907, you need to respond to Posted by osoclasi, Wed May-26-04 06:44 AM
>john 10:30 in english says: "I and the Father are one" >John.10:30 (egw kai o pathr en esmen) > >"I and the Father are one (hen)" > >what does this one mean? > >in Greek, `heis' means `one' numerically and `hen' means >`one' in unity or essence > >Here the word used by John is `hen' and not `heis'. the New >American Standard Bible (NASB) reads; one - (Lit.neuter) a >unity, or, one essence. > >if 'hen' implies 'co-equal' in status, then why does Jesus >say: > >Jesus said: "And the glory which You have given me, I have >given to them (disciples); that they may be One (en) , just >as we are One (en) ." John 17:22 > >kagw thn doxan hn dedwkaV moi dedwka autoiV, ina wsin en >kaqwV hmeiV en > >If one was to consider/regard/believe the Father and Jesus >Christ to be "one" meaning "co-equal" in status on the basis >of John 10:30, then that person should also be prepared to >consider/regard/believe "them" - the disciples of Jesus, to >be "co-equal" in status with the Father and Jesus ("just as >we are one") in John 17:22. > >are the disciples now part of that oneness too? > >once again, what implications does "I go to the Father; for >the Father is greater than I" (John 14:28) have in this >light? This verse refutes the claim by any one for Jesus >being "co-equal" in status with his Father.
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