's your answer.
110983, sex/genitalia is still taboo apparently.
Posted by FortifiedLive, Mon Apr-26-10 10:08 PM
much like Zack and Miri was billed as "...Make a Porno" on and off.
110984, you know what's ironic...
Posted by BigWorm, Mon Apr-26-10 10:11 PM
>The movie was entertaining if you don’t mind extreme violence
>perpetuated by and on an 11 year old girl. While it was
>violent, 1) I’ve seen worse and b) it was actually less
>violent than the comic it was based on my Mark Millar and John
>Romita Jr. The only part that was a little hard to watch was
> when Frank D’Amico (Mark Strong) almost beats
>Hit Girl (Chloë Grace Moretz) to death in a violent
>fist-fight) .

I didn't have a problem with the 11-year old getting the shit beat out of her. She had it a'coming.

I had a problem with her being mostly okay right afterward.

That easily sums up my problem with the whole second half of the movie.
110985, its alright, worth checking out
Posted by jambone, Mon Apr-19-10 03:04 PM
i'd give it a B.

worth checking out for some good laughs. it had its flaws

but overall, a solid movie.

Nic Cage is cool as ever. Mark Strong is that dude.

the young girl was pretty good.

I died laughing when my man with the bazooka did his tony montana "say hello to my little friend!" impression.

great music score and soundtrack,too.
110986, I liked it. Was not nearly as bloody as the comic....
Posted by KnowOne, Tue Apr-20-10 08:59 AM
Hit Girl OWNED this movie. Pretty good over all. There were a few changes from the comic I didnt like & others that I loved. Think I want to see it again.
110987, I'm kind of a Millar hater, but I dug this flick
Posted by tappenzee, Tue Apr-20-10 01:48 PM
I haven't read the comic, but if its anything like his other work, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the movie's gotta be way better than something he made up.

This movie was fun as hell. Just a wacky fucking movie overall, but really enjoyable to watch, despite (because of?) the complete lack of humanity in it.
110988, Instead of seeing this last night...
Posted by jigga, Tue Apr-20-10 02:40 PM
http://splicd.com/rI9hjE2IZAQ/48/64

Ok it wasn't that bad but I left wishing Vaughn would've stuck with Thor insteada directing this. That being said he's still gotta decent track record so far & one to keep an eye on. He's gotten good to great performances from virtually unknowns in all 3 flicks but this one (like Stardust) ran a little long towards the end. His movies always start out great but never finish strong. Never really cared about Kick Ass since Hit Girl stole the show. She should've been the primary focus.
110989, Oh, he did Stardust?
Posted by Invisiblist, Tue Apr-20-10 07:01 PM
Yeah, that shit had like two false endings.
110990, Decent... but fails to hit the home run.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Apr-22-10 07:16 PM
I felt very strange cheering during the Hit Girl scenes and then being disturbed when I thought about the brainwashing Big Daddy did. It was fun in spots... but really it was only truly fun for me in the scenes that were far more standard fare. And if that's the case, what kind of satire is this?

110991, Very interesting movie... Deep. Real. Made me think.
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Sat Apr-24-10 12:43 AM
110992, awesome ass movie
Posted by lfresh, Sun Apr-25-10 10:10 AM
i didn't know what i was going to see
i just *shrugged* and went
and omg
great surprise
really disturbing
i felt like there were almost two movies being combined
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110993, i dug it. not mind blowing, but fun.
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110994, I thought it was okay.
Posted by PantherX20, Mon Apr-26-10 07:43 PM
I prefer the comic (someone linked it in general and i read it and found the other 2 parts the night before i watched it)
110995, i enjoyed it. lost steam in the end, but i'd watch it again.
Posted by FortifiedLive, Mon Apr-26-10 10:03 PM
oh, and shame on the couple who brought their ~5 year-old kid and ended up walking out, looking disgusted, about 5 minutes in after brief nudity and cursing. really? it's Rated R and it states why for EVERY reason now in the ratings. it's called Kick-Ass for God's sake. it was the 10 pm showing btw.
110996, .
Posted by magilla vanilla, Thu May-06-10 04:11 PM
.
110997, some of yall niggas kill me w/ this sensitivity
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu May-06-10 06:27 PM
shit was awesome and ass was kicked. be happy
110998, lol basically.
Posted by Cold Truth, Thu May-06-10 06:47 PM
hit girl was unlike any hero i've ever seen.
110999, LOL @ you missing the point of the film.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu May-06-10 10:57 PM
People's gripes with the film aren't about the ass that was kicked. I think pretty much everyone would agree the action was well-staged. It's more about what the film was trying to do and whether people thought it worked or not. Many thought it didn't completely work.
111000, I went in thinking the point of the film was to make me laugh
Posted by Oak27, Fri May-07-10 01:55 PM
I laughed my ass off.

Point succeeded.
111001, i enjoyed it for what it was
Posted by Calico, Sat May-15-10 01:51 PM
...the books didn't really have some great point to them so i don't know why people thought the movie would be different....

....i had NO problem with Hit Girl killin people cause it, A MOVIE, a work of pure fiction/fantasy, with doses of reality thrown in here and there...yeah, the point is "what would happen if", but in both the movie and the book they veer way offa that track by the time Hit Girl even shows up.....

...the katie switch up irked me, but the book version was overkill for me anyway

...the action was great, the comedy was good...i enjoyed it, and thought most of the changes were good changes, altho i liked the other BD backstory better...it's just funnier...

people asking "what's the message in this movie?" are hillarious tho....
111002, I would've loved for it to remain closer to reality...
Posted by Mole, Tue Jun-01-10 06:16 PM
... By the time a guy flies through the city wearing a jet pack, the movie becomes basically just another superhero flick with more blood and a filthier mouth. But it was undeniably fun. And between this and "Bad Lieutenant," I'm digging the Nic Cage renaissance.
111003, HD mkv
Posted by ne_atl, Sat Jul-24-10 08:42 PM
is available. My 1st time seeing this. I like
111004, *thumbs down*
Posted by Bruce Belafonte, Sun Jul-25-10 02:30 AM
111005, I had this movie pegged completely wrong
Posted by OldPro, Wed Jul-28-10 01:19 PM
From the trailers I thought it was some mess like Mystery Men lol

Enjoyed the hell out of this flick
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111006, Late pass...but I fucking loved it.
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Sep-04-10 06:24 PM
It has it's flaws, but it was fun and very well directed.
111007, Anyone picking up the DVD?
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sat Sep-04-10 07:44 PM
111008, shit sucked.
Posted by Nopayne, Sat Sep-04-10 10:29 PM